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Mr Mattingly
23rd Jun 2009, 10:01
Is there an industry-wide Code of Conduct or Ethical Code for Airline Pilots?

Does a Professional body oversee the profession?, or

Is the industry so regulated that professional discretion rarely enters the workplace, therefore such a code is unwarranted?

Have these issues ever been discussed in a public forum?

MM

D-J
23rd Jun 2009, 13:10
Ethics- A Professional Code of Conduct for Airline Pilots.
Is there an industry-wide Code of Conduct or Ethical Code for Airline Pilots?

Does a Professional body oversee the profession?, or

Is the industry so regulated that professional discretion rarely enters the workplace, therefore such a code is unwarranted?

Have these issues ever been discussed in a public forum?

MM

Obviously a Professional Code of Conduct for Journalist is either required or needs to be enforced.... :ugh:

A37575
23rd Jun 2009, 13:32
Is there an industry-wide Code of Conduct or Ethical Code for Airline Pilots?


Of course not. Neither is there an industry wide code of conduct for taxi drivers, shipping captains, truckies or chaplains. Surely such high and mighty titles as Ethical Codes of Conduct are just mere words that mean exactly nothing in the real world. You get bad eggs in every walk of life and drawing up a you beaut glorified document will never change human nature. The only people who would benefit are lawyers who draw up the required grand words in such a document. Waste of time and effort.

ForkTailedDrKiller
23rd Jun 2009, 13:43
Is there an industry-wide Code of Conduct or Ethical Code for Airline Pilots?

Not that I am aware of, but given the wealth of talent that passes through this site I am sure we can soon knock one up.

Dr :8

Capn Bloggs
23rd Jun 2009, 13:49
the wealth of talent that passed through this site
Orr, shucks, thanks Doc. BTW, I'm still here. Haven't "passed though" just yet. :}

ForkTailedDrKiller
23rd Jun 2009, 14:00
The Professional Pilot will:

1) Openly seek the adulation of passengers for any landing that doesn't require an mandatory engineering inspection.

morno
23rd Jun 2009, 14:44
Hmmm, ethics and codes of conduct, :).

You mean like when the F/O takes the fat one so that the Captain can have the skinny blonde with big tits? :}

Ohhh how I love being a Captain, :E.

morno

Uncle Chop Chop
23rd Jun 2009, 21:55
My first chuckle for the day....cheers morno:}

bushy
24th Jun 2009, 01:02
AFAP used to have a written code of conduct for pilots (not just airline pilots.)
However today, thinking is not permitted, so a code of conduct is irrelevent.

Worrals in the wilds
24th Jun 2009, 02:05
So if one is approached by an F/O in a pub, it's time to start dieting?
I learn lots of useful stuff on here. ;):}

Pilot conduct is presumably overseen by the employer. Professional bodies are more common in occupations where people work for themselves, such as doctors, barristers and psychologists (although not exclusively so). They also provide advice and guidance to professionals, who do not have unions.

In any case, how exactly would a pilot act 'unethically'? Most professional associations regulate their members' dealings with money, confidential information, conflicts of interest and the like. While a pilot may make errors or be poorly trained (which has already been discussed) I don't see where the ethical judgements come into it.

Mr. Hat
24th Jun 2009, 07:17
gold morno -even mrs hat thought it was good

Mach E Avelli
24th Jun 2009, 12:14
Worrals, barristers are among the bottom-feeders of society. Ethics, morals? Code of conduct? Like hell. Not all are bad, of course, but a lot get paid lots to twist the law. To get other bottom feeders out of trouble.
In comparison, your average airline pilot is probably not such a bad person, simply because they are not that educated/sophisticated/street smart etc to know how to bend the law. Also they face quite severe penalties, loss of career etc if they get caught out.
But I think A37575's post probably sums it up best.
Unless it can be enforced by the most severe penalties, a code of ethics is not worth a c*** full of cold water.

b_sta
24th Jun 2009, 12:17
Professional code of conduct for airline pilots? You mean, otherwise known as 'the rules' that if broken likely result in 'death'? :ugh:

Worrals in the wilds
24th Jun 2009, 12:51
Mach E Avelli, I take your point, many barristers are pricks, but I must declare a personal interest (seeing as how we're talking ethics :}) as a number of family members are barristers. I ran away and joined the aviation circus which is much more fun.

People hate barristers, and rightly so, until they are wrongly accused of something. Then, when the barrister is all that stands between them and jail they suddenly become a (well paid) best friend. No one likes people who defend trash until they become alleged trash themselves. If you ever stand wrongly accused of a heinous crime, pray you find a competent barrister. Not a 'good' barrister, or an 'ethical' barrister, but a competent barrister.

Sorry for the drift. I agree with you that a code of ethics is un-necessary for pilots, and I'm curious as to why the OP is asking about it.

simply because they are not that educated/sophisticated/street smart etc.
This gets people into trouble.