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cvg2iln
14th Jul 2009, 10:14
DHL: Time I think..... to end the failed experiment of globalization and with malice to forcibly tell the off-spring of the fuhrer where to shove it.

DHL RUINED LIVES (http://dhlruinedlives.com/)

pink tulip
14th Jul 2009, 13:16
DHL offered $75 million for pilot's severence. To this day, the pilots have received nothing--more corporate greed. After many years of dedication to this company, the pilots were put onto the street without anything. I believe the first round of furloughs were in February, and still are ongoing.
The pilots deserve what they were promised.

boingdrvr
14th Jul 2009, 15:52
Isn't the money there??

DHL/DP put up the money, but left it to ABXA management as to how the money is to be distributed. Mgt wants the money to prop up the pension fund because they left it underfunded. The pilots want the money for severance. Both parties are embroiled in end game, across the board, concessionary contract talks.

So it looks like the culprit here is not DHL/DP, but ABXA management.

6000PIC
14th Jul 2009, 18:06
Another culprit is the protectionist and antiquated airline ownership laws in the United States that prevented DHL from entering the US market on a level playing field with FedEx and UPS. DHL can be blamed for it`s poor execution of a flawed business plan , but shouldn`t be held accountable for the results of a flawed and biased system. Operating a fleet of inefficient DC-9F`s with highly paid pilots up against the likes of Fred Smith and his Republican croonies , USPS and UPS was bound for failure , when the field is tilted overtly in their favour. My condolences to the victims in this sad episode , but blame should be more accurately directed. Dragging up historical references to the fuhrer only makes your argument appear vindictive and prejudicial to say the least.

Caboclo
14th Jul 2009, 23:11
While not ignoring or defending the very wide range of corporate greed and malfeasance, perhaps it's time for employees in general and pilots in particular to quit whining and move on with their lives. Jobs come and go, life has it's ups and downs. For pilots in particular, being shocked at losing a job is kind of silly. We all know the realities of the industry.

BBFive
15th Jul 2009, 01:08
--F.O. D.B.--

jetliu
15th Jul 2009, 01:45
Currently, the aircraft flight to PVG from HKG is Air Hongkong,it is too samll one, and the logo "DHL" print on the craftbody is too small, when will the DHL fleets flight to PVG? Let me keep the finger crossed...

sapco2
15th Jul 2009, 03:04
A good post 6000PIC, and very tactfully put. I believe those sentiments are likely to be echoed across the globe. My condolences for all those who have lost their jobs!

Da Do Ron Ron
15th Jul 2009, 09:44
Air Hong Kong is a JV between DHL and Cathay Pacific and operate A300-600F's throughout S.E.Asia from their HKG HUB. I am sure larger aircraft are planned, in fact they were operating a Polar B747-400F on the HKG/SIN sector. Increasing the frequency of daily flights is the usual route taken by DHL.

jetliu
17th Jul 2009, 02:07
tkssss Sir Da Do Ron Ron ,:).

Trash 'n' Navs
20th Jul 2009, 12:55
6000PIC & sapco2,

Those sentiments aren't being echoed in my world. As the old saying goes, "a poor craftsman blames his tools". DHL Mgmt knew the game and knew the rules before they chose to play. Therefore they should have forseen the likely obstacles and had a plan to deal with it.

shouldn`t be held accountable for the results of a flawed and biased system

The "system" was in place well before DHL entered the game so from the outside looking in, DHL Mgmt either failed to plan properly for its foray in to the US or failed in it's execution. Others have entered and survived. IMHO, those who chose to operate the airframes and/or the routes should be held to account.

:=

Flying_Frisbee
21st Jul 2009, 08:13
Those sentiments aren't being echoed in my world. As the old saying goes, "a poor craftsman blames his tools". DHL Mgmt knew the game and knew the rules before they chose to play. Therefore they should have forseen the likely obstacles and had a plan to deal with it.

It's not as simple as that. Deutsche Post looked at the takeover of DHL in the global context, not just the US internal operation.
They were coping with the US's anti-competitive protectionism reasonably well, but the global slowdown changed all that.
The fact remains that US protectionism has backfired in this case.

Da Do Ron Ron
29th Jul 2009, 11:37
Has the Hub move from ILN to CVG been completed ?

boingdrvr
29th Jul 2009, 14:17
Yes, it's done.

BBFive
29th Jul 2009, 20:29
It's not as simple as that. Deutsche Post looked at the takeover of DHL in the global context, not just the US internal operation.
They were coping with the US's anti-competitive protectionism reasonably well, but the global slowdown changed all that.
The fact remains that US protectionism has backfired in this case.
:confused:
Do you actually have a clue what you are talking about or are you just blowing wind???

Flying_Frisbee
30th Jul 2009, 06:30
Yesterday 22:29 BBfive
Do you actually have a clue what you are talking about or are you just blowing wind???

If you have a point to make, make it.