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JimBall
16th Jun 2009, 11:53
...and before you know what's happening......

The Northern Ireland public has donated £700,000 for a helicopter air ambulance which has yet to get off the ground.
Most of the money collected by the charity - 90% in its first year - has gone on wages and administration.
The health minister, Michael McGimpsey, said he was bemused as to why the money was being collected for something he believes there is no demand for.
The Ireland Air Ambulance Alpha 5 charity has an unusual genesis.
One of those who helped set it up, Mark Sellers, freely admits the idea was hatched during an evening drinking with friends.
"I was involved with the London Air Ambulance until 2005," he said.
"I came over here for a wedding, got drunk and was asked to bring an air ambulance here as it's the only place in the UK that does not have one."
Since then, the fund-raising arm of the charity has taken off.
Charities are a multi-million pound business and the Ireland Air Ambulance (IAA) is one of the fastest growing in Northern Ireland.



Full story here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8101691.stm)

irelandairambulance
18th Jun 2009, 07:22
Statement Issued on behalf of the Ireland Air Ambulance



16 June 2009



Dr Gwyn Beattie MB BCh Bao MRCS, Clinical Director at Ireland Air Ambulance (IAA) said:


“IAA has always been completely transparent about all aspects of its operations and publishes its audited financial results on its website.




“As the only region in the UK without Air Ambulance cover we continue to find great support for our plans to provide a service for the region.


“Like any charity or organisation, we anticipated that start-up costs in the first trading years would be high.


“In our first year, 90% of income was spent on operational costs such as salaries, premises, travel expenses, professional fees. In the last three months this figure has been reduced to 68% and we expect it to fall much further still in coming years.


“IAA receives no other funding outside public donations and collects a large proportion of its funds from some 13,000 collection boxes dispersed throughout the region. The regular collection, counting and banking of these boxes requires considerable manpower.


“I would like to thank all our fundraisers, volunteers and other stakeholders for their work to date and assure them that the vision of the IAA will soon become a reality.


“We envisage signing a lease deal with a helicopter firm in the coming weeks and will continue our negotiations with the NI Ambulance Service and health officials to ensure the integration of the IAA with emergency planning procedures.


“As a surgeon, working and living in Northern Ireland I am confident that our continuing fundraising and support from the community will see the air ambulance soon begin operating in the region.”

irelandairambulance
18th Jun 2009, 07:38
17 June 2009


Dr Gwyn Beattie MB BCh Bao MRCS, Clinical Director at Ireland Air Ambulance (IAA) said:



"Over the past number of days Ireland Air Ambulance has been contacting its stakeholders to underline its continued commitment to securing the service for the region and explaining that the high start-up costs involved in establishing a charity are not unusual.



"This was confirmed by the charities commission for Northern Ireland who yesterday confirmed that "...a charity may spend more on its set-up than it will do in later stages of its development and operation."



"Ireland Air Ambulance is in the process of appointing external consultants to review the operations of the charity and ensure the business model going forward is robust and best serves our aim of providing an air ambulance to serve the people. "



Ends

For further information please contact:
Stephen Smith, Stakeholder Communications, Tel: 02890 339949

Barshifter
18th Jun 2009, 15:16
BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | Family wants ambulance money back (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8105901.stm)

Family wants ambulance money back

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45938000/jpg/_45938805_airambulance.jpg
The charity released a fresh statement on Wednesday afternoon


A County Armagh couple who raised £65,000 for the Ireland Air Ambulance (IAA) in memory of their dead son say they want the money returned to them.
This is until they are satisfied with how the charity is spending its money.
Peter and Helen Fearon said they were "very disappointed" to learn that the charity spent 90% of its donations in its first year on wages and overheads.
The charity has not said whether or not it is prepared to give back the money raised by the Fearons from Drumintee.
"Air Ambulance has been contacting its stakeholders to underline its continued commitment to securing the service for the region and explaining that the high start-up costs involved in establishing a charity are not unusual," said Dr Gwyn Beattie, clinical director at IAA on Wednesday afternoon.
"This was confirmed by the Charities Commission for Northern Ireland who yesterday confirmed that a 'charity may spend more on its set-up than it will do in later stages of its development and operation'.
"This afternoon Ireland Air Ambulance spoke with Peter and Helen Fearon who are generous benefactors to the charity and offered to meet them to discuss their concerns.
"Ireland Air Ambulance is in the process of appointing external consultants to review the operations of the charity and ensure the business model going forward is robust and best serves our aim of providing an air ambulance to serve the people."

zhishengji751
18th Jun 2009, 15:46
yeah.. bit of a public relations problem.

fkelly
18th Jun 2009, 20:50
was asked to bring an air ambulance here as it's the only place in the UK that does not have one

Top marks for research then. On a less sarcastic note, how much genuine objective research is done before an AA service is set up as opposed to raising enthusiastic support and subsequently justifying the operation? Don't jump on this as an AA knocking post, some areas have a much more apparent need for a dedicated service whereas others have both AA and PAOC units yet could easily combine as per the police HEMS units. Or is it more about emergency service managements being unable to work together?

jellywalker
6th Jul 2009, 01:52
News report that the Aviation Director of the Ireland Air Ambulance has resigned due to stress amid reports of bad accounting and finances. They've reportedly spent 90% of £900,000 donated on wages and admin.

Since when has refuse collector been a pre-requisite for the posotion Aviation Director of a charity.

BBC - BBC Newsline - Air ambulance (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsline/air_ambulance_index.shtml)

Guess Northern Ireland won't be getting an Air Ambulance.

holybejaysus
6th Jul 2009, 03:24
Guys, from what I can tell here, there are TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE AIR AMBULANCE CHARITIES INVOLVED HERE, AND ONE IS BEING BLAMED FOR THE OTHER!

One is the Ireland Air Ambulance, which was to be based in Northern Ireland, and is currently involved in an expenses controversy
Ireland Air Ambulance | Home (http://www.irelandairambulance.org/)

The other is the ALL Ireland Air Ambulance, which is a Southern Ireland based charity, and is not involved in any way, shape, or form with the above!
All Ireland Air Ambulance - Home (http://www.allirelandairambulance.ie/)

I know it's easy for the two to get mixed up as the only difference between them at first glance is the word "ALL", but we should really be careful about pointing the finger at the wrong people.

THE ALL Ireland Air Ambulance has not been involved in any of the current controversy whatsoever. Mods should remove the above posts that seems to mix up the two charities, and explain with a sticky perhaps? This could really damage the All Ireland Air Ambulance charity unless clarified.

Senior Pilot
6th Jul 2009, 06:06
THE ALL Ireland Air Ambulance has not been involved in any of the current controversy whatsoever. Mods should remove the above posts that seems to mix up the two charities

Done: thanks for pointing out the difference :ok:

jellywalker
6th Jul 2009, 12:20
Holybejaysus, I agree, the charity in the ROI (AIAA) has nothing to do with the charity in the North, Alpha 5 (IAA).

The AIAA has contracted with Bond helicopters, has a chairman, a full board of trustees and is transparent. Three aircraft are forecasted for the whole of Ireland. It’s all on their web-site.

The Alpha 5 (IAA) is riddled with controversy; it’s spent 90% of the publics’ donations on admin and wages. The media are investigating it and people are asking for their money back.

Ireland air ambulance, sorry but me thinks I smell a rat!! Your Aviation Director was a refuse collector; your Ground Director has his wife as a trustee (see audit on IAA web-site) and your Clinical Director is now spokesman. As directors their all paid by the charity, who are appointed by the trustees who decide what they’re paid. Just ask the Ground Directors’ wife.

Fkelly, Air Ambulance is long overdue in Ireland (North and South). It’s a shame that one charity is in the media for all the wrong reasons. Judging by the public support and the amount raised, the people of Northern Ireland are fully behind this service. It’s a shame for the public and us pilots that the IAA (Alpha 5) service will not get off the ground.

:*:*:*

AussieAndy
12th Jul 2009, 02:06
Can anyone confirm knowing this chap? There is mention that 'having been involved with London HEMS' he now is establishing a similar service in NI. Has anyone heard of Gerry?

Also, is there a reference to the Aviation Director being once a Refuse Collector as I have searched their website and cannot find the link?

The Trustee Report from August 2008 states that they are one year ahead of schedule, meaning they are hoping to be airborne in June 2009.

Something definitely stinks here!

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perhaps someone in the know from Sloanes could shine a light on it...

zhishengji751
12th Jul 2009, 03:05
Can anyone confirm knowing this chap? There is mention that 'having been involved with London HEMS' he now is establishing a similar service in NI. Has anyone heard of Gerry?


Mr Jerry Carr (Alpha 5 Ireland Air Ambulance):
A long time ago, my friend worked with London air ambulance and he asked me to help them with an internal matter. I come from a computing background, so I was able to assist. I was invited to meet the medical crew and the aviation crew, and I was overwhelmed by the good work that they did.


source:
Northern Ireland Assembly HSSPS Committee moe (http://www.niassembly.gov.uk/health/2007mandate/moe/080124_alpha.htm)

jackjack08
12th Jul 2009, 04:56
Why is there a picture of Yorkshire Air Ambulance MD902 on this thread ? :=

HillerBee
12th Jul 2009, 07:32
Read the document, it's clear the people involved haven't got a clue where they are talking about, yet they managed to raise a lot of funds and pay themselfs nice salaries......

Bladecrack
15th Jul 2009, 22:10
I heard that the "Ireland Air Ambulance" helicopter simulator was at The Highland Games at Glenarm Castle this week. Looks like business as usual despite the recent controversy... Has anyone had a go on the sim?

Oh, and I also heard that the PSNI helicopter airlifted a casualty to hospital in Belfast after a road accident on Monday, one of only a handful of times they have done this sort of task, so perhaps there is more of a need for an Irish HEMS service than some think. :hmm:

ChristopherRobin
16th Jul 2009, 21:30
why not get the Irish Coastguard to do it? their SAR aircraft have all the HEMS equipment needed already on board.

Bladecrack
17th Jul 2009, 00:36
SAR services (in the ROI) are provided by CHC Ireland on contract from the Irish government and have been contracted out for quite a few years now. Also I doubt the S61 is the best choice for the HEMS role. I believe two of the IAC AW139s can be configured for HEMS but this is not their primary role, and they do not provide coverage for N.Ireland anyway.

Coconutty
17th Jul 2009, 17:33
Why is there a picture of Yorkshire Air Ambulance MD902 on this thread ?

Because it's a straight lift from the BBC story where the picture properties show it described as an "Air Ambulance - Generic" :rolleyes:

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/coconut11/Coconutty.jpg

Bladecrack
16th Apr 2010, 18:08
NI air ambulance charity 'grounded'

An air ambulance charity that collected more than £750,000 has been wound up without ever landing a helicopter.

It said it is reforming in another guise with new personnel and will continue to raise money.
The chief executive of the Charities Commission has welcomed the move.
Last year, a BBC investigation revealed that 90% of the money collected by the Ireland Air Ambulance Charity in its first year went on wages and overheads.
Its recent accounts show it has only £65,000 left out of almost £700,000 collected over the past two years.
It now says that the association known as Ireland Air Ambulance has been dissolved.

The existing trustees and some of the staff have been stood down and a new company has been formed which will retain the old name.
The chief executive of the Charities Commission, Frances McCandless, said the charity has changed from being an unincorporated organisation to being a company limited by guarantee, which she said is "a good thing."
"It means the organisation submits details of its directors and accounts to Companies House and they are available for public scrutiny.
"We have met over the past few months with Ireland Air Ambulance following concerns that had been raised by the media.
"We have given them advice and we have pointed out what would be best practice."

Dissolution
In the 12 months up until 2009, the accounts show the organisation raised £479,000, and spent £387,265 most of it on what are described as "charitable purposes." Most of this expenditure went on staff and fundraising.
Nick Taylor, a business advisor for the newly constituted charity said the association known as the Ireland Air Ambulance has gone through the formal process of dissolution.
Its existing trustees, director, and some employees have all stood down, he said.
According to Mr Taylor, the charity is now being run by a new board of eight directors drawn from the business community who want to move the aims of the charity forward.
A new interim chief executive has been appointed.
He said all the assets of the IAA will be transferred to a new company which will retain the name Ireland Air Ambulance.
He said he is unable to say how much this is likely to be, but it is thought its could be less than £65,000 pounds - a small fraction of the total money raised.
:rolleyes: :yuk:

17th Apr 2010, 06:14
How is it that no-one is going to prison for this fraud perpetrated on the NI populace?

BodyprojectLiverpool
17th Apr 2010, 07:34
My company is providing business advice to Ireland Air Ambulance. Both we and their auditors have had to satisfy ourselves in terms of matters related to compliance including matters that would result in legal recourse.

In terms of the reporting which I think prompts your comments could I ask that you first read the statements posted at Ireland Air Ambulance (http://irelandairambulance.wordpress.com) and then compare that to the way the BBC reports and spot the difference. You may then reach a different conclusion and it might demonstrate how the modern media including the ever reputable BBC never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

However, if you do have any evidence of illegal practices by any IAA employee or trustees then please report that to the PSNI (from May the Charity Commission of Northern Ireland will have investigative powers).

And through PPRUNE please all read the statement and recognise this week is a significant step.

BodyprojectLiverpool
17th Apr 2010, 07:39
My company is the business adviser to Ireland Air Ambulance and could I suggest you all read the statements at Ireland Air Ambulance (http://irelandairambulance.wordpress.com) before offering your views based on the BBC reporting. In modern society the media never lets the facts get in the way of a good story and if you want to believe all you read and hear then good luck

I thought this site was moderated!!!!

BodyprojectLiverpool
17th Apr 2010, 13:30
Could I ask that people posting on this thread read the facts at Ireland Air Ambulance (http://irelandairambulance.wordpress.com)

It may come as a shock to realise that the great BBC may actually selectively present stories - the question is why??? read the statements and then compare it to the BBC and then make your mind up.

Buzzar905
25th Apr 2010, 16:51
If everyone was aware of the opposition to an air ambulance by the powers at be then it makes a lot more sense as to why there is selective journalism.
There are currently 3 organisations putting their cases forward to the Department of Health and Social Services against it's established opinion that an air ambulance isn't necessary.This is according to the targets that the Northern Ireland Ambulance Service have to meet.
If there had been provable or definitive fraud involved then I can assure you that the PSNI would have had been at their door at the first opportunity.

Bladecrack
7th May 2010, 22:11
It may come as a shock to realise that the great BBC may actually selectively present stories - the question is why???

Care to elaborate BPL? I saw the TV program and I thought it was fair and balanced, and a public interest story which needed to be told, and I'm no fan of the BBC.

I think the facts speak for themselves on this one. There was never going to be an air ambulance in N.I. the way this "charity" was being operated. The public were fleeced and the "directors" lined their pockets and walked away. It was a shameful way to waste donors money, a total and utter disgrace. Why don't you publish the amount the directors were taking as a salary?

The "new" company directors may be respectable pillars of the community with good intentions, but the damage has been done. This project is doomed...

BC

Ian Corrigible
19th Aug 2010, 12:23
Air ambulance charity founder quits to set up rival operation
The Irish Times (http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0818/1224277072520.html) - Wednesday, August 18, 2010

INTERNAL WRANGLING within Ireland’s first proposed dedicated air ambulance service has seen the charity’s founding member parting company with the struggling organisation to set up his own operation.

Derek Rowe, who was instrumental in founding All Ireland Air Ambulance, has expressed disappointment at how the charity is being run. Since he was replaced as chairman earlier this year, Mr Rowe has been involved in other charity work and has now confirmed plans to establish what could yet be Ireland’s first air ambulance service.

Mr Rowe established All Ireland Air Ambulance following the death of a close friend in a road crash near Killarney, Co Kerry. It took six hours for a road ambulance to get his friend to a Dublin hospital.

It was envisaged that the service would be operational by the summer of 2008. However, that launch date did not materialise. It had said it would launch up to four air ambulances to cover the island of Ireland.

Several attempts to launch the service have failed as the charity struggled to raise the €85,000 per month required to operate it.

In February last year, the organisers said they hoped to launch the service in the summer of 2009. Plans to launch on March 1st and then in April of this year were also deferred.

Since parting with the charity, Mr Rowe says he has secured a helicopter and hangar, as well as the support of a prominent Galway businessman, and is in talks to establish the People’s Children’s Air Ambulance.

A spokeswoman for All Ireland Air Ambulance said: “Unfortunately the launch didn’t occur in April due to a number of reasons. We don’t yet have the full approval of the HSE and funding is still an issue.

“Bond Air Services have committed to bringing the first air ambulance in September of this year but the official launch date has yet to be announced,” she said.
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I/C

holybejaysus
19th Aug 2010, 15:29
Thanks for the update Ian, although can I suggest you put the link in here?

http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/361723-all-ireland-air-ambulance-publicity-launch-2.html#post5679328

(Actually I'll just put the link in there myself.)

The All Ireland Air Ambulance is the one that your post refers to.

There was another one in Northern Ireland called the Ireland Air Ambulance (since liquidated), which tends to confuse things a bit....

Ian Corrigible
19th Aug 2010, 15:58
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:TK8NkUCrqeipfM:http://mccormicky.com/tiresome/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/homer-doh.jpg
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I/C

PANews
6th Dec 2012, 23:01
Is the 'dead' thing rising again?

A Merry Christmas message was tweeted this evening...with hopes expressed for 2013

'The team at Air Ambulance Ireland would like to wish all our supporters a very Merry Christmas and all the best... The team at Air... | Facebook (http://fb.me/26K6hcG8U)'