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ScopeDope
31st Oct 2001, 05:07
Evening all,

Bit of a spotters question this but I'm bored at work.

On the news last week re the air campaign over Afganistan a reporter said that F14's were bombing Kabul.

Now we all know that the F14's were not bombing but does anyone know if anything ever came of the so called F14 'Bombcat' programme.

<Spotter mode Off>

Mach the Knife
31st Oct 2001, 06:14
Muppet

ScopeDope
31st Oct 2001, 06:18
Informative tw@t Aren’t you.....

:)

You wanna cheer up a bit

henry crun
31st Oct 2001, 06:44
F14's dropped quite a lot of LGB's in the Balkans conflict so presumably that capability is still being used.

ScopeDope
31st Oct 2001, 07:25
Thank you henry,

There you go Mach a nice polite reply. Now repeat after me 'I really must change my signature'

:D :D :D

Didntdoit
31st Oct 2001, 11:43
Saddo Formation Check in.

The US Navy realised a while back that the luxury of having dedicated aircraft for dedicated jobs on deck was one that could no longer be afforded. In addition, the main threat to the carrier group, the long-range, cruise missile-toting bomber is not a sight one sees every day, anymore.

Consequently, the role of the F-14 became an expanded one. The Tomcat has been integrated with the Lantirn targeting pod (ala F-16 and F-15E) and is generally able to tote a minimum of 2 LGB under fuselage. And this whilst maintaining some air-to-air capability.

The term 'fighter' in the air-to-air sense is becoming increasingly dated, and seems to be given to any design that is single or two-seat, has one or to large engines and carries AAMs. However, as we know, the JSF is primarily a platform for 2 x 2000lb-class PGMs. A more accurate term I'm not sure of, but one for debate.

Where did I put that box?

Gainesy
31st Oct 2001, 14:05
Er, we could always call them fighter-bombers?

Didntdoit
31st Oct 2001, 19:46
Gainsy

Don't be soft - far too simple.

It'd have to be something like NCDCSAPTCLAI - Non-Collatoral Damage Causing Super Accurate Platform,That Can Look After Itself, surely?

OK - F/A then.

Mike Cusack
31st Oct 2001, 23:01
I made a model of a Tomcat a few years back ... that had bombs on it ... green ones ... looked very dangerous.

Red Snow
31st Oct 2001, 23:45
As well as lots of laser-bombing, Tomcats are also being used as fast-FACs. They have much greater legs than the Hornet, enabling them to hang around (especially the Bs and Ds), and they have two pairs of beady littles on board. The LANTIRN seems to work pretty well on the F-14, too. They FACed a lot in Kosovo, and are doing the same over Afghanistan. Quite a few of the TV clips of 'Air Force jets circle overhead' etc etc have been of Cats doing their thang.

henry crun
1st Nov 2001, 15:00
Didntdoit: re your definition of a fighter in the last para.
It falls down when one considers the so called F117 stealth fighter, which, to the best of my knowledge does not and never has carried any AAM.
If fact it is a mystery to me why it was given the F designation in the first place.
Any suggestions ?

Jackonicko
1st Nov 2001, 15:11
Like F-111.

And like F-111 some A-A capability was envisaged when the aircraft was designated.

Also the Spams have a tendency to describe (if not designate) anything they can as a fighter - including such fighters as the A-10, and even the OV-10 Bronco (have an official brochure describing it as a 'ground support fighter' or somesuch)