Jetstar plane evacuated after engine fire

[BeerBaron]

Jetstar plane evacuated after engine fire - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/28/2725887.htm)

Jetstar plane evacuated after engine fire

Posted 6 hours 7 minutes ago

* Map: Newcastle 2300

A Jetstar plane has been evacuated after one of its engines caught fire as it landed in Newcastle north of Sydney.

The plane was travelling from Brisbane to Newcastle but when it landed at 6:30pm yesterday its left engine caught alight for about three seconds.

A spokesman for Jetstar said passengers were evacuated without their luggage and the aircraft has been grounded for maintenance.

Simon Westaway says the plane was evacuated as a precaution and has been grounded overnight for maintenance.

It is believed the fire was caused by residual fuel in the planes tail pipe.

[ditch handle]

The Captain initiated a land evacuation after a 3 second engine fire?

Mmmm.....

[MaxHelixAngle]

Precautionary disembarkation I suspect, media would know no different.

MHA

[Ramjager]

Tailpipe fire as opposed to an engine fire....somewhat different..

[Gobetter]

Let's see how long it takes this onestar rated airline to blame Qantas Maintenance for this!! I'll give it 24 hours.

This incident is yet another reason to never fly a LCC.
They are dangerous!
Tires shredding on VIRGIN aircraft, engines blowing up on JETSTAR.

[ules]

Hey Gobetter ive seen you bagging out alot of LCC in a few posts? i dont understand that your baging out Virgin,Jetstar,Tiger, what about Rex? I recall they had a blown tyre recently ? or Qantas gas bottle explosion and rapid decompression from the massive gash in the Airframe. i can go on and on ? not to mention all their delays and incidents on Airbus aircraft. Do you recommend we dont fly any Australian airline? Can you recommend Cityrail or Countrylink? :hmm:

[BigGun]

Let's see how long it takes this onestar rated airline to blame Qantas Maintenance for this!! I'll give it 24 hours.

This incident is yet another reason to never fly a LCC.
They are dangerous!
Tires shredding on VIRGIN aircraft, engines blowing up on JETSTAR.

Wow Gobetter you really have no idea do you.

Lets see now, im sure the media as they normally do blow things way out of prespective.

They would have disembarked rather swiftly, i dont think they used slides or anything like that.

Qantas doesnt have anything to do with JQ's 320's well at least in my port they dont.

Tires didnt shread, they fell off / cracked rims from what i saw.

need we say anymore.

a 3 sec tail pipe fire isnt much to worry about at all

this sort of stuff happens on all engnies on aircraft around the world.

I suggest you sick to boats, but then again there is icebergs too.

[Gobetter]

Just sh!t stirring to make a point guys.

Hell, if this were a QF flight, we would be up to page 4 already.

Everyone jump's up and down, rant's and raves when Qantas has an incident, yet, along comes a LCC incident, and it's "ohh, no don't say anything bad, it's just the media hyping it up ay"... "it's normal, happen's to every airline, every different engine type.." etc etc...

This is not the first example. Pprune is becoming very repetative, but fun, none the less.

Have a good day all! :ok:

(except you ratpoison... which I see you now have very quickly deleted your post)

[tjc]

I guess the arrival engineer didnt spot the tail pipe fire........?

Oh hang on, what arrival engineer......!!!!

So much for NG aircraft & LCC penny pinching, give me old school practices any day.

One day all the moons will align and I dont want to be on board when this happens.

[tjc]

a 3 sec tail pipe fire isnt much to worry about at all

this sort of stuff happens on all engnies on aircraft around the world.



Shall we look at the history of small fires that end up bad....please dont say that this isnt much to worry about.

I have seen a few tail pipe fires in my time, they should never be treated so lightly.

[Flight Detent]

I seem to recall that tailpipe fires occur during startup or shutdown, not when the engine is operating at idle or better.

The fix for these events is to drive the engine on it's starter to blow out the flames, no harm done.......that is unless you do a 'precautionary' evacuation and then have multiple pax on the ground running around the airplane, which will preclude any motoring operation.

And, since a tailpipe fire gives no fire warning indication in the flight deck, how did they know it was burning, for that 3 seconds.

"3 seconds tailpipe fire" - evacuation seems a mite over the top!

Just my 2 cents...incoming!

Cheers...FD...:confused:

[gordonfvckingramsay]

Assumption being the mother of all :mad:, consider this:


China Airlines Flight 120 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Airlines_Flight_120)


Only in hindsight do we know that the J* aircraft wasn't going to burn to the ground like this aeroplane did.

:ok:

[Disco Stu]

Well silly me thought jet engines all had a fire inside them somewhere:ugh::ugh:

Disco Stu:ok:

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

Hell, if this were a QF flight, we would be up to page 4 already.


I heard that Qantas had an engine fire up near Singapore a few weeks back. Not in the papers though.

It is believed the fire was caused by residual fuel in the planes tail pipe.

I have seen this occur a number of times on start up but unless I have lost some technical knowledge, I can't see residual fuel causing a 3 second fire at altitude.

[Fatfish]

Heard on news, Jetstar pax evac due engine fire somewhere in Ozzland. Any news? :confused:

[captncannot]

The Captain initiated a land evacuation after a 3 second engine fire?

Mmmm.....

it was on fire ditch handle, and you weren't there. you have no idea what information was and wasn't available to the crew to support their decision. pull your head in.

[11Fan]

http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-reporting-points/393826-jetstar-plane-evacuated-after-engine-fire.html

But it is a total non-event.

[ditch handle]

it was on fire ditch handle, and you weren't there. you have no idea what information was and wasn't available to the crew to support their decision. pull your head in.
Today 04:31

You assume I'm critical of decisions made by the Captain?
Had it not occurred to you that I may have been critical of the reporting?

No?
Well how about you pull yours in.:rolleyes:

[my oleo is extended]

There was also fire around the engine cowl. Engine change was done today in NTL, so the engine is stuffed. Another Bus is U/S in Tulla with damage to a cargo door by GSE, and wait for it - shock, horror nobody reported the damage. JQ has a growing list of 'GSE/Airframe damage files' that say the same thing - 'nobody knows how, when or why the damage occurred' ! Absolute joke....

[ampclamp]

hey oleo thanks for that info.didnt hear of those gnd damage issues.
do jetstar have a blame culture where its sack first, ask questions later?
if so that could be why the Sgt Schultz attitude prevails.

[Ngineer]

Happy Safety Week peoples......:ok:

[my oleo is extended]

Hi Amp, mate its not so much a 'sack first then ask questions later' culture,its more of a lack of oversight of their ramp activity. The culture amongst some of their ground handling contractors is that they quite simply dont report damage when they cause it, partly due to fear of reprisal and partly due to simply not giving a s..t in general.

I reiterate that this is not the case among all of the lads toughing it out on the ramp, but it does exist. The safety department is too small and understaffed for the size of the operation, internal audits of third party contractors are basically non existent ( domestically ), and as far as international audits go, well they have flown to some international ports now for up to 30 months or so without a single ramp audit taking place.

In reality nothing much has changed over the past thirty years, the only attention paid to an operation is up the front of the plane in the flight deck. Nobody looks at the nuts and bolts of an airline operation to see what is actually going on - out of sight out of mind ! Sad but true.

[Black Hands]

You know what they say...
Pay penuts, you'll get...peanuts.