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NoAndThen
25th Aug 2009, 07:39
Air China presence in Cathay to show contrast in corporate cultures
Charlotte So
Aug 22, 2009
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When Cathay Pacific Airways (SEHK: 0293) executives joined the board of state-owned Air China (SEHK: 0753, announcements, news) after the carrier took a stake in the mainland airline in 2006, they were in for a rude awakening.
Instead of discussing fuel costs, cargo loads or routes, the mainland directors had a much more pedestrian concern - the type of shoes they were wearing.


"The board meeting was conducted in a very informal way and some of the directors were comparing their shoes and exchanging information about the brands," said a transport analyst, who was told about the exchange by a senior Cathay executive.

The incident underscores the huge cultural gap between Cathay - a British colonial icon considered as one of the best-run airlines in the world - and the bureaucratic Air China. While Cathay directors actually have a say in the running of the carrier, directors at mainland airlines are often no more than a rubber stamp for their masters in Beijing.

With Air China this week announcing it would lift its stake in Cathay to almost 30 per cent as part of an eventual plan to take control of the Hong Kong carrier, those differences are about to be writ large. Two more Air China directors are expected to join the Cathay board, bringing the representation to four.

Cathay and Air China come from two radically different corporate worlds. One of the most noticeable differences is the remuneration for top people. Air China chairman Kong Dong has pocketed HK$327,000 from sitting on Cathay's board since May last year - 1.7 times his annual salary at the mainland carrier, according to the company reports.

Zhang Lan, a senior vice-president at Air China, received a HK$529,000 director's fee from Cathay last year. Details of her salary at Air China are not available.

By contrast, Christopher Pratt and Philip Chen Nan-lok, the Cathay executives sitting on Air China's board, received no fee from the mainland carrier. At Cathay, Mr Pratt earned HK$3.46 million as chairman last year while chief executive Tony Tyler received HK$15 million.

Poor compensation at state-owned enterprises is not the only problem for mainland directors. Boards at state-run companies really only have one function - to say yes to the decisions passed down from the ultimate owner in Beijing.

Andrew Tse, who founded Hong Kong Express Airways in 2004, had first-hand experience of this top-down management style after HNA Group, the fourth-largest mainland aviation group, became the carrier's single largest shareholder in 2006.

Hong Kong Express, which is losing millions of dollars a month, applied for a licence to operate a new air-cargo business last month over the objections of Mr Tse, who was concerned the carrier lacked the resources to start freight operations.

"There is no discussion at all ... Whoever is the majority shareholder makes the call," said Mr Tse, who still owns 14.7 per cent of the airline.

In Hong Kong, directors are elected by shareholders at annual general meetings and the management of the company is then appointed by the board. The appointment of senior executives at state-owned enterprises is solely controlled by Beijing.

That may explain the unease being felt at Cathay about the prospects of an Air China takeover. Middle management were more willing to initiate new policy or challenge their bosses if they found decisions were not in the best interests of the company, said one Cathay manager who declined to be named. Such a system would be anathema to a state-run airline.

The cultural differences extend to day-to-day matters. A former executive at Hong Kong Express recalls senior managers communicating with their colleagues by passing around fax paper with notes in red ink. The executive still cannot figure out why the mainland managers did not use the office intranet.

The corporate peculiarities got even stranger earlier this year when cabin crew at Hong Kong Express and sister carrier Hong Kong Airlines were asked to memorise and recite a company creed on command. Staff who failed to recite correctly faced punishment.

While Cathay remains in the hands of Swire Pacific (SEHK: 0019), staff can rest assured they will not be forced to recite a creed anytime soon. But whether Swire remains in control over the long term remains to be seen.

Air China is keen to get its hands on Cathay to boost its international presence and take advantage of the Hong Kong carrier's experience in training and services.

John Slosar, the Putonghua-speaking chief operating officer of Cathay, has reassured staff and investors that the strategy and management would not change despite Air China's increased presence.

At the moment, Air China would probably have to dig pretty deep to further increase its stake in Cathay.

"It remains the firm intention of Swire to remain the single largest shareholder in the airline, as indeed we have been for the past 60 years," Mr Pratt, the chairman of both Swire and Cathay, said last week. "Swire is wholeheartedly committed to the long-term development of the aviation industry in Hong Kong and on the mainland."

Cathay also claims it has a legally binding agreement that Air China has to get the written consent of Swire if it intends to increase its stake to more than 30 per cent.

But in the volatile world of aviation, one should never say never. Swire could change its mind if Cathay encounters another once-in-a-lifetime crisis like the current one it has just flown through. If that crisis was so big that it had to raise funds from its shareholders - Air China and Swire - all bets could be off.

Air China, a state flag carrier with unlimited access to low-cost funding, could easily dilute Swire's holdings if Cathay is in need of a huge amount of capital to pay down debt.

The carrier's net-debt-to-equity ratio increased to 81 per cent from 69 per cent in the first half of the year. Cash outflows of HK$1.2 billion were incurred in the first half because of a HK$2.9 billion cash settlement for fuel hedging losses. The situation is not alarming right now, but if there is any significant reversal in oil price movement, losses could start to mount.

"We have to face the reality that the airline industry is a tough one with very thin profit margins," said Mr Tse, an industry veteran. "The mergers and acquisitions involving airlines in the United States and Europe show that."

Without support from a state-backed carrier, Cathay could lose out under the "open skies" policy that seeks to liberalise routes around the world. Cathay is already losing the one-route, one-carrier privilege on many mainland routes, a protection that was passed down from Hong Kong's former British government.

Hong Kong Dragon Airlines, a subsidiary of Cathay, has a comprehensive network on the mainland but it is reportedly operating at a loss amid fierce competition from mainland carriers.

State-owned mainland carriers have deep enough pockets to increase their fleet and expand their network as part of Beijing's goal of stimulating the nation's economy.

"The room for a purely commercial airline to survive is getting narrower than ever," Mr Tse said.

The mainland is considered one of the aviation industry's growth engines and it would appear Cathay is on the doorstep of a hugely lucrative market. But the cosy position Cathay held in colonial days is truly over.

With cash-rich mainland airlines breathing down its neck and the city's airport seeking closer co-operation with airports in the Pearl River Delta, the road could be even more bumpy ahead for Cathay.

Cathay may be Hong Kong's most recognisable brand. But the world is changing and cultural differences not withstanding, Cathay's future lies more and more across the border.

AD POSSE AD ESSE
25th Aug 2009, 08:19
Instead of discussing fuel costs, cargo loads or routes, the mainland directors had a much more pedestrian concern - the type of shoes they were wearing.


And I always thought that the price of cabbage was more important to them - silly me!!:eek:

Lowkoon
25th Aug 2009, 10:00
Big picture developing, forward looking individuals to say the least! We are certainly in good hands. I used to wonder what the ultimate plans are. I now know there isn't one, other than where we can get Bata scout shoes on sale. Maybe those twin zip grey vinyl numbers that tony wore promoted the discussion?

Safen Up
26th Aug 2009, 00:32
I for one was quite disappointed at the lack of a company creed at Cathay. You really can't get quite enough of them and during moments when I am at a loss; looking for direction, a good creed gets me on my way again. Anyway, in the spirit of our change in shareholders, I would like to propose a company creed and encourage my comrades to do the same. :ok:

Well here it goes:

'All staff strive as one for margins and efficiency'

Hellenic aviator
26th Aug 2009, 23:08
And I always thought that the price of cabbage was more important to them - silly me!!

I thought it was about bicycles wheels :oh:

bumba
27th Aug 2009, 05:22
ATW Daily News (http://www.atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=17657)

..and CX?

Captain Dart
27th Aug 2009, 08:08
Don't laugh, boys and girls, the CX 'Visions and Missions' statement might have to be recited one day! It must have been like this working for Chairman Mao on the collective farm...

nitpicker330
27th Aug 2009, 10:20
I'll give you one guess where they can shove their "creed" :D

flynhigh
27th Aug 2009, 13:43
Who will be flying these cargo planes. would they crew them with CX crew or they will hire from outside.

FlexibleResponse
27th Aug 2009, 14:29
The classic clash of the cultures...

...the communist bullies who attempt to dictate from the top versus the capitalist folks that faithfully work within the established Western system and who know how to make things work...

Hong Kong is the key and the means to make this dichotomy work.

Eddie_Crane
27th Aug 2009, 15:12
Who will be flying these cargo planes. would they crew them with CX crew or they will hire from outside. According to this (http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/08/27/331535/air-china-and-cathay-to-set-up-cargo-jv-by-end-2009.html) it's all still being discussed, at least from the routes/fleet point of view. Nothing about crewing however.
Perhap using some of the CX 744Fs parked up in VCV? If that were a possibility, I wonder if they'd employ existing CX crews or do something along the lines of BA/OpenSkies :ooh:

Flaps10
28th Aug 2009, 03:08
Air China clears air on Cathay

Kathy Wang

Friday, August 28, 2009

Air China (0753) is not planning to increase its stake in Cathay Pacific Airways (0293), easing market concerns over a mandatory general offer if it did.

The airline said it will strengthen cooperation with Cathay by launching a cargo joint venture in Shanghai to increase its presence.

"We are happy with the new shareholding structure and will maintain our stake at the 29.99 percent level. We are going to strictly follow an agreement made between Cathay, Swire Pacific (0019) and us in 2006, and stick to our promise not to increase the stake over the 30 percent level," chairman Kong Dong said in Hong Kong yesterday.

"We believe credibility remains the key to the conduct of any business in the long run. We have given our word and we intend to keep it," said Kong, who was flanked by general manager for strategy and development Yang Zhang and vice president Cheng Fan.

JPMorgan analyst Corrine Png said: "The agreement struck between the three parties stated both Air China and Swire Pacific will not become controlling shareholders of Cathay, but the agreement has no expiry date."

Air China on August 17 said it was spending HK$6.3 billion to buy another 12.49 percent of Cathay from CITIC Pacific (0267), taking its stake to 29.99 per cent. Swire, on the same day, raised its stake to 42 percent from 40 percent.

Citi analyst Ally Ma said: "[It is] a profitable association, more synergies on Hong Kong- China routes. In the long run, coordination in the dual hubs of Beijing and Hong Kong will make the deal correct strategically."

JPMorgan's Png said: "We view Air China's increased stake in Cathay positively and expect it to contribute approximately 25 percent to Air China's pre-tax earnings in two to three years".

Meanwhile, the Beijing-based carrier said its parent company will hold talks with China Eastern Airlines (0670) about the future of its stake in China Eastern, after CEA agreed to merge with Shanghai Airlines.

Kong said Air China needs to face up to the reality that CEA's merger with Shanghai Airlines is a done deal. "But we are open to developing our market in Shanghai's Pudong airport," he said.

Kong said the company will strengthen its cooperation with Cathay and the two are planning a joint cargo venture in Shanghai.

The carrier on Monday reported net profit for the first half jumped 150 percent to 2.8 billion yuan (HK$3.16 billion), including paper-gains on jet fuel hedging.

SIC
28th Aug 2009, 03:19
During SLS / Cos08 negotiations on freighter crewing/seniority - if you could call it that - the AOA pointedly asked the company if they ever plan to start a separate crewing company again - and to give us some sort of guarantee that they would not.

Well the question was laughed out of the room ( along with the question on inflationary adjusted pay ) which clearly indicated that the stated objective of our dear leaders to have us all on one contract may very well change again.

As a result I am convinced that any future developments with Air China etc will result in new contracts for new hires on new lower pay scales.

Go and do a bit of research on how mainland pilots are bonded - they are practically slaves to their companies for life......and I am willing to bet that the CX cadet program soon will include contractual clauses to the same extend with big bonds and very long commitments ....

the reo
28th Aug 2009, 12:44
If you can't see the next ASl, Cathay Freighters or Air Hong Kong in this latest announcement then you need to look harder.
As for bypass pay in a couple of years? As above "look harder"

KABOY
28th Aug 2009, 13:07
The answer is in the % shareholding. If it is less than 50 you can bet your bottom dollar it will be a separate company. Look at AHK, this is no different(49%).

Another airline and another contract, why would you even think for a minute that CX crew will be operating it?:=:=:=

NoAndThen
29th Aug 2009, 01:30
Air China admits wish to lift stake in Cathay
Charlotte So
Updated on Aug 28, 2009

Air China yesterday conceded it had a long-term ambition to lift its stake in Cathay Pacific Airways beyond 30 per cent, triggering a possible takeover offer for the Hong Kong flag carrier.
But the mainland carrier said an agreement for three years capping how much it can own of Cathay means it must persuade Swire Pacific, the airline's controlling shareholder, to allow it to increase its stake.

Air China paid HK$6.34 billion last week to lift its holding in Cathay to 29.99 per cent, moving closer to taking control of the city's only truly global brand.

"It is not only up to us but subject to mutual understanding between Cathay and Air China," chairman Kong Dong said. "It will take time ... we are quite content with what we've achieved now."

The comments were the first made by the Air China chief after the state-owned carrier agreed to raise its stake to just below the 30 per cent that would require a mandatory offer to all Cathay shareholders.

As part of a deal in 2006, both carriers entered into a legally binding agreement that Air China needed written consent from Swire, the single largest shareholder of Cathay, to increase its stake to above 30 per cent.

Swire is believed to be reluctant to allow Air China to gain control of Cathay, considering the large cultural differences between the two carriers.

However, Shanghai's rising threat to Hong Kong as an aviation hub following the merger of China Eastern Airlines Corp and Shanghai Airlines had underscored the importance to Cathay of seeking big partners.

"Hong Kong is too small, and Cathay needs the support of Beijing to substantially increase its competitiveness in the region," said Mr Kong.

A long-awaited cargo venture between Cathay and Air China would be finalised by the end of the year, said Air China executive director Fan Cheng.

China National Aviation Corp, the parent of Air China, is considering exiting its investment in China Eastern after its attempt to take control of the Shanghai-based carrier failed last year.

CNAC, which owns 12.07 per cent of China Eastern's H shares, stopped Singapore Airlines from buying a 24 per cent stake in China Eastern last year.

Air China, the biggest carrier by market capitalisation, reported a profit in recurrent business of 280 million yuan (HK$317.66 million) in the first half, while Cathay is still in the red when oil hedging gains are stripped out.

The Beijing carrier is reaping the benefits of a rebound in domestic demand on the mainland.

"In the long term, we still believe in Cathay, as it is one of the best-run carriers in the world," Mr Kong said.

Cathay owns an 18.1 per cent stake in Air China.

"If Cathay needs to raise funds through a rights issue, we will support them," said Mr Kong.

Air China will emerge as the second-largest shareholder after acquiring stakes from Citic Pacific.

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