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w_ocker
20th Jul 2001, 05:23
Gents. I am after stats on survival rates, time in water etc for water rescue in north sea/open ocean/english channel. Specifically, how have these stats changed from WW2 times to the present as affected by technology (helicopter, EPIRB, survival suits etc etc). Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

BEagle
20th Jul 2001, 11:12
Most practical research was carried out on the victims of Nazi concentration camps in the horrific 'experiments' of people like Mengele. However, your best point of contact in the UK would be the Officer Commanding, School of Combat Survival and Rescue, RAF St Mawgan, Newquay, Cornwall.

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Low and Slow
20th Jul 2001, 13:00
The US Coast Guard has the most comprehensive data I have seen. I was part of the team that tried to get the Mustang MAC-10 survival suit into the RAF and ARMY. All the data we used came from the USCG.

Cyclic Hotline
21st Jul 2001, 22:54
There is a variety of information available from a variety of sources, including a number of quite good videos produced by the US Coastguard. You might also try posting this question in Rotorheads, as the people who are most likely to rescue you in the event of that necessity, all hang out there. :)

Couple of links from the safety file;

RGIT probably know more about cold water survival that anyone, simply because they do it for a living on an unprecedented scale. http://www.rgit.co.uk/rgit_msie.htm

US Military survival manual. http://www.aircav.com/survival/asurtoc.html

Mustang. Some figures on survival rates here. http://www.mustangsurvival.com/education/hypo.asp

Good general survival site. http://www.equipped.org/

USCG Hypothermia chart. http://www.equipped.org/pp/pic235.htm


Hope this is of assistance.

Oggin Aviator
23rd Jul 2001, 01:59
You could try contacting the Institute of Naval Medicine in the Portsmouth area - they do a lot of research into this kind of stuff.

Hengist Pod
4th Aug 2001, 20:55
Or you could try reading the JSP318 the next time you sign for it.

Thud_and_Blunder
5th Aug 2001, 16:08
...er, Hengist, I don't think they have to sign for having read and understood JSP318 in Australia. Anyway, they're probably too busy celebrating yet another Ashes to care about UK paperwork.

Snapshot
5th Aug 2001, 16:50
Sea Drills off Fowey.
http://members.tripod.co.uk/AvCollect/helo/SK_ZH544_07_web.jpg

http://members.tripod.co.uk/AvCollect/helo/SK_ZH544_01_web.jpg
Snappers

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w_ocker
6th Aug 2001, 02:04
thank you all for the help... love the pics too. Oh, and T and B, thanks. It seems we antipodeans dont read the same gumph you guys do when signing for the aircraft. (We produce enough of that ourselves) :rolleyes: Thanks for the congrats, too.

Capt Widebody
6th Aug 2001, 11:28
Snapshot

I presume you mean the lovely Cornish town of "Fowey". I thought it was just mis-pronounced!

Snapshot
6th Aug 2001, 11:46
Capt Widebody,
what a ****, thanks, I knew there was something wrong when I wrote it :D
Put it down to being in the middle of the nightmare of moving house/world etc and being without zzzz's for days. (Poxy excuse I know)
Edited to correct mistake.
Cheers
Snappers

dopeonarope
7th Aug 2001, 22:37
Hey I was wondering where those photos of mine ended up..... remember to get those drills right before you get shouted at by your friendy SAR Winchman :mad: ..."Morning Sir Dinghy Drills are pretty crap today....do you have any pain anywhere?....oh this might hurt a little..." :D

Snapshot
7th Aug 2001, 23:17
dopeonarope, do I know you?
snappers :)

Hengist Pod
8th Aug 2001, 11:18
D on a R

Don't call the tw@t sir!