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Vim_Fuego
3rd Jun 2009, 06:18
Not strictly to do with mil aviation but this man has done much to pee people off to do with it...Of all the MP's caught at the trough over the past few weeks this one gives me the greatest satisfaction Click (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5431621/MPs-expenses-Bob-Ainsworths-repairs-cost-the-taxpayer-5925.html)


I hope the railway sleeper lintal keeps in character with his oak beams and £1000+ gas fire...All essential equipment that he couldn't possibly go to work without...

Twon
3rd Jun 2009, 06:50
"I'll just sort out Afghanistan and MOD equip in a minute; right now I'm claiming my expenses and refurbishing my house." The man has been exposed, particularly as the article says he was the joint Chief Snout in the trough 07/08 plus claimed nearly £20K over 2 years (May 05-Apr 07) for renovation, equip etc.

I think Bob needs to fall on his sword; if the MOD budget can't afford one, maybe he could make it his last claim!

The Swinging Monkey
3rd Jun 2009, 06:53
Unfortunately, the mods would chuck me out if I wrote here what I and just about everyone else thinks of this man.
So, in those imortal words..........

knocker: "I can't say what you are Sir, can I?"
officer: "No Bloggs, you can't"
knocker: "But I can think it Sir, can't I?"
officer: "Yes Bloggs, you can think what you want!"
knocker: "I think you're a *c^% Sir!!"

Same applies here, the man is a complete arse!!!
TSM

tucumseh
3rd Jun 2009, 07:36
B@stard......

Bladdered
3rd Jun 2009, 11:34
Democracy rules - let this shower know what you think by voting appropriately tomorrow.

If any of us falsified claims of any description, the end result after a messy Courts Martial would always have been dismissal and probably loss of pension. I hope it is only a matter of time before all of these miscreants appear in court. From what I have heard though MEPs are even worse, once again, tomorrow is an opportunity to accelerate a process of significant change (or am I being naive again;)).


Ed

Sun Who
3rd Jun 2009, 16:17
In a previous life, not so long ended, I was on the crew of an RAF SAR Sea King tasked with flying Bob Ainsworth on a SAR training sortie. He was newly appointed as Minister of State for the Armed Forces and the aim was to contribute to his education on the role and capability of HM Forces.
The sub-text aspiration from within the SAR Force, as briefed to me by the movers and shakers, was to appraise him of the situation viz a viz SAR-H, in the vain hope that he would instantly recognise it's folly and move to reverse it. Vain as this hope was, they needn't have expended the effort. This corpulent minister squeezed into an immersion suit and proceeded to fain interest in what he was being told whilst airborne.
Both during the sortie and during discussion afterward he proved to be an intellectual pygmy, patently failing to grasp not only many basic aspects of SAR ops but also even the simplest issues associated with the consequences of the SAR-H initiative.
Where am I going with this? I guess, my assertion is that whilst corrupt, arrogant politicians are an issue, the fact that stupid corrupt politicians can rise to be Ministers is more worrying.
As an aside, in the early 80s he was a candidate member of the International Marxist Group - interesting provenance for an Armed Forces minister.
The man's an arse and I hope he's forced to resign.

Sun Who.

spheroid
3rd Jun 2009, 17:45
He can't possibly be an arse as he correctly identified that SAR-H is indeed a valid and important project and should be pursued with the utmost urgency.

L J R
3rd Jun 2009, 18:45
Is that the guy who last year - or whenever, was more interested the necessity in recruiting ethnic minorities than looking after the needs of serving persons and their families.?

Easy Street
3rd Jun 2009, 22:17
BBC NEWS | UK | RAF ends 19-year mission in Iraq (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8080382.stm)

More hits for Ainsworth in the press... particularly like the comments from CO and family member in the report!

Bring on a general election...

Boatman
4th Jun 2009, 02:36
I have also had the pleasure of briefing the rt hon. he didn't strike me as a sharp tool.
As an aside from how dim he might be how does one complain about his behaviour when HM forces in many areas have had to live in sub-standard accomodation. I have enquired on the Parliament website and he is not obliged to read emails from non-constituents, so unless you live in Coventry you can't give him any grief, or at least fill his inbox.
Any Ideas?

L J R
4th Jun 2009, 04:51
Looks like the Australian guy pulled the yellow and black handle on a less important ministerial breech:


Defence Minister Joel Fitzgibbon resigns from portfolio | The Courier-Mail (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25586128-952,00.html)

airborne_artist
5th Jun 2009, 09:31
When we are fighting a very tough war in Afghanistan, some continuity in Government would help. But that's not Gordon's view, so John Hutton is stepping down, the BBC report.

Can someone please lean out and count the number of wheels left on the wagon, but be careful not to upset the C of G, as I'm not sure it's got much stability right now.

mick2088
5th Jun 2009, 09:46
Hutton is citing family reasons for leaving the post.

To quote the old Sun headline from the 1992 general election, "will the last person to leave [Brown's cabinet] please turn the light out". Appears this government is in its last days of power.

airborne_artist
5th Jun 2009, 09:51
Appears this government is in its last days of power

I think any semblance of power evaporated some time ago. The public view of this Parliament and this Government is tarnished beyond repair. What we are seeing now are the nervous jerks in the last few moments before death.

I feel very sorry for the lads and lasses out fighting, and hearing this news in dribs and drabs, and wondering what will be left when they get home. It's potentially unsettling for them, when they need to know that the country is being lead by people of conviction and integrity.

Inspector Dreyfuss
5th Jun 2009, 10:01
What a shambles.

Wrathmonk
5th Jun 2009, 10:20
Although he may have cited 'family reasons' this comes barely 24 hours after this was reported by the Beeb:

Defence Secretary John Hutton said Mr Purnell had made "the wrong decision" and Mr Brown was "the right man to lead our party and our country".

Link here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8083585.stm)

Perhaps the 'family reasons' were his family telling him to get off the sinking ship now rather than be dragged down by Mr Brown!

Avitor
5th Jun 2009, 10:30
The palace of Westminster needs emptying and filled by the wishes of the electorate.
Politics is in meltdown. A deluded man with the power, his lieutenants resigning in numbers.
Our military, and citizens deserve more than what is on offer at the moment.
Isn't success dependent on leadership? What leadership?

NURSE
5th Jun 2009, 12:00
to loose 1 could be seen as unfortunate
to loose 2 could be seen as unlucky
to loose 3 seams like dammed carelessness
But 4!!!!

8-15fromOdium
5th Jun 2009, 12:17
Lord Mandelson has just been on the BBC News saying that the reshuffle will be arranged around the Governments priorities.

Lets see how high a priority Defence is, if Ainsworth gets promoted I suggest we all pack up and go home.

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 12:43
Ainsworth is probably trying to work out how to pay for oak beams in the rest of his house, now that he can't put them on expenses. Maybe he is eyeing property in Tuscany, that other socialist hangout.

You can't keep the good working class boy down. (And former communist, of course). I am sure he would jump at the chance of a pay rise, errm I mean promotion.

minigundiplomat
5th Jun 2009, 12:51
NURSE,

I think the word you are looking for is 'lose', but there again, given the state of this government you may well be right.

Avtur
5th Jun 2009, 12:51
Doesn't he hace a constituancy where they hope to build some new toys for the RN? Perhaps its a case of quitting before the cancellation is announced?????

Pontius Navigator
5th Jun 2009, 13:05
Bring back Des. Part-time maybe but he did stay the pace.

PS, on second thoughts, don't.

I had Dr John's H&S Policy on 2 sides of paper, Swiss took, IIRC, 6, by the time we got to John H it was back to 3.

Wrathmonk
5th Jun 2009, 13:21
Breaking news on the Beeb - Ainsworth has the job!

Pete268
5th Jun 2009, 13:21
Its Bob Ainsworth according to the BBC

spheroid
5th Jun 2009, 13:21
The new defence secretary is.............................


............ Aimsworth.....Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

Squirrel 41
5th Jun 2009, 13:23
BBC are reporting that the former Armed Forces Minister has stepped up to be SoS.

SOS? Indeed - what a complete muppet into one of the great offices of State. :{

Shameful, Gordo, Shameful :ugh:

S41

spheroid
5th Jun 2009, 13:24
Now he has got a pay rise and a bigger office maybe he can afford to pay for his own decorating....

Guzlin Adnams
5th Jun 2009, 13:38
It won't be for long....;)

c130jbloke
5th Jun 2009, 13:41
Amen to that :bored:

Jumping_Jack
5th Jun 2009, 13:44
Noooooooooooooooooo! (looking up as camera pans away..)

Inspector Dreyfuss
5th Jun 2009, 13:47
Upgrade our PAN to a full MAYDAY.

airborne_artist
5th Jun 2009, 13:53
According to Wiki he was "a candidate member of the International Marxist Group" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Marxist_Group), who are fans of Trotsky.

A former trade-unionist at Jaguar, so he'll be a fan of buying British, so I don't fancy the chances of the Puma upgrade being done outside the UK.

8-15fromOdium
5th Jun 2009, 14:00
Best I go and overdose on the loyalty pills then!
Now what else should I wish not to get?

Gainesy
5th Jun 2009, 14:18
Ah, the final pieces of that nice Mr Putin's master plan click into place...:suspect::yuk:

flipster
5th Jun 2009, 14:21
Red ON, Green ON...
JUMP, JUMP!!!!!!
:{:{:{

Chesty Morgan
5th Jun 2009, 14:21
How Bob Ainsworth voted on key issues since 2001:

Voted strongly against a transparent Parliament.
Voted moderately for introducing a smoking ban.
Voted strongly for introducing ID cards.
Voted very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals.
Voted strongly for introducing student top-up fees.
Voted very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws.
Voted very strongly for the Iraq war.
Voted very strongly against an investigation into the Iraq war.
Voted very strongly for replacing Trident.
Voted very strongly for the hunting ban.
Voted very strongly for equal gay rights.
Voted moderately for laws to stop climate change.

Lord Elpus
5th Jun 2009, 14:33
A truly awful man with his face very firmly in the Westminster nosebag. Thankfully, it will only be for a max of 12 months.

What could possibly go wrong in those 12 months?:ugh:

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 14:39
I would like to extend my congratulations to "former" communist Ainsworth, that nice working class lad, on hearing news of his new promotion. I do hope, he now has enough money to install oak beams in the rest of his house, by using monies from his own purse, rather than claim expenses meant for essential parliamentary work.

I am "heartened" by your representation of working class people up and down the land...............

Lord Elpus
5th Jun 2009, 14:48
Well every cloud and all that: Buff Hoon has finally walked!! Another truly awful slimeball of a SoS.


Now Hoon has always stayed on regardless as he's a horrid toady, therefore, how bad is this govt/Broon for him to walk out???

Hopefully, this lot will be gone very very soon.

Archimedes
5th Jun 2009, 14:55
What next? King Herod as children's minister? :eek:

anita gofradump
5th Jun 2009, 15:41
This is the man who told an audience, a short while ago that he offered continuing condolence to the families of the crew lost on XV235, as the very aircraft taxied to a halt on return from an operational sortie!!!!!

:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Sun Who
5th Jun 2009, 15:58
As I said on a previous post, I've met him, he's an arse.
Thank god he won't be in long if he does become SofS.

The lunatics have taken over, and continue to run, the asylum.

Sun.

airsound
5th Jun 2009, 16:05
The Prime Minister For The Time Being has just said that Ainsworth is very popular with the armed forces - so you guys must be wrong.

airsound

shiny_shoes
5th Jun 2009, 16:11
The PM has just said that Bob Ainsworth is highly regarded and liked among members of the Armed Forces. It clearly isn't members of the UK Armed Forces that I have been in for 22 years.

I second the comment from Sun Who....I have also met Bob Ainsworth and the man is an arse.

airborne_artist
5th Jun 2009, 16:14
The PM has just said that Bob Ainsworth is highly regarded and liked among members of the Armed Forces.

She Who Must Be Obeyed has just had to treat me for a badly bruised @rse - I fell off my chair laughing at that comment from Broon.

Both of them are living on another planet :ugh:

pulse1
5th Jun 2009, 16:33
But surely, Mr Brown was giving a "candid answer" to the question as he was asked especially to do. So, he must be right, mus'nt he?:confused:

Utrinque Apparatus
5th Jun 2009, 16:45
Ainsworth is an "Old Labour" nonentity, to make up the numbers in Brown's panic - Dumb too. Just watch him on TV trying to explain himself. Thick as the proverbial and another calculated Brown insult to our lads and lasses in the field.

AA

Eeeewww, too graphic, your poor missus ! :E

Sun Who
5th Jun 2009, 16:48
This from the Telegraph online TODAY:

Bob Ainsworth, the new Defence Secretary, won his first Cabinet post because of his experience overseeing Britain's military deployment in Afghanistan.

And worse:

As Armed Forces Minister, his no-nonsense manner has won him respect from the military.

Not sure what to say really.

Winco
5th Jun 2009, 16:52
I've just listened to the PMs press conference where he stated proudly that Bob Ainsworth was highly respected and liked by the Generals and all of the Commanding Officers of the units in the British Military (or something close to that)

Would any current serving high ranking officer, general or CO like to comment on that please?

From what i can see, the man is a complete waste of oxygen.

Still, at worst, it will only be for a year boys and girls.

Winco

BEagle
5th Jun 2009, 16:58
More or less 'liked' than Buff Hoon?

Still, it won't be for more than about 3 months......

rockape2k7
5th Jun 2009, 17:06
I've briefed him too and, to be frank, he came across as thick as a whale omlette. :eek:

I wonder how his DV interview will go.... :\ or are MPs even Rt Hon ones (therefore vetted??? given their clearances) above that sort of thing?

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 17:19
Do you have to take an IQ Test before a DV interview?

Bet working class Bob is sweating it. He's probably already ordered his Laura Ashley curtains.....

Sun Who
5th Jun 2009, 18:45
Appalled as I am by Ainsworth's appointment, I found myself wondering who Brown could have chosen as a better option.
I found myself unable to identify a decent candidate from within Labour's ranks.

Who would you choose? Sensible suggestions only - unless they're amusing.

Sun Who

rockiesqiud
5th Jun 2009, 18:59
what's wrong with being working class?

BEagle
5th Jun 2009, 19:20
Nothing.

There's a place for everyone.

GasFitter
5th Jun 2009, 19:27
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA_i5i3MN30&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA_i5i3MN30&feature=related)

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 19:28
Nothing wrong with being working class, everything wrong with pretending to be working class.

He looks particularly gormless with his mouth open when he is thinking about how to answer a question. Perhaps he should just keep it closed.

Squirrel 41
5th Jun 2009, 19:54
Thanks for the link.... it's even worse than I'd feared. :ugh:

Clearly Labour aren't exactly inundated with talent at the moment.... Gawd help us...


S41

airborne_artist
5th Jun 2009, 20:16
Who would you choose? Sensible suggestions only - unless they're amusing.

Kate Hoey - more balls than most of the grey suits/grey faces that make up Nu Labia.

VinRouge
5th Jun 2009, 20:20
Great. We now have a great fat **** as a sec state for defence.

No matter. That wallowing, incompetent one-eyed snot eating **** we have as PM will be lucky to last the weekend. He couldnt even hold a single council.

Once he gets ousted, I very much doubt the constitutionalists will tolerate a second unelected premier, more likely riots followed by general election, thank god. We can finally vote out the idiot that managed to destroy the economy in 10 years.

Hannahan in the Telegraph questions the PMs state of mind. Having met the Tw*t, I would tend to agree.

Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/2009/06/05/labour_cant_even_lose_with_dignity)


UPDATE: The man is plainly deranged. I don't use that word lightly about the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, but there is no other way to describe his press conference a moment ago. He denied flat-out that he had wanted to shift the Chancellor, and breezily tried to tell the assembled journalists that, when people saw the results of his reforms, support would come back. Eh? We have now got to the stage where not a single Labour MP will serve as Europe Minister. John Denham has gone, Caroline Flint has gone, Paul Murphy has gone. Yet the Broon continues to blather about the recovery of the housing sector! He's mad: stark staring mad. It's over.

edwardspannerhands
5th Jun 2009, 20:22
As Private Frazer would say..."Doomed I'll tell ya. We're all doomed".

Coup anyone?:suspect:

(The above is said in jest - before you send black omega to the door!!)

AdLib
5th Jun 2009, 20:24
Nothing happens by accident. That Telegraph picture is a beut. The recently revealed sneering face of Labour.

If we can only protest to the honourable Member (for Coventry) if we live in his constituency does that mean we can only protest to Herr Braun if we live in Kikcaldy and/or Cowdenbeath? If this isn't the case, perhaps a letter (or 10,000,000) would do the trick.

Gordon Brown
10 Downing Street
London

endplay
5th Jun 2009, 21:06
Given that the general concensus is that Ainworth isn't the man for the job can I ask who is? Party political persusaions aside.

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 21:10
Hutton was doing a good job. it is an indication that Labour Ministers do not have their hearts in the job and are completely distracted that Hutton has walked away when his country needed him.

We need an independent minded, proven politician to settle the ship. I don't think one exists on the Labour benches. Certainly not one happy to work for the mad PM.

Sun Who
5th Jun 2009, 21:14
I think Kate Hoey is an intelligent suggestion. Arguably an island of honour and ability in a sea of mediocrity and corruption.
It'd be nice to be able to identify a candidate with at least some knowledge of the military though.
It seems to be accepted that you need a modicum of financial acumen to be chancellor but Defence Ministers apparently need absolutely no relevant experience whatsoever.

Sun Who.

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 21:15
I was going to suggest Kate Hoey, but I don't think she gets on with the mentalist PM.

VinRouge
5th Jun 2009, 21:27
Dont Worry. in 6 months, it will be Liam Fox as SOS for Defence with the likes of Adam Holloway and other 'been there, done it' Tories providing far more experience than any of the socialist scum ever have.

Hopefully funded by lots of cuts in spending in overfunded, overpanded National Health services and nonjob civil servants.

minigundiplomat
5th Jun 2009, 21:37
Hoon has not done the decent thing by resigning. He has stood down in order to take up a forthcoming position as an EU commissioner.

Ainsworth is truly an anagram of clueless knobjockey.

pr00ne
5th Jun 2009, 21:49
vinrouge

"in 6 months, it will be Liam Fox as SOS for Defence with the likes of Adam Holloway and other 'been there, done it' Tories"

Apart from the 6 months being a tad optimistic, you are probably right here.

Though you WILL also have defence cuts that will make your eyes WATER!!!!!!!!!

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 22:05
I disagree. The Tories won't be soft-hearted about labour's political decisions for big ticket options that buy jobs in Labour constituencies.

What does that mean in reality?

Cheaper off the shelf options, eg, more Js instead of A400M.

I doubt the kit will be any worse than we have at the moment. For sure Fox will be looking to make savings, but I was chatting with someone close to procurement decision making the other week. He stated clearly that buying carriers was a purely political decision. Meanwhile MoD had been ordered to identify £3Bn in savings on desperately needed frontline equipment-in a matter of days.

Labour have been a disaster. Don't be too hard on the Tories-YET!

insty66
5th Jun 2009, 22:08
Though you WILL also have defence cuts that will make your eyes WATER!!!!!!!!!

That's going to happen, no matter who gets in.

It's the current government that has brought this on us. You simply cannot blame anyone else for this, only 1 party has been in power for the last 12 years.

VinRouge
5th Jun 2009, 22:18
Pr00ne, go scutter off into the gutter. Your decade of socialist utopia is over.

Welcome to the real world.

Where real world people get ahead, as opposed to a bunch of fruitcakes making money from legal services that we never needed.

TBH, I will be all for cuts in defence, as long as I get to see lazy people go hungry as opposed to getting an easy time of sitting on their ar$e.

nigegilb
5th Jun 2009, 22:32
PS, also had a couple of contacts with Adam Holloway, top geezer, very switched on.

Archimedes
5th Jun 2009, 23:11
FM Lord Bramall takes a dim view of Hutton's departure:

Letter in the Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6439827.ece)

(third letter down)

Wrathmonk
6th Jun 2009, 06:21
Surprised Lord West didn't get a look in .....:E

pr00ne
6th Jun 2009, 10:14
vinrouge,

You DO make me laugh! There has been nothing socialist about the last decade.

You appear to live in a fantasy world, you are welcome to it and your vicious social conscience. Thankfully whatever Govt is in power will not pander to the likes of you.

airborne_artist
6th Jun 2009, 10:22
Pr00ne - If he's not a Socialist, what do you call Ainsworth? Marxist, Trotskyist? He's not just a nudge to the left of Cameron, that's for sure.

VinRouge
6th Jun 2009, 10:29
Pr00ne Wait and see - I think you are going to find a lot of Legal types flipping burgers down at Mcdonalds once the Conservatives decimate funding for legal services. Same with non jhob civil servants associated with nonsense jobs.

I suppose you call being governed by an unelected Prime Minister with a Cabinet littered with completely unelected ministers Democratic do you?

My issue isnt necessarily with the socialist element, my issue is the complete and utter incompetence that has been repeatedly demonstrated by ther ruling government, refusal to listen to the electorate, wholesale destruction of the economy (second time in a row for an elected labour government left for the Tories to fix yet again), deregulation of the banks, balooning individual debts, chronic underinvestment in the UK armed forces, having commited them to 2 overseas large campaigns, at a time public debt was increased to its highest level since world War 2 and certainly not kept a sensible proportion of total tax take. Labour have been truly, utterly disasterous for this country. Thats before we get on wasted investment in bollox legal services and the NHS pi$$ed up the wall on an army of advisers, managers and quangos, as oppposed to true frontline services.


As for Ainsworth, I bet the disgusting little man has done little other than be a member of a leftist trade union, promoted up the food chain and is as far removed from his fellow worker as you could possibly get. He also comes across as lacking intelligence something that seems to be somewhat of a theme amongst Labour Cabinets....
Now go scutter off and practice flipping burgers chap, time to learn a skillset that is at least slightly useful.

pr00ne
6th Jun 2009, 10:43
vinrouge,

Oh you do so make me giggle, do you go red in the face when you type?

Funding for legal services has been decimated for years, Cameron's mob will not make much of a difference there.

As to me going and flipping burgers........

I'm a Barrister dear chap, most of my clients and client companies have been Cameron supporters for a long time, I doubt that a Tory administration will present them with any issues at all and I doubt that my case load will in any way diminish.

Those social and deprivation cases that I choose to become involved in I do not charge for my services, so again no change there then.

I doubt that many of 'us legal types' will fear an oncoming Tory administration. Why should we, it will be no different from the Blair administration.

Have to agree with you about shocking levels of incompetence in Govt circles though.

You have a strange desire to wreak social chaos on the under privileged and the unemployed. I do hope that you never REALLY need the services of a competent defence lawyer.................

pulse1
6th Jun 2009, 11:03
Following Ainsworth's dubious contribution to the Nimrod inquest is there not something ironic and just if he is in charge when Haddon-Cave reports in October?

nigegilb
6th Jun 2009, 12:27
Those of us who were in the room when the families were conducting a press conference immediately after the findings of the Nimtod Inquest were made public, will NEVER forget the moment that Ainsworth chose to rubbish the conclusions of the Oxford Coroner.

Ainsworth had not read the findings because the print wasn't dry, but he chose to stick his marxist oar in within minutes of the Coroner finishing speaking. He is quite simply a buffoon.

I very much look forward to the Haddon Cave report.

Someone get me another Defence Secretary, be ready for October 2009......

Bunker Mentality
6th Jun 2009, 12:34
MGD

Ainsworth isn't really an anagram of clueless knobjockey, although I can see what you're driving at.

Ainsworth is an anagram of a worn ****, though - and a short win, too!

BM

BEagle
8th Jun 2009, 06:28
Well, given the monumental ar$e-kicking dished out to nuLabor in the European Parliamentary elections (as well as the UK local elections), Ainsworth won't be arond long enough for the paint to dry on his parking space.....

At long last Europe is finally seeing through the nonsense of socialism. Hopefully it'll soon become as much of a historical curiousity as Communism now is, eh pr00ne?

NURSE
8th Jun 2009, 06:55
I saw something in one of the Sunday papers about Ainsworth being under investigation over the Mastiff contract and not declaring an interest following meeting with management of the company? could be wrong

The Tories are an unknown look at the 1981 defence review! I don't think Labour will have a majority to form a govt next election but Lib Dems could be a dark horse. I don't seriously believe we'll have a libdem govt however if there are lots of independants/UKIP/BNP/Green etc voted in as well it will make forming a govt with a working majority very tricky and a coalition will muddy the waters consideribly

millerscourt
8th Jun 2009, 07:19
BEagle Pr00ne will always be the Red under the bed:=

flipster
8th Jun 2009, 08:27
Maybe I am slow off the mark but I have heard it said that, even in MoD, Mr Ainsworth goes by the monicker of...

"Aint Worth Sh!t"

(though, I susepct, not to his face)

Now, that made me laugh!:):):)

nigegilb
8th Jun 2009, 09:34
Maybe he'll get a New Labour luvvy makeover and get told to shave his moustache off.

After yesterday's results he's probably better off reducing the width and standing for the BNP at the next election.:}

Not_a_boffin
8th Jun 2009, 18:38
According to Charlie Falconer, that well known example of probity and duty ...

"Bob Ainsworth, for all the sneering in the press, is someone whom his fellow politicians, civil servants and the Armed Services greatly respect."

Only a new leader will bring unity to Labour | Charlie Falconer - Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6451928.ece)

Shome mishtake shurely....and he's calling for Cyclops to b8gger off!

BEagle
8th Jun 2009, 19:02
Whilst I have no admiration for Incapability Brown, the behaviour of his spineless nuLabor cohorts does rather remind one of rats and sinking ships.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/Internet/zxzxz.jpg

El Gordo shouldn't really be carrying the can personally for every (Ains)worthless nuLabor idiot; however, he now needs to do the right thing by pulling the black and yellow and calling a General Election.

NURSE
9th Jun 2009, 06:08
Whilst I have no admiration for Incapability Brown, the behaviour of his spineless nuLabor cohorts does rather remind one of rats and sinking ships.


El Gordo shouldn't really be carrying the can personally for every (Ains)worthless nuLabor idiot; however, he now needs to do the right thing by pulling the black and yellow and calling a General Election

read Boris Johnsons piece in yesterdays Daily Telegraph might give you a reason why.

pr00ne
9th Jun 2009, 20:54
BEagle,

"Hopefully it'll soon become as much of a historical curiousity as Communism now is, eh pr00ne?"


Oh bless, aren't you sweet!

We haven't had a 'socialist' Government in this country since 1979, a few years earlier than that if the truth be told. No bad thing actually.............

Any bets on the date of Cameron's first defence cuts? Thatcher managed at least 11 months in power before she was cutting defence. I reckon he might just beat her.