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Who's Ya Daddy
15th Nov 2001, 00:30
Apparently there is a bloke somewhere who checks this site out and relays info to CAS. If this is true, then why not post GENUINE issues under here to get them to the top! Serious issues and not simple gripes though - you never know, they may get a mention tomorrow, rather than next years AFI (you wish)!!

BEagle
15th Nov 2001, 11:31
Good morning Sir!!

Whilst there will certainly be some valid points hidden amongst the general free-for-all of PPRuNe, I do hope that your Captain Darling does not have too fine a mesh on his $hit filter before presenting you with information gleaned from this site.

For often it is those with passionately held and quite valid views who are perhaps least able to express them in perfect prose - and it would indeed be unfortunate if Captain Darling threw out the baby with the bath water!

1.3VStall
15th Nov 2001, 15:11
WYD,

Why would CAS want to gather info from PPRuNE? Like all airships he's already surrounded by truth-filtering sycophants who tell him exactly what he wants to know!

Jackonicko
15th Nov 2001, 16:38
While I wouldn't suggest that there is 'internicene warfare' between the Groups (the ultimate 'customer'), the DLO, the DPA and Whitehall, I'd suggest that there are plenty of two- and three-stars who may be leaving CAS in little doubt as to the wisdom of his action (or lack thereof) on issues like the creeping menace of privatisation, and a variety of other PPRuNe favourites.

Whipping Boy's SATCO
15th Nov 2001, 21:34
'Balanced Scorecards' = Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

sangiovese
16th Nov 2001, 14:24
Or 'Groupthink' (perhaps we should call it Commandthink). Most of our 'yes men' should be refered to examples such as the BA tailfin saga (course Mr Ayling it looks lovely - when Ayling was colourblind) or 'mmm that Cherry coke tastes lovely' Mr CEO of Coca Cola.

dazbo
16th Nov 2001, 15:26
Having been totally pi55ed off that my 'handgrenade' draft reports used to be as threatening as soft toilet paper by the time they reached the 'starred' recipient after numerous re drafts as they went up the chain was surprised when found an AOC that liked to find out for himself.

He would often lose his minders on visits and sit in crewroom throwing topics around to see what response he got. His other favourite was to lose possee at Dinning Ins and 'socialise' with drunken JO's. Amazing what opions you could learn from inebriated youngsters. Possee used to follow in huddle and cringe which was good sport for us.

Best call was a certain S/L telling him his entire staff was cr@p whilst they listened intently from next group. AOC agreed with him - or was I to pickled and made that up?

Ghost Dancer
16th Nov 2001, 22:47
BEagle

Why should they break the habits of a lifetime? Baby? Bathwater? who cares as long as I get my K.

Jackonico,

Man/Woman/Person - god you've really got to stop smoking that stuff, it's warping your mind. (by the way, I assume your last was irony)

Ghost Dancer
16th Nov 2001, 23:10
Can anyone out ther help me with my thesis?

I am in a position where, despite my constitutional rights, I am denied access to the Air Force List (in fact my likeness appears on several "Ten Least Wanted" lists)

Soooo, what I need (would like) are statistics, with reliable verification on the following:-

a) How many aircraft do we have?
b) How many active bases do we still have in UK? (include those on Care and Maintenance, but not detatchments like Colerne)
c) How many Officers of Air rank do we have?

Sorry if I am being a bit of a Forum Hog, but this MAY be important to the continuation of the free world and civilisation as we now it!!

Ta GD

opso
16th Nov 2001, 23:35
GD,

Calm down and breathe in to this paper bag for a while before you hyperventilate! To answer your questions: too few; too few; too many.

Of course, seeing as how your thesis is going to secure civilisation, you could always try buying a copy of the current Air Force List from HMSO, Amazon.co.uk or, heaven forbid, on special order through a book shop (Price: £22.00 ISBN 011772937X) - a small price to save the known world! :rolleyes: :(

Al Titude
16th Nov 2001, 23:38
Most of this stuff can be found on the RAF website. The address is raf.mod.uk - hope you can find all the info you need!

[ 16 November 2001: Message edited by: Al Titude ]

Rude C'man
18th Nov 2001, 04:50
How come gerri was paid thousands of pounds in a sad attempt to entertain our boys, when we couldn't even get Aircon units for our troops?