Aer Lingus Engine Problem

[Thunderbirdsix]

From RTE News Dublin

Aer Lingus flight experiences engine problem

Friday, 14 May 2010 09:31

Aer Lingus has confirmed that a flight which left Orlando at 6.25pm local time yesterday destined for Dublin developed engine problems shortly after take-off.
The plane returned to Orlando and landed safely. There were no injuries.
Passengers were accommodated in a hotel overnight.


Engineers are evaluating the engine to try and identify the source of the problem.
Aer Lingus says there is nothing to suggest any connection with volcanic ash.
If the aircraft is serviceable by 6.25pm local time this evening, it will be used to bring the passengers to Ireland.
If it is not serviceable, Aer Lingus will use a different aircraft.

[irish330]

Engine Failure at 300ft.

[gtro]

does anyone knows which AC type?

[irish330]

Airbus A330-200. EI-LAX

[Thunderbirdsix]

They use Airbus A330 on their long haul routes

[suasdaguna]

Holy Cats!

[Just a spotter]

Seems indication of oil loss from #1.

Incident: Aer Lingus A332 at Orlando on May 13th 2010, engine failure (http://avherald.com/h?article=42b77451&opt=0)

JAS

[eireoflot82]

liveatc.net clip for ein 12G
take off clearance comes 7 minutes in.
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/kmco/KMCO-May-13-2010-2230Z.mp3

[Avman]

MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY SHAMROCK 12G ENGINE FAILURE clear as a bell. Controller response: ROGER, ARE YOU DECLARING AN EMERGENCY?

:ugh:

[Bearcat]

Nice Job fellas:ok::ok::ok::ok:.....lots of distractions from the cabin calls I hear as they are securing the engine.

Surely this effects their ETOPs fleet capability?

[JEM60]

Not quite sure why it should affect their ETOPS, or are you saying that no twin engined aircraft should have ETOPS capability.?
As long as it is able to reach land in the event of an engine being shut down within a designated time and distance [can't remember details,] then no problem.
Remember that BA 319's fly the Atlantic every day from London City., via Ireland. A.330 has MUCH longer range than that.

[yellowdog]

Remember that BA 319's fly the Atlantic every day from London City., via Ireland. A.330 has MUCH longer range than that.

That'll be A318's

[Bearcat]

JEM60, where a powerplant fails an operator with 180mins etops can be reduced to say 120mins by the regulatory authorities pending investigation especially by the powerplant manufactuers namely GE here in this case. Its not as happy days as you think.

[Avman]

lots of distractions from the cabin calls I hear as they are securing the engine.

Quite a few distractions from ATC too! Having made a very clear MAYDAY call with all the pertinent initial information the tx pilot ends with "stand by". I would receive this as meaning "let us tidy things up here and we'll get back to you asap with our further intentions". Instead of leaving them to it for a little while the TWR guy asks distracting questions. Brilliantly handled by the crew, but I'm not impressed with the TWR guy. Not his fault I would guess, but probably that of inadequate training. I remember the days when we used to accompany crews on their sim refresher training and see for ourselves how busy things get during such events.

[411A]

ROGER, ARE YOU DECLARING AN EMERGENCY?


One must keep in mind that, in the nation with (by far) the largest concentration of scheduled aircarrier flights, the United States does not (generally) recognise 'mayday' as being anything other than a holiday celebrated in the (former) Soviet Union.

'Pan'?
Most likely the US air traffic controller would think you were referring to a frying pan.

Get used to it, folks, it ain't likely to change anytime soon.

PS: the same for the local altimeter setting (QNH)....it will be in inches of mercury.

When you are as large a country as the United States, you can do as you like.
And, we generally do.:}

[Airclues]

411A

How do you explain 10-1-1 (b) in a document produced by the FAA for US ATC?

Chapter 10. Emergencies (http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/ATpubs/ATC/atc1001.html)

Dave

[forget]

Well? ................................

[411A]

How do you explain 10-1-1 (b) in a document produced by the FAA for US ATC?


I'ts all quite simple.
It is generally ignored at the local tower/tracon level.

IF you want expedited handling in the USA, one needs to say....we are declaring an emergency.

IE: go with the flow if you want assistance.

NB.
I have done so one time only, an engine fire in a DC-3 just after takeoff, long ago.
When the controller hears 'emergency', magic things happen.
Other air traffic is re-routed.
Fire and rescue services roll on command.
And, most important...the air traffic controller clearly understands that you desire urgent assistance.

Mayday?
Pan?
A waste of time in the USA.
Don't like this arrangement?
Fly somewhere else.

If US air carrier pilots have to put up with some of the nonsense served up by the UK air traffic control (as just one example, very late landing clearances at LHR), then UK aircarrier pilots will just have do as they are told....here.

[Lord Lardy]

Mayday?
Pan?
A waste of time in the USA.
Don't like this arrangement?
Fly somewhere else.



So are you advocating the non adherance to your own FAA standard procedures? :ugh:


IE: go with the flow if you want assistance


Go with the flow is not how the majority of us take our responsibilites.

Bizarre to say the least.

[411A]

Bizarre to say the least.

Nevertheless, in the USA, the word 'emergency' will garner far more attention.
It is what it is, like it...or not.:rolleyes:

[Just a spotter]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch ....

Did the issue with AX get resolved? If so, what was it? Did the aircraft take pax back to Ireland? If not, what's her status?

JAS

[JEM60]

BEARCAT.
Thanks for that information. I didn't know that. Cheers. John.:)

[Liffy 1M]

EI-LAX has not been recorded on any of the sbs sites since just after midnight Zulu on 14/5, so I assume it is still at MCO. It apparently landed "heavy" and if it also needs an engine change I assume it could be a few days yet before it would be ready for return to Ireland.

[Liffy 1M]

I've also heard that A330-300 EI-ORD experienced turbulence on the descent into Chicago as EI125 on 11 May, possibly resulting in damage to the spoilers. This aircraft has not been monitored since that date, so it may also be temporarily out of action. Anyone know more?

[EI Premier]

Does anybody have any more details on EI-ORD?

It seems to be out of action at the moment with no movements since that flight on the 11th of May. The return flight was also cancelled that night.

Looking at the logs, they must have hit some pretty heavy turbulence with strong t-storm activity and cumulonimbus build up at the time of the descent and approach. They also did one of two circuits prior to landing, over central Southwestern Michigan and again directly over the lake...

At around 6,000 feet, the airspeed also seems to have breifly dropped as low as 119 KTS, probably indicating a moment of significant turbulence. There were also, however, sharp fluctuations in speed at 20,000 Feet..

EI Premier