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SASless
1st Mar 2010, 15:04
Might not the England revert to the Germans by means of inheritance some day? Do They, as I have heard, celebrate Christmas on the 24th and not on the 25th as do the English common people.

Being no expert on the English Monarchy.....perhaps someone can explain the family tree in simple terms ex-Colonialists can understand re the House of Hanover and all that.

Could some schnitzel chomper wind up with the Crown Jewels one day?

birrddog
1st Mar 2010, 15:31
Careful lads re all this Saxon/Norman talk..... if Tony Draper saw this and realized he was actually 'A European' he would get quite upset.

:8

brickhistory
1st Mar 2010, 16:23
Germans are now involved?

Well, as it's von Argentina, that should help things out.

El Grifo
1st Mar 2010, 17:17
Tony could happily be described, with the complete the affirmation of his close neighbours and countrymen as, " A Scotsman wi his heid kicked in"


Right Drapsey :ok:

On that note Brick,one of my ongoing and oldest projects is the investigation of the transit of Top Nazis to Argentina through our neighbouring island, Fuerteventura.

Google Villa Winter. Trouble is Wikipedia keep editing out and erasing our discoveries for some reason :ugh:

Data-Lynx
1st Mar 2010, 17:45
For Metman/ORAC. The Opening Session of the Special Committee on Decolonization (http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs//2010/gacol3199.doc.htm) in New York last week, has the UN list comprising Gibraltar, New Caledonia, Western Sahara, American Samoa, Anguilla, Bermuda, British and US Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Guam, Montserrat, Pitcairn, Saint Helena, Turks and Caicos Islands, Tokelau and the Falkland Islands (Malvinas).

This motley crew, known as the Committee of 24, has 28 members: Antigua and Barbuda, Bolivia, Chile, China, Congo, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, Dominica,
Ecuador, Ethiopia, Fiji, Grenada, India, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Mali, Papua New Guinea, Russian Federation, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sierra Leone, Syria, Timor-Leste, Tunisia, United Republic of Tanzania and Venezuela.

If you deconstruct the word 'Decolonization', ization is the act, process, or result of making or doing, as applied to the colon. Without upsetting the Mods, I am told the benefits of colonic irrigation can be seen as improved bowel function together with clearer skin, more mental clarity and fewer headaches. Indeed, Cristina F' has got U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (http://en.mercopress.com/2010/03/01/hillary-clinton-adds-buenos-aires-to-her-latinamerican-tour)to pop into BA sometime this week, perhaps to recommend the process.

Meanwhile, a liquid discussion with ancient aviators out of the North Sea raised one sensible question: how do the Oil conglomerates propose to service these oil rigs? It is not just Desire Oil. Petrobras Energia SA (Brazil), Repsol-YPF (Spain) and Pan American Energy (BP Control) agreed in late 2008 to explore for and possibly produce oil in blocks in the Cuenca Malvinas (http://en.mercopress.com/2009/06/09/repsol-petrobras-and-bp-to-explore-for-oil-next-to-falklands-waters). This area is located in deep water 200 kilometers from Tierra del Fuego and south west of the current drilling in the North Falkland Basin.

Falkland Oil and Gas Limited (FOGL) has FIG licences in a new, untested basin (http://www.fogl.com/operations/images/_large_H.gif)covering 33,700 sq kms south and east of the Falkland Islands.

Melbourne mining group BHP Billiton is scheduled to start exploiting its licence to explore off the Falkland Islands in the next four months and has been warned by Argentina's ambassador to Australia (http://en.mercopress.com/2010/03/01/argentina-warns-bhp-billiton-about-drilling-in-falklands-waters)that it faces business sanctions if it pushes ahead with oil exploration.

As Google Earth puts the well Liz 14/19-A at about 140 miles from Stanley Airfield and around 270 miles to the nearest point of South America, what commercial helicopter can the Oilers use? Chile does not appear to have a commercial medium helo option, unless the US relent and let the military have 5 Russian M17s.

SASless
1st Mar 2010, 17:55
Google Earth puts the well Liz 14/19-A at about 140 miles from Stanley Airfield

That is about a one hour flight.....no problem!

Jackonicko
1st Mar 2010, 19:37
SASless,

While there are a few Boxheads in the Queen's genealogical closet, she's far from German.

Since the Brits are, by nature, a mongrel lot, most of us incline towards the thought that anyone born here, and who proclaims themselves English, sort of qualifies. And while Betty Windsor's grand-parents may have changed the family surname from Saxe Coburg Gotha as 'recently' as 1917, and though she's married to a Danish/Greek she hasn't got a German born ancestor since her Great great grandfather, Prince Albert (husband of the incredibly English Victoria - whose mum may also have been a tad on the German side), and we haven't had a foreign born or non English speaking monarch since George II, King from 1727-1760. That's nearly 300 years ago, and he was her great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather.

Not a terribly German monarchy..... and if we have to go back that far to define nationality, then there's barely such a thing as an American.

Generations:

QE II < KG VI < KG V < KE VII < Q V < Prince Edward, Duke of Kent < KG III < Frederick, PoW < King George II (who was a proper GERMAN - though in those days there was no such thing as Germany, of course!)

Diablo Rouge
1st Mar 2010, 19:47
Betty Windsor's grand-parents

Bad form; particulary in view of the audience of these pages. Should be modified or withdrawn. Show some respect man, for if anybody deserves it, Queen Elizabeth does.

Papillon
1st Mar 2010, 21:09
the incredibly English Victoria

The one whose mother was German, whose grandfather was German, who married a German, was brought up as a child speaking German, spoke German at home with her husband, and according to some had a German accent throughout her life?

bast0n
1st Mar 2010, 21:25
Mods - where are you?

Kreuger flap
1st Mar 2010, 21:42
Maybe it is time to assign this thread to Jetblast and let it die in the few seconds threads take to finish over there. It isn't even about military aviation anymore. It's just Boring now.

soddim
1st Mar 2010, 22:13
Maybe it's time we all moved on - there is very little useful dialogue left on Prune that is anything to do with military aviation.

Most of the posts are from the bitter and twisted or simply the uninformed.

I wonder how many who post here have either flown or supported military aviation directly.