Admin Guru

[6nandneutral]

Hope you have to 'work' for your money tomorrow, by having to spend all day discussing and assisting aircrew pay queries. You may have to send a few incorrectly completed 1771s back to their originators. Have a nice day.......not.

[peterward]

Admin Guru-you're my hero. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

[Dr Schlong]

I'm sure he'll be spending the day with the phone off the hook and then finish at lunchtime as there's a "manning crisis" and PSF can't open in the afternoon! <img src="mad.gif" border="0">

[Tonkenna]

I really don't know why you are all getting so wound up by this guy. I am sure that he is luvin it. I am just happy that I will be getting a bit of extra cash to help pay a few bills. Leave him alone and he may well go away.

Tonks "the retained" :)

[Jackonicko]

It must be depressing for anyone who failed OASC or IOT to think that this twerp slipped through the net. And it's worrying for any taxpayer that the standards required for his branch must be that 'flexible'.

[Megaton]

JN,

You're obviously quite right that some slip through the net. The other problem is that the RAF is, quite rightly, viewed as an organisation focussed on aviating. Must be difficult for recruiters to attract high quality applicants in the ground branches when external markets are so buoyant for talented engineers, adminstrators, doctors etc. End result is that we get the plebs like AG who couldn't get a real job! :)

[peterward]

HP-steady on old chap/chapess. You can't tarnish all of our ground based brethren with the same brush as Admin Guru! Some of the guys are very talented-but find something in the services that the civilian World can't offer them. Sure there are plebs in the ground branches, but I don't think anyone would pretend that there aren't some aircrew you wouldn't want to slap with a moist kipper. Eg-childhood friend of mine-always wanted to be a pilot/nav. Unfortunately, he's as blind as a bat, so decided to go Regt to do something near the sharp end. Gets told 6 weeks from the end of the 'J' course he has arthritic knees so is binned. Now re-mustered as provost. Very intelligent chap and would have no snags getting a job outside, but loves the RAF life. Definately not an 'Admin Guru'..... <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[Megaton]

Apologies to the professional and dedicated ground branches, no offence meant. I wasn't trying to tar everyone with AG's brush but if we erode esprit de corps, quality of life, interesting tours, there isn't going to be much left to attract Britains' brightest and best into uniform. Personally, it's hard to see the attraction of OC GD, OC SSS, DLO blah blah blah at the best of times.

[bluntie]

Apology accepted. We didn't all join the RAF with a wish to be aircrew. People's aspirations are all different. It would be a boring world if we were all the same. . . As has already been said, there are pillocks in every trade/branch.

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[peterward]

Bluntie, hope they've given you a heater in the ivory tower basement? Either that or a copy of FHM....

[bluntie]

I have a nice heater. It gets switched on in October, breaks a week later, takes a month or 2 to fix, then gets switched off in March. A bit like the airships upstairs. Old and unreliable!. Oooh, bitter and twisted!. <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[6nandneutral]

Guess what I had in my mail slot today........... .Yep a returned 1771 <img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

[Admin Guru]

6nandneutral - You obviously want to coax me onto this thread.. .If you'd filled the thing out correctly in the first place then it wouldn't be returned. It really isn't that difficult and I worry that such a simple form proves to be so challenging for you.Thank God there are some professionals working to help you do it. Need help signing for your aircraft from the engineers aswell? At least I can fill out my Navigator cross over papers on my own. You tw@t.

Thanks for creating a forum on me - I've obviously been elevated to the ranks of BEagle who also enjoys his own forum at present. Slightly disappointed at some of the short sighted comments that have been posted in reference to my questions but then I suppose those posts just reflect the crap attitude of the postee.

[Silver Tongued Cavalier]

Could Admin Guru and The Guvnor be the same person!?. .. .They both seem to have incredibly similar traits!!

[BEagle]

Hardly my own 'forum', Aunt Aggie, just a thread which someone else opened. Although I tried to let certain folk know that we'd been told that future reention incentives would be carefully targetted where needed, all I received was a torrent of ill-found abuse. I guess you know the feeling!!

Whilst some of your views might perhaps be viewed as rather naiive, a 'bluntie' who stands his ground is good to find. Very best of luck with your cross-over application!

Incidentally, after the AFPRB announcement late yesterday, our station admin chums beavered away to ensure that a copy of the 2002 Pay Award was available on our local P-Drive at startex this morning. How many folk rang up or e-mailed to say thank you, I wonder?

I couldn't then because I was in the simulator at 0730 - so I will now. Thank you to all the admin staff at the Secret Oxfordshire Airbase for making everything currently published available to everyone so quickly!!

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[Fox_4]

Now AG is going for a crossover!! Strike a light. Watch out all the F3 crews when he pitches up in the Falklands! Bet he has some brilliant ideas to liven the place up.

At least you will know who on the sqn to ask about claims!

AG - Let us know the outcome of your application! It will be most interesting

[cheapseat]

Beagle

When you say, “all I received was a torrent odd ill-found abuse” if that is how my questions and comments appear to you then I apologise unreservedly.

I know it is certainly a cheek to start a thread in your good name however insult was not my intention. In fact one of my main motives for it was that your name is well respected on this forum.

The point of the thread is that you, like myself have been told about the targeting of the latest retention package, however I can lay down the figures of showing the OVERMANNING of non-GD/P/N aircrew and likewise the under manning of SNCO aircrew. You chose to believe the system and as a man who invariably finds the substance behind the myth with regard most things Royal Air Force I wondered why.

Sorry

Cheapseat by name, mug by profession.

[6nandneutral]

AG, for your info the 1771 was filled in correctly, its rejection was an error. PSF apologised and then they were extremely helpful on what has been a busy day for them. I thank them and appreciate their efforts. I won't lower myself to your standards by swearing on this forum, but the same back at you with many hedgehogs and porcupines. I started this 'thread' not 'forum' to bait you I admit. However you are not worth it to continue so I suggest it is now closed. You are the weakest link........goodbye.

[nav attacking]

AG. .I only hope you end up in HMP Kinloss and that you hate Whisky, Mountains, Trees, Quiet Roads, Haggis etc, etc. Oh and that someday you are my second nav (or Wizzo as you will be called if you get the crossover, it is not guaranteed). :)

Despite what the board and others may say the only real future for a new nav is Nimrod! . .EFA (single seat); SH (poss back to 2 pilot ops);VC10, R1 and E3(black box); GR4 replacement (poss UAV or just MRA4 with Stormshadow, ALARM, Maverick etc. I dream on...)

Its the only navs job really worth doing anyway.... . . <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

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[KD]

GR4 replacement ????

When`s that coming in exactly then ?

Any bids higher than 2015 ?

No . . . . . .guess there`s a nav job for the next 15 yrs then <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

[NoseGunner]

Admin Guru,

Could I just offer a bit of advice?. .Even if you are who you claim to be, you are obviously brand new to the air force and should be a little careful about expressing views when you will certainly find several experts on any subject on this forum.

If you want to know about the capabilities of the F3, or any other type, then please visit a squadron. The aircrew like showing off (obviously) and will usually be more than happy to give you a brief on their aircraft. Otherwise you are just spouting ill informed crap.

By the way, the F3 blue circle radar thing is at least 15 years out of date - things have moved on a bit since then.

Look forward to hearing from you <img src="cool.gif" border="0">

[K52]

Admin Guru

Although having "retired", during the clearout of 1995,I well recall an incident in the 80s where we were retasked from an RAF airfield to a Civilian Airfield to accommodate a task involving Foreign VIPs. This required the crew going into "crew rest" to enable us to fulfill crew duty requirments.

I remember that I had to pay the bill on my own credit card as we did not have an imprest.

The subsequent claim was turned down by the Admin Branch on the grounds that " there is nothing in QRs that allows Aircrew to sleep during the day".

I was subsequently informed that it took the intervention of SASO for me to be reimbursred

Comments

[Greg Baddeley]

Even if he's not the Guv, he'll do fine as a replacement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cheif Wiggam]

Admin guru you are revealed. A bloody aircrew wannabe. Arrgh, you have played right into their hands, fuelling the misconcpetion we are all OASC/retread failures! I will now be filling in all my 1771's erronously in a bid to increase your workload. Be 'blunt' (what ever that means) and proud, or don't bother at all.

[Flatus Veteranus]

NETTO

What's the point in dredging up Britannia66's whinge? He was just suffering from a bit of penis-envy. :)