Wreckage found, what kind of aircraft?

[skyhawk133]

Hello!

http://img.ihack.se/one/10816lolo.JPG

This is a picture (rotate 90° cw) of a part of a wing that a fishing boat got in their trawl and is lifted on a hook, the catch was in the Baltic sea (brackish water, with low salination) outside the island of Öland (N 56° 44.660', E 17° 09.000' ). What you see is the wing spar. The item marked with a red circle, we think is a part of a wing support.

The hook on the picture is about 12” long. The wing part is about 33’ long. Outside the picture there is an intact leading edge which means that this is a main spar, and that there were no motors on that part of the wing.

Fuel pipes and red/black electrical wires were drawn in the spar.
They could not salvage due to accident risk.

More pics in a zip:
http://www.hamnplan.com/airplane_debris.zip

What can it be? Catalina?

[critter592]

Hello Skyhawk,

I have a fairly good idea what it is from (I doubt it is from a Catalina), but first, a question:
Are there any numbers stamped or engraved anywhere? If so, what are they?

Regards,

Don

[skyhawk133]

Hello!
Aha, interesting! :D

Sorry, but no numbers. Too bad it coldnt be salvaged.

Edit: I will tell the ship-crew to look for any kind of numbers on the parts thats left on the boat. But it may take some days.

Don, what do you think it is from? I´m very curious. If we can recognise what kind of AC then we have some fun job to search the history. :)

Thanks.
Regards / Erik

[skyhawk133]

Can it be a German bomber? The construction reminds of FW Condor.

[Robert Cooper]

Could be from a Fiesler Storch - going by the wing support.

Bob C

[skyhawk133]

Ok. But I think its from a bigger ac, look at the numbers in my first post.

Do you have any drawing on the storchs wing?

[skyhawk133]

Ok, not so intresting case for you. Probably in wrong forum.
But do you have any idea where this kind of Q:s fits? I appeciate if you have some links to share with me. :)


Regards



Not the wrong forum at all. In fact, the most likely forum I know of to solve the mystery but a little more information would be helpful. Give it some time and provide any other details you can.

The Mods

[oscarstorch]

I'm 100% sure this is not a part from A Fieseler Fi-156 Storch, as I own one and I'm currently restoring it.

[Robert Cooper]

OK, that seems to settle that one. Back to the drawing board!:)

Bob C

[skyhawk133]

Yep, but im glad yor are engaged. :)
I think its a fairly large ac from 40-50 something.
Do anyone recognise the contruction method?
Is the marked bar a wing support or can it be a landing gear stud? (JU52)

[Robert Cooper]

Well, you got me intrigued. I can't place that construction yet, but the Ju52 had 4 pairs of duraluminum spars braced with short struts - about 800mm apart where they went through the fuselage. Don't think that is what you have though as I belive the Ju52 spars where circular cross section. However, the undercarriage strut (if that is what it is) fits.

Any more info would be usefull.

Bob C

[skyhawk133]

Ok. :)
FW 200 have a similar mid-section i think, så thats why I thought its a german plane. (not fw200 though, this debri part is much larger with intact leading edge.)

[Vitesse]

If you want struts...How about a Dornier flying boat?

Seriously, this needs some numbers or more bits!

I am fascinated.

[aviate1138]

Surely the FW 200 wing was a lot thicker in section and the tailplane on an FW200 has a different type of section using sheet ally with varying sized cutout holes for adding lightness.

In the wreckage one can see the construction is not like the thread pics.

Google Image Result for http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Fw200C_wreck_Iceland.jpg (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Fw200C_wreck_Iceland.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fw200C_wreck_Iceland.jpg&usg=__ZMuM2GlptXrGeZnU5j9CEm0M_p4=&h=585&w=728&sz=165&hl=en&start=109&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=K5B-ywvcn1TAwM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=141&prev=/images%3Fq%3DFW%2B200%26start%3D105%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26cli ent%3Dsafari%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Den%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1)

[skyhawk133]

Bumpibump... :)

[critter592]

Hello again Erik,

I posted a question on the Key Publishing Aviation Forum, the answers confirm what I originally thought - That your wreckage is of German origin.

However, one suggestion as to what type of aircraft it is from is interesting; a Dornier Do17.

As mentioned, some numbers would help immensely; they will either be stencilled, engraved or stamped on the parts. See here for an example (http://macr.moonfruit.com/#/44-61999-photos-2/4527654033) (last photo).

Don

[skyhawk133]

Hi Don. :)

Ok, German origin, I thought that too.
But Do17 is by far to small.

I am trying to get contact with the fishers.

Regards