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wildman1964
14th May 2010, 20:30
Questions for you RAF guys,

Is there a retention bonus in place for Flt Lt aircrew in RAF? I believe there is the 100k for 5 years for SqnLdr at 38/16, but not sure about other ranks.

I'm looking to return back across the pond if benefits OK.

Cheers

getsometimein
14th May 2010, 21:04
Hahahahaaa..haa.haa....

We've kazillions on F/L's... its S/L's we need apparently.. although there seems to be a load of them around now too since the airlines doesn't want them!

The only retensions for aircrew is the NCA 3-12 year thingy, and the S/L pilot 100k.

Lockstock
14th May 2010, 21:12
What does 'returning back across the pond' have to do with it?

If you are a serving Flt Lt then you'll get a retention bonus whatever country you are in, if you qualify. If you are rejoining then you won't get it as your IRD won't be at the 38/16 point.

Besides the RAF is very selective now and looks for people with loyalty and long-term commitment, not those who want to get their grubby hands on a few quid.

MATELO
14th May 2010, 23:12
I suspect the retention bonus may be one of the first things cut in the "general forces" cutback scheme to get the £36b back.

If not, then they can surely put the "social" buses back on for the troops, which, if you listen to them is like cutting their testes off with a cold spoon.

wildman1964
15th May 2010, 05:30
I've never known the RAF to be selective!

Winch-control
15th May 2010, 06:47
Is there a retention bonus in place for Flt Lt aircrew in RAF?
Yep stay or be unemployed! :ok:

PTT
15th May 2010, 07:29
If you've been offered PA and commit to a further 5 years (i.e. until 43) and IPP is before 1 Apr 2013 then there's 80k (gross). If you get promoted between now and then you stay PA but get the 100k.

Op_Twenty
15th May 2010, 09:03
Yep stay or be unemployed!

Love that... (maybe we should all be a little less greedy now that the world is about to end!)

BROADSWORDCALLING
15th May 2010, 15:14
To answer your question dear chap, yes there is an FRI available to Flt Lt's. I believe it comes with the same return of service as the Sqn Ldr FRI only it is a slightly lesser amount.

Also, ref the comment about staying in or being unemployed, it all depends on your future exit date. I have it on good authority that these FRI's will be around for some time, my appointer was making the point that I could be sitting pretty on this offer and I have 3 years left to serve. Point being, I think the RAF is fat with people now, but trust me, I think the higher echelons are shi@@ting themselves as the private sector WILL pick up and many will leave in the near future.

Just an opinion.

minigundiplomat
15th May 2010, 16:50
but trust me, I think the higher echelons are shi@@ting themselves as the private sector WILL pick up and many will leave in the near future.




A lot of truth in that statement. Cuts are coming, and they are going to be eye watering on that at least, everyone seems to agree.

However, despite the cuts, there are pinchpoint trades and specialisations that hold our loose capabilities together at the moment. Many of these cannot be replaced by shuffling those left after the cuts around.

Unfortunately it is these pinchpoints who have taken the hammering over recent years and are likely to take off when the civil sector improves.

Op_Twenty
15th May 2010, 18:26
Do you guys think the civil sector will pick up? I saw an interesting film 'Collapse', it's worth a look - the guy, Michael Ruppert, predicted the world economic downturn and he reckons that 'the age of austerity' is fast approaching for everybody, not just the military. When the Conservatives got in last time, they opened the books and realised that the money had all been spent by Labour, I think we'll find this will happen again this time. Darwin said:

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.”

Our military is going to be different to how it was and so is the civil sector. It doesn't make it bad, it just makes it different. I don't believe that the airlines will pick up, I'm not doing my ATPL - I'm buying seeds and growing my own food, buying shotguns and rabbit traps! (Saturday night, wife away - 3 beers down...)

Runaway Gun
15th May 2010, 19:10
Your wife's away so you are drinking beer and chasing rabbits? Is there no sheep up North?

L J R
15th May 2010, 21:41
A Reality check for the world's situation indeed:


Your wife's away so you are drinking beer


It is the 'basics' that one must enjoy.

minigundiplomat
15th May 2010, 23:30
When the Conservatives got in last time, they opened the books and realised that the money had all been spent by Labour, I think we'll find this will happen again this time.

Very true. The economy was then turned around and the boom of the 80's followed. When did Virgin start up? only a few years after the Conservatives opened the books.

The sh1t sandwich hasn't got much bread around it at the moment, agreed. But sitting around telling ourselves the worlds about to end won't do much good. Hope you're not in a job which involves inspiring others.

Op_Twenty
16th May 2010, 11:16
"I will not allow house prices to get out of control and put at risk the sustainability of the recovery."
Gordon Brown's 1997 Budget Statement

"Under this Government, Britain will not return to the boom and bust of the past."
Pre-Budget Report, 9th November 1999

There's being inspirational and then there's being realistic, I'd rather be the latter everytime - it means we can hopefully see problems early and attempt to deal with them without burying our heads in the sand. Why would you feel the need to not be open with people about the problems we all face? Maybe if we all put our hands over our eyes global warming might go away?

minigundiplomat
16th May 2010, 18:25
"I will not allow house prices to get out of control and put at risk the sustainability of the recovery."
Gordon Brown's 1997 Budget Statement

"Under this Government, Britain will not return to the boom and bust of the past."
Pre-Budget Report, 9th November 1999

Yep - Cyclops has a head full of cheese, edam I suspect, but I can't see a link between your two posts.