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Bla Bla Bla
8th Oct 2009, 15:20
If for instance you operate as a fishing guid and you fly your clients to the place you are guiding them and you are a cpl, is this legal with out an AOC.

Oh and you do not offer charter or any other flying service but you use your plane instead of you 4wd only for the above clients.

Just wondered.

Stop ECAM
8th Oct 2009, 15:45
CAR 206 Commercial purposes (Act, s 27 (9))
(1) For the purposes of subsection 27 (9) of the Act, the following commercial purposes are prescribed:
1)(b) charter purposes, being purposes of the following kinds:
(i) the carriage of passengers or cargo for hire or reward to or from any place, other than carriage in accordance with fixed schedules to and from fixed terminals or carriage for an operation mentioned in subregulation 262AM (7) or under a permission to fly in force under subregulation 317 (1);
(ii) the carriage, in accordance with fixed schedules to and from fixed terminals, of passengers or cargo or passengers and cargo in circumstances in which the accommodation in the aircraft is not available for use by persons generally;

Open or closed charter. Companies utilise closed charter transport to ferry employees from A to B. Only for their purposes, no-one else on the flight except employees, = closed charter. Your fishing trips would be similarly viewed.

VH-XXX
8th Oct 2009, 20:03
Wouldn't it be as simple as:

employees on board = no aoc
client or customer = aoc required

irrelevant if it is a ppl or cpl if you have no aoc.

compressor stall
8th Oct 2009, 21:08
Hmmm - how is bla bla's idea different to skydiving companies, if one joined say the "East Alligator River Fishing Association".

goin'flyin
8th Oct 2009, 22:23
Quite simply, are they paying you for a service?
YES.
You need an AOC.

W00kiee
8th Oct 2009, 22:51
Advertise it with "complimentary" transfer’s.