View Full Version : Airline Partnership PERMANANT contracts
Ok guys here is a question.. How many of you guys who have spent lots of money going through these TR and Line training schemes have actually got a permanant contract recently???
jet.man123
3rd Aug 2009, 21:07
To be frank I doubt if you find out, "permanent" could be seasonal just rolling from winter to summer etc.. I guess you could ask the same of the Palm Air guys, is a six month contract permanent? Anyway, how about all the 500 hr plus TCX guys coming back on the market.. shall we assume TCX are in the same league! Lets face it, whats more attractive, sitting around moaning or actually flying, hmmm, tough one that!
Groundloop
4th Aug 2009, 10:27
I guess you could ask the same of the Palm Air guys, is a six month contract permanent?
Who are Palm Air? If you mean Palmair based in BOH - they don't employ pilots. Flight crew are supplied by Astraeus. Palmair only employ cabin crew.
If there is a Palm Air then please ignore this post!
Kirks gusset
4th Aug 2009, 12:00
And the point is? the debate was about permanent contracts, not for whom they work or how they get there!
Groundloop
5th Aug 2009, 12:53
The point, gusset, is if the reference IS to Palmair - as Astraeus have a 3-year contract with Palmair why would pilots be on only six month contracts?
jet.man123
5th Aug 2009, 16:56
Maybe Mr Groundloop as the airlines get crews through agencies and after a period they can then employ the guys directly..big saving .. or maybe because the work patten for summer/winter requires only xx crew.. or maybe because they can! I am aware of several AEU pilots that were on rolling six month contracts, this is quite normal.. and with respect.. if pilots have to be away from home/loved ones etc for these contracts they often only want 6 months so they can look around.. Lastly, the agencies sometimes only want crews tied up for six months so they can renegotiate. A few years ago some of the Man AEU crews were on temporary release from Lingus and you may find this is the route they have to go down to get A320 crew as well. Feast or Famine
Kirks gusset
6th Aug 2009, 20:42
Groundloop, I think Jetman has put it in a nutshell, perhaps the point also missed is that airlines recruit temporary staff while they change their types and train crews, Olympic, Easyjet, for example 737 to Airbus, need crews off-line to convert but still need to operate the routes. Some AEU crews are on six month contracts.. or so they claim!