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sarius
5th Nov 2009, 12:27
Qantas Airways' professional engineers have voted to take industrial action against the carrier over wages.

The engineers want a 30% pay rise implemented over the next three years, says a Qantas spokesman, adding that this number is unreasonable.

More.. (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/11/05/334423/qantas-top-engineers-vote-for-industrial-action.html)

lordofthewings
6th Nov 2009, 07:01
QF top engineer, ha ha ha is that what those wank.rs really call themselves. They should come down on the floor and make decisions like a LAME has too on a daily basis.:D

BrissySparkyCoit
6th Nov 2009, 08:53
Nice one lord, just keep up heaping crap on those who don't work in your department.

....or maybe step back and realise we are all in the same boat that was captained onto a sand bar by the $11Million man who then ran off into the sunset.

The LAME's had a lot of support from people in various other bits of the company. Please try to remember that.

leewan
6th Nov 2009, 12:55
What exactly is the job scope of these top QF engineers ?

lordofthewings
7th Nov 2009, 03:45
BSC, you are 100% correct, will let the original post stand though.

Short_Circuit
7th Nov 2009, 23:56
30% pay rise


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Jet II
8th Nov 2009, 11:32
Of the 5,500 employees of Qantas engineering, approximately 150 are 'professional engineers'.

So the remaining engineers in Quatas are 'unprofessional engineers'? :sad:

superdimona
8th Nov 2009, 12:39
Quoth wikipedia:

The word professional traditionally means a person who has obtained a degree in a professional field. The term professional is used more generally to denote a white collar working person, or a person who performs commercially in a field typically reserved for hobbyists or amateurs.
In western nations, such as the United States, the term commonly describes highly educated, mostly salaried workers, who enjoy considerable work autonomy, economic security, a comfortable salary, and are commonly engaged in creative and intellectually challenging work.Less technically, it may also refer to a person having impressive competence in a particular activity.

Perhaps it's a bad choice of words - but what else should they call themselves?

It could be argued that in most other fields, the title 'engineer' is generally held by people with engineering degrees - this isn't the case Australian aviation, so I'd guess they feel they need to add something more to the plain old 'engineer' title to distinguish themselves.

Beeline
8th Nov 2009, 19:53
Haha, I gather economics was not a module within there BSc.

Good luck boys, sure the lads on the shop floor will re-train you on the tools!

DERG
8th Nov 2009, 21:34
The difference between an engineer and a fitter is easy to identify.

Fitters will let you roll out any anything...

Engineers will physically stop you...

When a "STOP" is called the fitters and the guys who bully them are usually found hiding somehere....in my time this usually was in the "crap closet"