JT8D-15A as cargo on a pax 747 ?

[aseanaero]

I want to ship a PW JT8D-15A engine (B737-200) to Pakistan and prefer to do it on a pax 747 due to ease of connecting flights however the shipping agent says the max dimensions acceptable on a pax 747 is 160 cm H x 150 cm W x 300cm L

I usually double check Indo freight forwarders as they give answers that suit them at the time and given the 747 forward and aft cargo doors are 168 H x 264 cm W it seems that the engine (160cm H x 165cm W x 342cm L) would fit.

I'm going to check directly with the airline but I was wondering whether anyone has carried a JT8D in the cargo hold of a pax 747 ?

ps . dangerous goods issues already sorted out.

[G&T ice n slice]

It depends on the aircraft stand & exactly how the engine is configured in the stand.

As far as I can remember it should fit.

Best to discuss with the airline rather than a forwarder.

Cheers

[OldCessna]

Should be no problem if it is on an "Air Transport stand"

A parking stand, shipping stand or maintenance stand will not work

[CR2]

You need to be careful. Due to the shape of the belly, it is narrower at the bottom (about 320cm) than at the top. I don't know about the engine in question (don't recall having one in the belly, but then again I had an entire maindeck to play with :-). See if your palletized engine would fit the profile of an LD9 and take it from there.

[muduckace]

Shipping a JT8 should not be a problem, the stage 3 noise mod made the exaust pipe longer if I remember correctly, if length is an issue this is easily removed.

[aseanaero]

Thanks for the responses , it's a bare engine , no engine intake or thrust reverser / exhaust assembly.

[Nom De Guerre]

Just beware, as said. The engine is 342cm long (as posted above) and the "bottom" of the belly is 317cm rail to rail, call it 330 wall to wall. It is wider at the top...

[aseanaero]

Thanks for all the inputs, the engine made it to it's destination ok :ok:

It was on an air transport stand and I had a number of components removed to keep it under the dimensions of an LD9 container.

Next one is a V2500 , with the large diameter of this engine plus the stand (it's 2.37metres high) it has to go on a wide body cargo , it's too big for the 727 and 737 cargo doors and we are still waiting on news whether we can use an AN-12 to do a short hop to Singapore so we can load it on a 747 cargo, although it SHOULD fit with about 7 centimetres to spare the operator is confirming whether it will fit over the hump at the end of the ramp.

If you ever get a chance to look at the V2500 with the cowls and thrust reversers off grab a coffee and sit back and look at it for a few minutes , it's a piece of mechanical art

[CR2]

Glad Freight Dogs could be of service again :ok:

[G&T ice n slice]

Just out of curiosity.......

used to be standard part of the reservations process to establish the actual stand reference number, because that ref gave you the acceptability of the engine to travel


(werl it was with our lot and I have been out of that side of things for about 15 years...)

[aseanaero]

Nobody asked for the stand reference number but there was a lot of photos sent to the forwarder.

[HAWK21M]

Glad to know the JT8D fitted well.

[CR2]

I've been doing this for 20+ years... never heard of a stand #. Then again, reservations, sales etc :hmm:

[G&T ice n slice]

As I say, been out of the line for 15 years...

now I think about it some more - it was something to do with the RR big fans. we had accurate scale drawings of the engine in the stand and from the stand reference we could identify which version of engine/stand combination we were being asked to move. made a diffrence as to whether would fit in a 10/16/20 foot pallet & whether needed to go crosswise in the a/c.

But it was all so long ago on another planet where it was all still fun & profitable...

[CR2]

Interesting G&T. From my perspective on the 74, only the Trent is crossloaded (on a specially designed 196*125 pmc thickness pallet) all the other RR big fans are can be loaded onto a 10 (sandwich pallet) or 16-20. 524 or 535 makes little difference in that sense.

The ONLY thing that interested me was the over WIDTH of whatever engine being longitudinally loaded. I'd often have a P1P (PAG) 88" pallet built to place opposite a 524 fan.