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iflyplanes
21st Jan 2010, 05:15
NTC 2010003-2

Ladies & gentlemen,
Following a security audit and at Corporate Security's recommendation,
effective from 1st Feb 2010, all crew members are requested to keep their
luggage with them at all times during the hotel check-out process, until the
luggage is loaded onto the crew transport. Should a hotel porter offer to take
your suitcase out of your sight, please decline this offer.
Ian Renwick
Flight Crew Personnel Manager


Pheww...guess we have until 1st feb and then obviously the world turns to custard....idiots.

Renwick trying to play with the big boys by putting a "i told you so" date on his attempt at keeping us safe.

Freaking Micromanagers...

HotDog
21st Jan 2010, 06:59
We are safe until Feb 1st!

No you are not. Way back in the Convair 880 days, a young bell hop knocked on my door at our crew hotel in Singapore and collected my suitcase and nav bag to load into the crew transport. We duly departed the hotel and boarded our flight back to Hong Kong. It wasn't until cruise that I removed my wallet from my nav bag and glanced inside it before putting it in my back pocket. Much to my surprise, I found the wallet totally bereft of cash, amounting to approx. USD400 in various currencies. I submitted a report to our Operations Manager (Flying), citing the bell hop as a suspect of theft. The reply I received said that they couldn't accuse the hotel staff due to lack of sufficient evidence. I than personally contacted the hotel manager who admonished me for not reporting the loss sooner as they already sacked the bell hop for similar thefts. This was decades before today's security concerns.

iceman50
21st Jan 2010, 08:39
iflyplanes

I despair, are you REALLY a PROFESSIONAL pilot, no wonder Management treat us the way they do with people like you around.:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

EXEZY
21st Jan 2010, 11:42
I agree with Iflyplanes. What is the point in this NTC? Why suddenly this nanny state fixation in CX. Surely there have been security issues for a while now, how is this going to make things safer?
It appears the airline is just jumping on the bandwagon to make it appear like it's doing something. That something doesn't have to be meaningful it just has to place a cursery nod towards an ill defined, imaginery, terrorist threat and that suffices. It's also a case of justifying jobs.

ab33t
21st Jan 2010, 12:09
They have to put in the effort to satisfy big brother

Humber10
21st Jan 2010, 14:37
this renwick guy is on a roll. must be that time of the year again where middle management have to justify their positions, ensure you make your quota of NTCs and keep your job... :}

HotDog
21st Jan 2010, 22:37
Maybe he has been told about VR-HFZ?

15/06/1972 Pleiku, South Vietnam, Convair 880 Cathay Pacific Mid-Air Bomb, 81 fatalities; which included some very close friends and colleagues of mine and everybody else in Cathay!

Steve the Pirate
22nd Jan 2010, 00:06
HotDog

I doubt it. This bloke wouldn't know anything about HFZ and the reasons why it fell out of the sky.

STP

Five Green
22nd Jan 2010, 00:20
Soooo is that Feb 01, Hong Kong time or Zulu or local ???

Woulda made more sense if it was "with immediate effect"

I am feelin safer already though....

FG

crwjerk
22nd Jan 2010, 02:52
Well, it is with immediate effect and has been for years. In VOL ( insert number) SECURITY section.... Thou shalt not leave your crew baggage with hotel staff out of sight. I regularly have to tell hotel staff not to take the crew bags away as they are not permitted to.

Ex Cathedra
22nd Jan 2010, 03:11
First we need to be told how to dress properly, now we need to be told how to take care of our own bags... Geez, we must really be a bunch of retards.

Just as well they don't trust us with the safety of hundreds of people then.

411A
22nd Jan 2010, 05:02
Yup, gotta watch them bags, least they grow legs and walk away, or....as my First Officer found out one morning in CDG, when he didn't pony up the cash for last nights hooker, and she threw his bag and flight kit out the hotel window.
Underwear scattered all over the hotel parking lot.:}

1200firm
22nd Jan 2010, 09:27
Look on the bright side. You can leave your luggage with the hotel porter all next week in complete safety.

Virtual Reality
22nd Jan 2010, 14:07
Perhaps the company was trying to reduce the overnight allowance (which includes tips to porter)??.........:}

jonathon68
25th Jan 2010, 13:29
Easy fix. Delegate one of the crew to stay with the bags and watch them being collected/loaded/unloaded.:ok: