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anartificialhorizon
31st Jul 2009, 08:54
What's the truth in this?

Seems to be two very different accounts of events reported....

28 July 2009
Irish Times
A RYANAIR pilot diverted his aircraft from Shannon airport to Cork airport last Saturday night following three unsuccessful attempts to land at Shannon. A spokeswoman for Ryanair said the pilot had been unable to land because of adverse weather conditions. However, the Shannon Airport Authority said the airport was operating normally at the time.

Flight FR7253 left Alicante at 9.50pm last Saturday and was due to land in Shannon at 23.50pm. However, after three attempts at landing the aircraft, the pilot announced he was diverting to Cork. Several passengers left the flight at Cork, but those who remained on-board were flown back to Shannon.

A spokeswoman for Ryanair said the flight landed in Shannon shortly before 2am and that this landing and the earlier landing in Cork were both completed safely. However a passenger on board who contacted The Irish Timessaid the pilot said he had been unable to land on the first two occasions because of problems with high cross winds and some lights not operating on the runway. Following the third attempt the pilot said another aircraft had crossed his path on the runway, the passenger said.

The Ryanair spokeswoman said the reason the pilot did not land in Shannon and instead flew to Cork was because of adverse weather conditions. However the airport authority said no other aircraft had difficulty landing and that another Ryanair flight landed just minutes before. “We were operating as normal on Saturday night. The airport was not closed at any time and no other flight was unable to land,” a spokeswoman said. She added that there had been no report of a “near miss” with another aircraft and that there had been no “unsafe activity” involving another flight at that time or any time on Saturday.

EatMyShorts!
31st Jul 2009, 09:08
Hmmm, where are the crosswinds above limits?

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# Query made at 07/31/2009 09:05:53 UTC
# Time interval: from 07/25/2009 20:00 to 07/25/2009 23:00 UTC
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# EINN, Shannon Airport (Ireland)
# WMO index: 03962
# Latitude 52-42N. Longitude 008-55W. Altitude 14 m.
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# METAR/SPECI from EINN
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200907252300 METAR EINN 252300Z 13017KT 9999 -RA FEW016 SCT028 BKN090
14/13 Q1010 TEMPO 5000 BKN010=
200907252230 METAR EINN 252230Z 14017KT 8000 RA FEW010 BKN060 14/13 Q1011
TEMPO 5000 BKN010=
200907252200 METAR EINN 252200Z 14016KT 8000 RA FEW015 SCT023 BKN035 15/13
Q1011 TEMPO 5000 BKN010=
200907252130 METAR EINN 252130Z 15013KT 7000 RA FEW015 BKN023 15/13 Q1013
TEMPO 5000 BKN010=
200907252100 METAR EINN 252100Z 14010KT 9999 -RA FEW016 BKN024 BKN060
15/13 Q1012 TEMPO 5000 BKN010=
200907252030 METAR EINN 252030Z 14016KT 9999 -RA FEW018 SCT023 BKN070
17/13 Q1012 NOSIG=
200907252000 METAR EINN 252000Z 150118KT 9999 FEW018 BKN070 17/12 Q1013
NOSIG=

# No short TAF reports from EINN in databse.

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# large TAF from EINN
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200907252300 TAF EINN 252300Z 2600/2624 15018KT 9999 SCT010 BKN020
TEMPO 2600/2604 5000 RA BKN008
BECMG 2600/2602 19018KT
BECMG 2604/2607 19015KT BKN025
TEMPO 2607/2618 21017G28KT SHRA BKN020CB
BECMG 2616/2619 26015KT=

The crew must have had a reason not to land at EINN, but the wind does not really seem to be the real reason, or what am I overlooking?

Artie Fufkin
31st Jul 2009, 09:14
Maybe a typo but the last METAR wind reads 150118KT !

Wouldn't fancy landing in that myself!

Austrian Simon
31st Jul 2009, 10:11
First go-around because approach not stabilized, second go-around because of wind gust, third go-around because preceding traffic did not vacate in time. 4th approach was offered by ATC, but declined by crew.

CarbHeatIn
31st Jul 2009, 11:03
I posted a link to the Irish Times article on the day it was published but a mod saw fit to delete the post.

I Just Drive
31st Jul 2009, 17:48
Sounds like they need a beer not a PPrune trial.

WindSheer
2nd Aug 2009, 00:10
First go-around because approach not stabilized, second go-around because of wind gust, third go-around because preceding traffic did not vacate in time. 4th approach was offered by ATC, but declined by crew.

The crew got it bang on!!

Bearcat
2nd Aug 2009, 07:05
sounds like they made a dogs of the 1st 2 approaches.....wind wasnt too sporty. all ended safe which is the bottom line.