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Max R8
20th Jan 2002, 18:48
Just thought I'd start a counter wind up to "whinging aircrew" and open a small forum to relate on some less than helpfull attitudes from our otherwise most proffesional support teams in admin.

Just to kick off, wasn't it a certain OC Admin at the large Cotswold air base some while ago that, when invited to attend a station flight safety symposium, refused to send a rep coz "flight safety is not relevant in Admin Wing" Do we still have the e-mail print out?

Megaton
20th Jan 2002, 19:25
I think I've just found OC A's e-mail on the Flight Safety Symposium:

Dear OC Ops

Thank you for your kind invitation to your little Meeting; however, Thursday afternoon's are just not good for me since I'd be letting down my golf partner. Besides, flight safety is not really an issue in Admin Wg. We have enough problems worrying about paper cuts and eye-strain from those new computers we've just had delivered. Now, those chaps in Eng Wg might be interested in your Symposium but I don't think I'll be attending.

P Pen
Wg Cdr
OC Admin Wg

circle kay
21st Jan 2002, 00:06
As a preamble I do not post this to decry the RAFP as a trade. God knows we need them to secure our units in the current climate. Just to question the mindset of the enlightened individual who thought up this “crime prevention” measure.

On or about Christmas Eve or Christmas Day 2001 the duty RAFP team went round the airfield side of Ice Station Kilo and proceeded to collect up all the bicycles not chained to something solid and placed them in the exercise yard of the guardroom!
This included cycles that had chains locking the wheel to the frame so were immobile anyway. Now what was the point of that?
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KD
21st Jan 2002, 19:54
Nice counter whinge idea MR8 but not really got the steam AG whipped up .

I personally think it`s frustrating that everyone bit and replied as they did . You would think people in our profession would be the most secure in their job , yet allow someone like this to wind them up !!

As for RAFP comments , MP`s are the same the world over. I think OC RAFP should be a secondary duty for chilled Aircrew who would hold the policy " Let`s keep the lads out of trouble and not in it " Anyone with excessive trivial ticket issuing records would be denied promotion .

Credit due when real criminals are caught ! A similar spate of bikes going missing at a base in Yorks , due to the police , happened a few years ago . At the time , REAL criminals were coming in the base and nicking bikes too !!! If they`d spent more time being alert for the pikeys instead of being ar$E$ then it wouldn`t happen !!

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bluntie
21st Jan 2002, 23:32
Oh how original, a thread slagging off 'blunties'. Can't we talk about something more constructive, please. With all that's going on in the world in which the RAF is involved, there must be something more constructive to discuss?.

MrBernoulli
21st Jan 2002, 23:58
Yes, the original text from 'that' e-mail is still available.

Bluntie, either you're a wind up......or you've bitten hook, line and sinker. Wonderful.

BEagle
22nd Jan 2002, 00:53
On this occasion, I have to side with bluntie! What is to be gained by deliberate provocation of our 'bluntie' support team?

We had a F/L loggy at Wattisham (when it was a proper FJ base!) who had a very dry sense of humour and could put on the "No - it clearly states in AP blah, para blah that the entitlement is" voice of a real jobsworth when suitably primed with an unwitting target. One fine day, our SLOps decided that he wanted one of those magnetic Kojak-style twirly lights which he could pop on the roof of his Metro when hurtling off to some incident or other so that the proles would know that He was Important. Blunt mate found this too good to resist and put on his deadpan voice to request 'justification' over the phone so that the demand could be satisfied. SLOps made a total pratt of himself sounding ever so important in his request for his little orange light and the rest of the Ops Room pi$$ed themselves with laughter. A few weeks later the new toy arrived in stores for SLOps - but blunt mate phoned up in person to tell SLOps that his new blue light had arrived. SLOps went into low earth orbit over the phone about it being the wrong colour whilst blunt mate droned on and on about section reference numbers, equipment scales and various other bits of adminers' code which only they really understand - we were all wetting ourselves. Eventually blunt mate announced that it was being sent over anyway together with the quintuplicate vouchers, apologised for lack of carbon paper and told SLOps that each copy would need to be filled out by him personally before the 'Lamps (emergency) magnetic - Blue' would be delivered. About 20 entertaining minutes later, during which SLOps' blood pressure reached an impressive level on the Richter scale, a lad from stores arrived with a huge sheaf of vouchers which he handed to SLOps for completion, meticulously checking each one. Then came the grand opening of the box - and out came the lamp. It was, of course, orange and came with a Kojak lollipop and a note saying "Gotcha!! Supply Wg 1, aircrew 0".

Who says they have no sense of humour?

Cheif Wiggam
22nd Jan 2002, 01:02
OC RAFP a secondary duty!! Oh I wish. Whilst not currently fulfilling that role i am off the red and black persussion. As for getting the lads of well the that would be fraudulent and corrupt (hmm sounds fun). But remmeber, befreind your OC Police and it can work wonders, cross us and we will cease your bikes at the stroke of midnight (fade to manicial laughter).

JimNich
22nd Jan 2002, 01:14
They turned me into a Newt!

Cheif Wiggam
22nd Jan 2002, 01:58
May I appologise for the spelling in the above post as I am a reading policeman and not a writing one. And before you start actually i worked quiet hard at school...

KD
22nd Jan 2002, 19:55
JimNich , take it you got better ?

EESDL
24th Jan 2002, 04:41
Bluntie. .Perhaps you can explain why, during the busiest period of sustained Ops the RAF has seen since the Gulf, SHQ shuts for lunch at a well known City of Tents in SE Oman?. .Aircraft are arriving and departing around the clock yet with their cagoes of personnel. The Detached Admin Group Office feels compelled to close for lunch and work a desert 9-5!!!!Displays an amazing lack of regard for the current situation. . .In an environment where sections are desperately short of personnel, there is not much to laugh about but this 'Blunt' attitude makes Blunties the laughing stock of the RAF.

BEagle
24th Jan 2002, 11:11
But EESDL, isn't there some good news? I hear that amongst the essential improvements to the quality of life being achieved for our desert campers by the Blunt Ones is the formation of an Equal Opportunities Committee.....

That'll be nice.........

Mick Stability
24th Jan 2002, 13:06
In my 12 yrs the one thing that really got on my tits, and from talking to my mates who remain, is the staggerring obstructive attitude of the blunties. The stories are too numerous to mention here.

There was however one jewel of an exception. A certain OC Admin Sqn at Tadcaster International called Gerry Halloran. I will never forget him smashing the ivories surrounded by young blades singing 'Therrrrre's a Bluntie in the bar, in the bar!!!'

Priceless, just priceless.

bluntie
24th Jan 2002, 14:50
EESDL. As I am not an admin type I cannot answer the question. Maybe they're being run by an idiot. (Obvious, I know!). Ask them the question. (again, obvious!). I'd be interested in the answer, as it would p*ss me off too. <img src="eek.gif" border="0">