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Saint Jack
28th Jan 2010, 02:11
I hope someone out there can help me, I'm looking for a copy of the famous photograph that shows a Lama flying along with another Lama attched to the hook by a short line. I'm trying to extol the the capabilities of this remarkable helicopter to a company and I believe this particular picture is, quite literally, worth a thousand words.

Ian Corrigible
28th Jan 2010, 18:22
He ain't heavy...

http://i.imgur.com/iGg2TyG.jpg

I/C

Granny
28th Jan 2010, 18:58
Actually-they are not both Lama's,- the lower aircraft is an Alouette II

ericferret
28th Jan 2010, 23:50
Somewhere there must be pictures of a Lama lifting a Lama as Dollar Lama G-BCPA pulled
G-AZNI out of Clatteringshaws forest after it crashed there circa 1979.

Saint Jack
29th Jan 2010, 00:18
Many thanks Ian. Yes, that's the one although I didn't realize that the load was actually an Alouett II as correctly pointed out by Granny ('Granny' - I'd love to know how that name was chosen). For those who may not be familiar with these helicopters, the Alouette II has a two-blade tail-rotor while the Lama has a three-blade tail-rotor (just discernable in the picture). Of course there are many other differences but this is perhaps the most visible.

As ericferret hinted at, any more similar photos out there? Thanks again guys.

John Eacott
29th Jan 2010, 03:27
'Granny' - I'd love to know how that name was chosen

He's always been known as Granny: I thought that was his real name for many years ;)

The other giveaway for AL2/Llama recognition is the engine :ok:

jp4toulon
29th Jan 2010, 06:02
And the battery: in the nose on a LAMA and RH Side below the engine on Al II:O

BoeingMEL
29th Jan 2010, 09:16
...many happy times at CVT c.88-90.. there seemed to be a retirement party there almost every fortnight! Happy Days :ok: bm

mtoroshanga
29th Jan 2010, 10:50
I suspect that the lower one is a 318C with an Astazou engine.

Is that the one that flew over the support vehicle on the road and put a blade through the roof of the cab?

Ian Corrigible
29th Jan 2010, 13:08
Yes, the load was an SA318C. Here's another view.

(Original image lost & deleted)

I/C

P.GLT
29th Jan 2010, 14:32
The blades number of the anti torque rotor is most sure way : AL II : 2 blades, AL III : 3 blades,
Lama has the dynamic assembly of an AL III ....

jp4toulon
30th Jan 2010, 08:50
Not so easy to recognize in flight, is'n it?
And yes it's a SA318, with an Astazou engine
The lama is registered in F-W..., that means it was at Aerospatiale ( Eurocopter now)

mtoroshanga
30th Jan 2010, 09:01
You can tell by the dampers onto the front cross-tube on the Lama but only on the rear cross-tube on the 318C.

spinwing
30th Jan 2010, 09:56
Mmm ...


... that means it was at Aerospatiale ( Eurocopter now) ....

or was it Sud Aviation ??? ..... ;)

mtoroshanga
30th Jan 2010, 10:04
Sud Aviation

jp4toulon
31st Jan 2010, 05:58
Sud Aviation became Aerospatiale in 1970
First flight of prototype: 17 (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/17_mars) mars (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_%28mois%29) 1969 (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1969_en_a%C3%A9ronautique)
Airworth certificate: 30 september 1970 (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970)
Name "LAMA" given July 1971

So my opinion is that picture was under Aerospatiale !

Good Week End :D