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norwester33
4th Jul 2009, 20:24
howdy everyone
Have posted before regarding a small NZ company,lookin at gettin into this line of work (Nz or OZ operator)as a good hour builder but some mates already doin it say that the industry is very quiet due to the recession worldwide etc and wont come rite for at least a year,also am aiming for an airline type job down the track ,how does this type of flying help as it is all VFR work ets,your comments would be appreciated.
Thankyou
Lasiorhinus
5th Jul 2009, 01:47
In case your full stop key is broken, here are a few you can copy and paste.
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Tinstaafl
5th Jul 2009, 04:10
Now that made me laugh! You missed one or two punctuation marks and the odd missing letter though.
SystemsAreGo
5th Jul 2009, 06:55
From what I have heard it is good fun, low level, hands on flying, in some nice machines. I assume we are talking about the same NZ company. Your first 1000hr in any instance is likely to be made up of SE VFR flying, so don't be put off.
Sounds like it's not the only aviation industry which has taken a hit..
ZK-NSN
5th Jul 2009, 09:01
Tinstaafi, lasiorhinus: Go forth and seek lives.
compressor stall
5th Jul 2009, 10:30
ZK et al - I think you'll find Ole Tinny and Lasiorhinus belong to that minority breed of Professional Pilots. Membership is always open; there are selection criteria though. :hmm:
Maxweight
6th Jul 2009, 01:13
Yeah norwester it is all vfr work and not much of an opportunity to gather night hours either! Knew some blokes that did this type of work but they were not airline aspirants, so get your total time up and get out if you are interested in airlines.As far as money goes it was high paying relatively to charter!
Max:ok:
aileron_69
6th Jul 2009, 10:22
It is all VFR work but flying to within 5 metres of a line will sharpen your skills for following an ILS and all the other many acronyms associated with IFR.
You might be pushing S*&t up hill to land a job tho, its been lean pickings this year. Where did you get the idea about flying some nice machines tho? The majority of the ones I have flown tend to be somewhat lacking in the creature comforts of many charter aircraft to put it politely. That said there are some charter aircraft that would be best suited to an aviation graveyard so you win some you lose some. You will get a few hours, you will get stuffed around, and its pretty damn cut throat out there right now
twista
7th Jul 2009, 00:04
A few words of advice. Don't waste ur time with K.A. The pay the lowest out of any survey operator and the conditions are ****e. Be prepared to put ur license/ life on the line if you do!
SystemsAreGo
7th Jul 2009, 05:44
A few words of advice. Don't waste ur time with K.A. The pay the lowest out of any survey operator and the conditions are ****e. Be prepared to put ur license/ life on the line if you do!
Best pay in GA by a long shot. What survey company would pay more than them? Your last sentence is a big call - have you previously worked for them?
aileron_69
7th Jul 2009, 09:48
Best pay in GA by a long shot. What survey company would pay more than them? Your last sentence is a big call - have you previously worked for them?
Um...there are worse paying Survey operators, but I know a lot of the boys who fly survey for NZ and Oz companies, myself included, and my wages are approximately 20% more than the top paid pilots in KA. There is another operator that pays 3% more than our company. Im not naming names but just thought i'd put that out there for you.
multime
8th Jul 2009, 10:07
Love survey work.
Great job, challenging at times, away from home, not an ideal family mans job,3 weeks home in 12 months. But having said that its paid for a house.
Beats an Ag industry devastated by mother nature.
Cheers
M:ok:
185skywagon
8th Jul 2009, 10:43
Hey Multime, things seem to be on the up for you. :ok:
Glad to see it.
Where are you working now??(roughly).
185
multime
8th Jul 2009, 13:00
C185 - A long list. Majority is WA based, but here goes. Maryborough QLD, Mt Isa, Alice, Tyabb Vic, Cooberpedy, Kalgoorlie, Woomera, PortHedland, Karratha, Kimberlys, Bunbury, Tindal, Balladonia, Halls Creek, Eucla, Ceduna, Pannawonica, Sandfire, and of course middle of nowhere as standard. etc,etc.
Love it.
Takes it,s toll on the relationship stakes though.
Great company and people. (no names)
Government Geo science work is picking up, although the mining sector as a whole has gone very quiet, hopefully not for long.
Beats ag, it,s a regular income. Although spent a fair while home over Xmas.
Paid to fly, only. That hurts when not working. But its still good.
Hope things are aok in the CVLE.
Regards
M:ok:
twista
8th Jul 2009, 14:12
SystemsAreGo (http://www.pprune.org/members/202163-systemsarego)- Do your homework bud. It's pretty simple, 200hr pilots will do anything to fly. Sure its good money for g.a but your seriously putting your ass on the line to make it.
No I haven't worked for them. Just talk to anyone who has previously worked for them and see what a fantastic response you get lol :p
Unfortunately work in the survey biz is pretty quite atm so many of those guys are on way less than they were previously. Bit of a boom and bust industry really...
Twista
I know of several people who are or have, worked for the operator I think you are talking about. They have never talked about the company in the way you do. You don't see them posting on here like you have either. Have to wonder where all your vitriol is coming from.
Propstop
8th Jul 2009, 22:13
I have worked for the survey operator I believe is referred to and I would recommend the job to any normal competent and socially mature person. It is not the job for everyone, but those who fit in, have a very professional attitude and have a flexible and can do attitude simply love it.
The pay is good by industry standard. I would like to come back to this type of work when I finally wish to work back in Australia.
Prop
twista
9th Jul 2009, 02:12
I have worked for the survey operator I believe is referred to and I would recommend the job to any normal competent and socially mature person. It is not the job for everyone, but those who fit in, have a very professional attitude and have a flexible and can do attitude simply love it.
The pay is good by industry standard. I would like to come back to this type of work when I finally wish to work back in Australia.
Prop You fly part 137 opps on a PPL?
When you say that work in the Geosurvey field is quite crap, can you give a reason?
Any job is better than no job right? for sure, but where do you draw the line?
At the end of the day who is responsible, the pilot or the operator if **** hits the fan? An operator can say "We want our work done this way" and that's fine but if your a pilot with just over 200hrs, do you really have an option if you want to keep your job? its simple, no. There is no opps manual requirement for part 137 opps so there is no paper trail. They have their ass covered and they know it.
Propstop
10th Jul 2009, 01:28
Nope.. I fix em.
For a very tiny minority of pilots I also wipe their nose and change their nappies.. but the very large majority of them are highly professional people doing a very demanding job. Fortunately 99.99% of the ones I work with are the latter, both where I am at the moment and in the survey work previously.
185skywagon
10th Jul 2009, 11:31
There is no opps manual requirement for part 137 opps so there is no paper trail.
Twista,
I beg to differ regarding the ops manual. We added Part 137 ops to our operation. We had to resubmit our ops manual , incorporating part 137changes and additions.
AAAA's also have a standard ops manual for submission to CASA for consideration in issuing a Part 137 AOC.
Please enlighten me as to why you think there is no ops manual requirement as stated above.
185.