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Gear-down
14th Jul 2009, 16:28
1. Can anyone recommend a CPL(A) full-time groundschool course???

2. After obtaining an MECIR rating, does flying a pressurised centre-line thrust twin still count for instrument twin hours - and would this be looked on poorly by prospective employers?

3. Would European ATPL be preferential to ozzie one in the first instance, if one is intending to fly in other countries (specifically UK)...in the future???

Sorry that's four questions...

Any info greatly appreciated. :)

GD.

ZappBrannigan
15th Jul 2009, 03:51
2. After obtaining an MECIR rating, does flying a pressurised centre-line thrust twin still count for instrument twin hours - and would this be looked on poorly by prospective employers?It's a weird one - yes, they are M/E hours, and if flown IF/IFR then you're logging M/E hours for that particular type of flight. However - you can fly centreline-thrust aircraft under the IFR without a MECIR. So technically, with a SECIR, you can log 100 hours "twin" IFR if it's all done in a C337.

Centreline-thrust aircraft seem to be a really divisive thing, in terms of whether it's "real" twin time or not. In an engine failure in a C337 (particularly the rear) you're faced with a very underperforming aircraft which will get you in a lot of trouble if not handled properly. In the event of an EFATO on a hot day, I almost consider the front engine to do little more than extend gliding range a fair bit. On the other side of the coin, there's no chance of ending up on your back (unless you pull back a little hard on the stick) - and you won't have to worry about dealing with assymetrics in IMC.

I always disagree with the use of the term "looked upon poorly by employers" - this sort of implies that you won't get a job because you have certain hours in your logbook. More applicable would probably be "not looked upon as well as assymetric twin time" - and this would probably be true. Poorly? No - 100 hours IFR in a 337 is better than 100 hours IFR in a 172, which is better than no IFR hours at all.

Maxweight
16th Jul 2009, 04:54
3. Would European ATPL be preferential to ozzie one in the first instance, if one is intending to fly in other countries (specifically UK)...in the future???

Yes if u have a Euro atpl you can go anywhere(within Europe)make sure you have or can easily get an EU passport though.

Max:ok:

tmpffisch
16th Jul 2009, 05:09
1. Can anyone recommend a CPL(A) full-time groundschool course???


None better than Bob Tait's aviation school - www.bobtait.com.au (http://www.bobtait.com.au) He writes the theory books that the majority of us use, might as well go straight to the source! Accomadation can be arranged for you too.

brns2
16th Jul 2009, 15:19
"Yes if u have a Euro atpl you can go anywhere(within Europe)"

Disagree completely. I looked into this a while ago. I have both Aus and UK passports and considered getting a JAA ATPL licence, thinking it would open many doors in Europe.

If you look into it, each company in Europe want you to have their countries JAA issued licence.

So as much as you think the JAA and EU are all one, they are still very much independant.

Certain training schools (one at jandakot) will have you thinking otherwise!!

Maxweight
17th Jul 2009, 00:31
Thats news!I knew that several years ago the UK preferred people to have their atpl but was not aware that it also applied to other Euro countries. Kind of defeats the original purpose of the JAA lic does'nt it?
Max

whiskey1
17th Jul 2009, 01:49
IF you have a UK issued JAA CPL or ATPL you can simply swap it for any one of the 26 other countries CPL or ATPL.
It is simply a paperwork issue to change the State of Licence issue.
Mutual recognition is here on the CAA website http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/srg_fcl_mutual_recognition.pdf
Yes if you fly for an Irish Airline you need an Irish issued licence so they can place ratings on it. Just take your UK JAA licence in and swap it over. Same story for a German Airline or where ever. Just swap it and pay the fee.
European law requires mutual recognition of professional qualifications. So a German qualified Doctor can practice anywhere in Europe. They may be required to register in that country but do not require any addition Training or Exams. Same for pilots.

JCJ
25th Jul 2009, 03:28
1. Can anyone recommend a CPL(A) full-time groundschool course???

What tmpffisch said!! Bob Tait's course is very good. Did some of his CPL(A) and the IREX course. Highly recommended.:ok: