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Batchy
30th Jun 2009, 00:20
An initial selection from two days of Biggin Hill.
Many more to follow.
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Batchy
30th Jun 2009, 00:22
A few more;
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Cornerstone958
30th Jun 2009, 08:30
Thanks for posting great shots
CS
PPRuNe Pop
30th Jun 2009, 10:09
Wonderful Batchy, thanks.
PPP
rog747
30th Jun 2009, 10:11
great shots
thanks
the VAA 747 is 'clean' (no slats)
was she going fast?:ok:
VeeAny
30th Jun 2009, 19:50
Batchy
Top photos, thanks for posting them.
GS
Jofm5
30th Jun 2009, 20:02
Great photo's,
I notice you were there both days (the Virgin formation was sunday and the vulcan and lancaster were tech sunday) - you must be keen to pay twice.
I was there on the sunday, was still a good day even though a few planes went tech. Am thinking of going to RNAS yeovilton in a couple of weeks as looks like a good display there. I need to get a better camera as mine took pants shots over the weekend - may I ask what you used ?
Cheers
Batchy
30th Jun 2009, 23:03
Thanks Everyone,
I still have quite a few more to post.
They were all taken with my trusty Nikon D300, probably the best camera I have ever owned.
Batchy.
Great shots, nice to see the Sea Vixen in its proper paint job, last time I saw it was when it was advertising Red Bull.
Old Photo.Fanatic
1st Jul 2009, 13:29
Great pics.
"Hear hear" on the Nikon D300. I went Digital in 2005
(My last Film camera was a Nikon F100, another real classic)
I have a Nikon D300 and think its the Business.
I have an older Nikon D70s which is useful for putting on my second Lens.
I then use both lenses between them dependant on "Event/Location,
Making my D300 the Prime "Setup"
I would be interested in knowing the "Lens" you used.
I have 70-200mm f2.8 AFS VR Nikon (Non Digital) gives me effective 105-300mm
Plus a 300mm f 4, AFS Nikon.(Non Digital) gives effective 450mm
I have a Nikon 1.4 Convertor which extends the lenses more, not used this much but happy with results when I do.
As welll as the Lens you used I would like to know where you were "Located" at BH.
I have not been for a few years now and found staying on
the Crowd line side,the "Light" became a problem as the afternoon wore on.
Earlly years 70s and 80s I had access to the other side, drawback being
ground shots were compromised by the "Background" but great Air pics.
I gave the lens info. in anticipation it might help anyone looking for such
details.
OPF
Batchy
1st Jul 2009, 22:06
Thanks Again,
OPF, The shots were taken with a Nikon ED AF-S VR Nikkor 300mm f/2.8G IF.AFS with a Nikon 1.4 teleconverter.
Location wise, Saturday up in the hospitality area, Sunday at the Eastern end of the runway.
Batchy
Love the quality of the pics - not sure I am serious enough into photography to invest the sort of money required for the D300. I will have to look around for something a tad cheaper (around £300-400 mark).
But thanks for the info :ok:
Batchy
2nd Jul 2009, 09:43
Have you considered buying a second hand body.
Batchy.
mr fish
2nd Jul 2009, 21:03
Jofm5,
have a look at the new PANASONIC LUMIX G1.
my first DSLR after many years with a OLYMPUS OM4Ti.
being micro 4/3 it feels tiny at first, but is very well put together,
LOTS of features with a very useful full auto and liveview.
i've had mine about a month and its rarely out of my hands!!
oh, avoid the "coloured bodies", the traditional black is best:ok:
Have you considered buying a second hand body.
Had a look at the second hand market and the D300 holds its value well, one auction on ebay people are still bidding on and its well into the £700 range.
Lumix G1 looks good and black definately looks best - might try find a shop tomorrow with one just to have a look at in person.
Batchy - I am holding you personally responsible for my expenditure lol, had you not shown how pathetic my current camera is I would not be out to buy a new one lol
Batchy
2nd Jul 2009, 23:55
A further selection from Biggin Hill, mainly taken on Sunday.
Sorry. ;) JoFM5, you really can't go too far wrong with a Lumix, Leica lens and all that, I would try and check how quick it focuses though.
Batchy.
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I so need a new camera !, below is a sample taken from my 10mp Benq (cost around £60). Sorry could not re-sample as dont have any gfx packages loaded at the mo so have done as links
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jof/bhill/Typhoon.JPG
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jof/bhill/Virgin2.JPG
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jof/bhill/P_562.JPG
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~jof/bhill/RedBull.JPG
Batchy
5th Jul 2009, 23:24
Hi Jofm5,
If your serious about improving the quality of your photographs you really need to get a DSLR,
I have had a quick look on ebay and there are several early DSLR cameras that would give you far better results than your 10MP Benq.
I would try a Nikon D100 or Canon 20D, you should be able to pick up a body and lens for around £ 300, this will get you started. Then its just a case of practising and learning the basics.
Good luck
Gary
I really don't want to upset anyone here, especially the photographer, but in the '747 +Red Arrows,' The Hawks, which are LEFT of the 747 appear ridiculously small, or is it my ageing eyes? To me it just looks wrong. Humble apologies if I am mistaken. I do video, so can't 'adjust' my pics.
Brewster Buffalo
6th Jul 2009, 19:29
Outstanding work Batchy... you need good equipment of course but you are clearly a skilled photographer...look forward to seeing some more...
BB
Batchy
6th Jul 2009, 21:36
Jem60,
The Hawk is tiny in comparison to the 747, but the telephoto lens does tend to compress the distance between objects.
Batchy
Thanks, Batchy. That is the logical explanation of course. Not being a camera guy, it didn't occur to me. Lovely pics, hope I didn't p..s anyone off.
nippy1975
7th Jul 2009, 16:57
Very nice picture there! My ones at Waddington were rubbish! Must practice more!
Warmtoast
7th Jul 2009, 22:09
Batchy
How I envy your expertise - brilliant photos - TVM for posting them.
I was stationed at Biggin from 1953 - 1956 and was a keen photographer, albeit mainly B & W using my modern (at the time) Voigtländer Bessar folding camera.
The B & W shots were taken at the Biggin Battle of Britain display in September 1954 and show the 2nd prototype Victor (the original had crashed a month or so previously killing all on board), and a Manston based USAF SA-16 doing a Rocket Assisted Take-off.
As can be seen, flying low and fast and near the spectator's was very much standard practice in those days.
The 41 Sqn Meteor F Mk8 was on of my first photos taken in colour when colour film was a horrendously expensive luxury. Considering that the photo was taken 55-years ago, the colours have retained their vibrancy over the years.
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http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/41SqnMeteor8-2-1.jpg
Vino Collapso
7th Jul 2009, 22:16
Great Meteor shot.
As a long term Biggin employee I am always interested in pictures from the 1950's. Can you remember the orientation of that photo? I am trying to place the taxiway in context with the modern layout.
Warmtoast
7th Jul 2009, 22:28
Meteor photo was taken looking south from the old control tower which was along the northern taxi-way running parallel with the main Westerham - Bromley road (A233). The rumway can be seen in the background together with what I think was the station arms or fuel dump.
The old control tower was a hundred yards or so west of where the newly-built control tower was located i.e. between the new tower and domestic site.
Batchy
7th Jul 2009, 22:41
Warmtoast,
Thanks for posting these great shots especially the Meteor shot, I don't suppose you ever popped over To Kenley with your oigtländer Bessar.
Keep them coming.:ok:
Batchy.
Warmtoast
7th Jul 2009, 22:55
Batchy
Never did get over to Kenley.
Another 1954/55 colour photo of 41 Sqn's Vampire T.11 taken at the same time and place as my earlier one of the 41 Sqn. Meteor.
Not sure I should really hog what is your thread after all, as I have dozens of photos taken at Biggin, including some of Neil Williams inverted about 20ft above the crowd in his Zlin, although this probably dates from the early 1960's.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/41SqnVampireT11.jpg
Nice photos Warmtoast, if you don't want to hog this thread I hope you'll start a new one for more, the colour ones are wonderful considering how long ago they were taken.
Vino Collapso
8th Jul 2009, 14:57
I second that!
More please!
PPRuNe Pop
9th Jul 2009, 09:50
Yes, please post your photographs. Perhaps you might care to post them in AH&N as they are of historic. If not I will copy them over after you have finished them - either way the Mil guys will see them.
Batchy,
Sorry to interrupt the thread again, got a D100 off ebay for £205 - have sent you a PM for a bit of advice re-lenses.
Will hopefully repay the intrusion with some cool pics soon :)
Cheers
Batchy
9th Jul 2009, 22:57
Well done Jofm5,
Check your PMs.
Batchy
Warmtoast
10th Jul 2009, 22:19
PPRuNe Pop
Re photos. Here are the screen grabs from my 8mm cine film of Neil Williams inverted in his Zlin at a Battle of Britain display at Biggin Hill which I estimate was shot in the early 1960's (I bought my cine camera in 1960).
I'll start a separate thread of my aircraft I photos taken at Biggin Hill in 1954/55.
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Biggin%20Hill%20Early%201950s/LowPass1.jpg
Neil Williams in his Zlin Treiner approachs inverted
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Biggin%20Hill%20Early%201950s/LowPass2.jpg
Passing overhead - my guess is that he is 20ft above the crowd!
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Biggin%20Hill%20Early%201950s/LowPass3.jpg
Climbing away
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r231/thawes/Biggin%20Hill%20Early%201950s/LowPass4.jpg
Still inverted
Apologies for the quality but cine-film screen grabs are no match when compared to still camera photos.