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Arm out the window
23rd Jul 2001, 06:08
If you want a good laugh, talk to Training Command about getting your experience put on certificates for civil accreditation.

You just send them your PREs and they come up with what you're good for, so the story goes.

Never mind that you can't get a civvy instructor or instrument rating to reflect your military flying, you can't even have your instructional experience recognised on a crap certificate unless you're currently in an instructing job.

So according to them, since I've left an instructing job and gone back to a squadron, I can't get any kind of recognition for having done the job.
However, if I had got a certificate at the time, that would have been fine!

The certificate itself would probably be worth bugger all anyway, but how's the bureaucratic attitude?

The person I spoke to gave me the old classic line "Yes, I agree with you, but that's the rules that we have to work under."

Yeah, good on ya!

doublehelix
23rd Jul 2001, 06:31
But don't you want your, wait for it...

Advanced Diploma in Aviation (Military Pilot)?

It's really useful, it shows that you've well...ummm...finished pilots course and done comsurv.

Is this thing actually useful? :confused:

Swingwing
25th Jul 2001, 12:06
Yes, receiving the diploma in the mail made me nearly burst with pride, it made me feel that it was all worthwhile..........NOT!! None of it is worth the embossed paper it's printed on.
Why don't they stop wasting their time with this C#$p and concentrate on getting recognition for the things that matter (as AOTW said, like a civilian Grade 2 QFI ticket and a command instrument rating, just to start with). Then we could look at some credits for the ATPL theory exams (surely Met and Human factors at a minimum.)
This has been done for other parts of the RAAF (admin and the techos for some quals) so it would seem that all that is required is a little bit of research to back up our claims of what we have been taught, and an attitude of standing up to CASA, and those who choose to leave might have something to show for all the years of hard work and a million and one flying tests, simulator chacks and writen exams.
Then again, who am I kidding. They want us to stay in, don't they? Why not make it as hard as possible?

SW

melchett
28th Jul 2001, 17:28
...and BFTS is too high a price to pay for getting the abovementioned quals (CIR, FI Gr 2/3)...Try ARDU Kingairs instead, still civil registered! :D

L J R
29th Jul 2001, 19:39
Don't forget your diploma [or was it certificate??] of Bushcraft for completing Comsurv.

By the way, when you get out you can go and get your Civil Instructor rating, and your Command IRT. The appropriate resettlement & civil schooling docs specifically state eligibility for this one. You can even get a few weeks off work getting them. You just need to spend a while looing for the orders to get them.

I did, and I have spent a few weeks getting them.