Career changes for ex Cabin crew?

[mooguy]

Hi Everyone

I've written on this subject before, but would appreciate anyone who could give me advice on what some of you ex Flight Attendants do when you quit flying?

I worked in Monarch, Emirates, and also have lots of experience in VIP and corporate flying.

I took a career break when I got married 4 yrs ago, and haven't the foggiest what to do now....Im 42 and finding it really hard to break into anything!

Tried to get into travel agency work, but they all seem to hire 23 yr olds....I believe theres an agency in London that hires ex hosties as Corporate receptionists....any advice would be greatly appreciated:ok:

[VS-LHRCSA]

I'm on my second career break now (due to the 'economic climate', etc) and I sussed out that agency in London. I got the impression that they also were looking for young women but give them a try, you never know. Perhaps it was because I'm a bloke?

I've actually been studying since my first career break and have worked for a few smaller airlines on temporary contracts, just to keep myself active in the industry. I find it's hard to put flying behind you. At first, it's great not having to get up at 0400 but after a while you miss it but by the time my temporary contracts have been up, I've been glad to stop flying. Then, a few months later, I'm missing it again.

The way things are at the moment, studying might be an idea for you. You can get funding for your fees, plus maintenance grants which don't have to be paid until you start earning GBP17K (fat chance these days) and you can work part time to sustain yourself.

[HighHeeled-FA]

I was very close to being made me redundant and it made me think seriously about what else I could do after flying.

A lot of ex-colleagues have found it quite difficult, even in their early thirties, to actually forge a career in anything. With customer skills etc, floor manager is a popular choice in clothes stores etc that you would see on the high street.

Other options are department receptionist/ team secretary but this is quite tough if you are past 30 with very little/no admin experience.

It will be tough but I know I wouldn't want to fly up to my forties, but at the same time leaving in my early-late thirties means I will find it very difficult to find another career. The other problem is leaving in my late twenties while I'm still "young" is a little soon for me.

I'd definitely be interested in hearing some views on this subject.

[Jean-Lill]

It seems like a good idea to give up flying and doing something else.
Think twice because most people who have done it wished they had not.

Being a flight attendant is a good job and there is absolutely nothing wrong in flying in your forties. The days have passed when pax expected only c/c in their 20's.

In the USA they fly into their 70's and 80's. One retired a few years ago aged 85 after 60 years in the air.

So it cannot be that bad.

I had to retire at 55 after 35 years with the same airline, I thought I was too young for the scrap heap at 55.

Getting another job now is difficult unless you are very young.

I know of a few who have gone into teacher training but have no idea what the others' have done.

I noticed a few like myself who had to retire youngish who now work on the ground for various airlines, it is hard to give up but after yo have left and miss the job it it is even harder to get back.

[bunkrest]

I gave up and now work as a PA for a company director- I had some previous experience in recruitment and secretarial prior to flying and was lucky enough to be made permanaent after temping for a few months.

I can't say it compares with flying - I do miss the buzz and the people- but its great to be treated as something other than a number and not to have to stay awake for 36 hours on the trot...!

I'd say try temping to get a taste of what is available - its good for the CV and doesn't tie you down.

[farflung]

I have been flying for 12 years and really want to change careers, but it is difficult with financial obligations. I wondered about temping on my days off to get admin experience. Does anyone know if it is possible to get ad hoc temp work?

[CornishFlyer]

A regular pattern that I've noticed at the airlines I have worked at (and also something I am considering doing myself when the time comes for a change) is that a lot of people leave to join the Police. I guess both roles are people focused and so for some it is a natural progression. Maybe an idea...?

[bunkrest]

Hi Farflung

Yes it is possible - there are a whole variety of contracts out there from 1 day a week to cover flexible working to full time ongoing...

I think the best option (if you have no previous office experience) is to try to do a few secreterial type courses before you go to an agency- these can be done online and show you know one end of a computer from the other! (Excel, Outlook, Powerpoint and Word are all favourites).

Also if you want to go into admin I would definately aim for PA/office manager level....I started out on reception many years ago and wanted to shoot myself wihtin 2 weeks...I think if you have a crew mentality you need somthing that keeps you on your toes and challenges the old grey matter.

My job now is pretty self sufficient and I decide how I work and what to prioritise - It can be a bit of a minor nightmare sometimes (think the devil wears Prada) but otherwise its the best decision I ever made!

[mooguy]

Very interesting to read stories from all your aspects, especially what both Hgh-Heeled FA and VS had to say.

I relate very much to Vs story. There's a time when it gets in your blood, you just pine to fly again, thena after some temp VIP contract you are all over it once more.......what's with us? Despite it's lucrativity, flying is a very de-stabilising job......more so for women. Relationships flounder, nothing is secure, yet it sure beats working in an office!

I really cannot imagine being a shop room assistant. Even in Harrods! I worked in an expensive shoe-shop on Oxford st in London as a youngster, and walked out on my lunch break.....I felt I would murder someone!

I think you are correct VS......this company in London is interested in younger ex hosties......nah.....not gonna bother pursuing that one. I could do without the indignity!

I'm currently applying to all the major Travel agancies, I am worried there exists the invisible age barrier, and I certainly know how to dumb down my cv...........apparantly they are all in "freeze" mode now........so one just sends one's cv in and hopes for the best....wish me luck and again

Thank you all very much for your varied stories and ideas :ok:

[Beryl1]

I quit flying two years ago and I admit I have been really lucky.

What you have to know, though is that you shouldn't sell yourself short. If you believe that you don't have the right experience, then potential employers will also believe that.

I started working in an office within my own airline which made the transition to civvy street much easier. THe people loved having me there because I was able to fill them in on what life on board is really like.

But what I notice most was that it was not the people who had the best education or experience that succeed, but the ones with the right attitude. For example you might think that you have no project management experience, but if you've ever planned a complex holiday or home improvement project then you do have the experience.

WHat employers want is evidence of the skills needed for the job you're after, but not necessarily on the job expeience.

The first step is having a blinding CV and covering letter.

If you're CV says " Flight attendant - looked after passengers" then no one will give you a second look.

If you put some spin on it and say "Flight attendant - As a highly customer oriented team player for a high end premium international carrier, I was not only responsible for customer safety, I also fulfilled customer expectaitions to corporate standards, while using my initiative to manage unexpected situations. I have highly developed communication skills, essential when dealing with cultural differences from all over the world. This role requires expert knowledge of products, procedures and standards, all of which change on a frequent basis. I am excited by the prospect of bringing these people skills into a new arena etc etc etc....."

Potential employers will sit up and listen - as a FA you have great people skills so use them to sell yourself.

If you don't know whether you are ready to take the plunge - look for a secondment or the opportunity for a leave of absence so you can go off, get some different experience and still have your flying job to fall back on.

The advice that made me give up flying was from a great friend who said..."Are you going to fly forever? No? Then you're already planning to leave. Give up while you can look back at the memories with fondness rather than when its gets so late that you resent it".

The only ex FAs I know who regret quitting are those that haven't got themselves to a place where they are doing so well (not necessarily in the financial sense) that they want to go back to it.

I loved flying but I've ticked that box (ten years worth) moved on and am happier now than ever before.

And if you ask me what I'm doing on Saturday May 31 2010, I'll answer "I don't know yet, but as its a weekend, I'll definately be available!"

My gosh I've really gone into a spin - just my 2 cents worth - I hope you get to where you want to be soon - remember you only live once and when the world becomes such a small place that you can go to JFK and never leave your room then you know you've had enough.

Bx

PS A word of warning (now a word of warning?!!) - Its a tough world out there right now so make sure you know what you are doing if you are thinking about quittitng because if you quit and end up without work at all then you'll really be in a pickle. Good luck x

[Little Blue]

Come over to the dark side, CREWING !
At my previous carrier, at least a third of our crewing staff were ex-hosties.
At least you would still be dealing with your colleagues, albeit as one of the "ENEMY!"

[dalmation67]

Hi,

I unfortunately lost my job when XL went bump last september. Having been in aviation since 1992 I was pretty much at a loss as to what I could do.

I was offered positions with other airlines however having moved from a cabin crew position into training which was more ground based, I really didn't want to return to flying.

Fortunately I have secured a job with a Train Company working onboard the train and I love it!
Shift working, not confined to an office and out and about!!

Money not bad either!

;)

[bartygwailo]

I worked as crew for six years and have now been working in recruitment for two years. I use my language skills, meet people daily from all over the world and visit clients out and about. It is quite hard work which I sometimes find stressful, but it keeps me on my toes and I love being able to spend time with family and friends on the weekend and in the evenings. I also feel much more confident as a member of society. Whilst I am gushing about it all, I have also found it marvelous to be able to pursue other interests and I am currently studying at college part time and attending a dance school. Things that would have been much harder to fit into my flying schedule. I loved travelling and the fun of flying and I certainly miss the discounted travel, (but I don't miss standing by with a kid in tow!) I am so happy that I flew and it has given me so many great memories, but now I feel a lot more secure, mentally as well as financially and if for some reason i want to change job or lose my current job, I won't have to start from the very bottom again. When I was looking for work I felt like I couldn't do anything in the "normal" world and got so depressed. My self esteem was very low. But you can do it. We all can. And we have great skills that can help in a lot of different situations. Good luck and go for it! x

[bartygwailo]

ps I noticed some people were talking about age. I was 33 when I successfully changed career. Not a 23 yr old girl.

[TrOlLeY DoLlEy]

I know it seems scary taking that first step out of the airlines, but i had been flying for over 4 years and decided to take the plunge. I had other friends who were crew for Ryanair and they recommended a company that hire corporate receptionists who specifically come from airline backgrounds. The roles are really similar, with extra special emphasis placed on giving top notch customer service and they even give you a uniform, so you don't have to go out and buy yourself a whole new work wardrobe :D I have been working in fantastic offices in Liverpool Street and my role is basically like cabin crew, just no serving of 'chicken or beef', no flight safety or angry passengers! Good starting salaries aswell!
If you want to hear more send me a message and i'll give you the website! Check it out!

[flight04]

Hey guys, In australia quite a few of my friends who are now ex-crew have made the switch to the banking industry as teller & branch staff.
Great hours, weekends free & above average money!

xo

[Smileybird1]

Hi All

I was cabin crew for nearly 7 years and had toyed with the idea of leaving for my last 4 years of flying!

I finally plucked up the courage and decided to attempt to get into a job that I had always thought I would like.... Paramedic.

I was lucky enough to get accepted on a training course and have never looked back since. I get paid a lot less than I used to get paid. I work a lot harder than I used to work. I see things that no-one deserves to see.

BUT I love it and I'm glad I made the change. On a personal level I now have more job satisfaction and I am now in a position to look back at my time when I was flying with happy memories.

6 years and 3 kids on I am still happy I made the right decision.

It's a hard choice to leave the security of flying but this is your one chance at life and you have to grab all opportunities when you can and if you are thinking there is another career that interests you then pursue it.

Smiley
x

[Abusing_the_sky]

That's a great story there Smiley, well done!

:D




I used to fancy myself in a police officer job but methinks it's really hard running after offenders in high heels and i'm addicted to them! (the high heels that is):)

[mona lot]

It's a hard choice to leave the security of flying

Which airline did you fly for?

[Dawdler]

Being a flight attendant is a good job and there is absolutely nothing wrong in flying in your forties. The days have passed when pax expected only c/c in their 20's.

If I can interject here, speaking as SLF I would concur with that. I much prefer CC to have experience and a mature approach rather than some of the airheads we sometimes get straight out of training.

[MartinCh]

You can get funding for your fees, plus maintenance grants which don't have to be paid until you start earning GBP17K (fat chance these days) and you can work part time to sustain yourself.not CC, just making things bit straight.
repayment of 9% of gross income over 15k per annum (ie 450 pa if earning 17k). maintenance grant is free money. One could also get loan. That's besides tuition fees, depending on which part of the UK.

Well, why would someone aged 42 want to start FT degree, with all the commitments of family? Not that it doesn't happen, but..

Speaking as SLF, on my flights to/from the US and US domestic, I've seen quite a few CC/FA folks in their 40s or even more. No idea about legacy airlines in the UK/Europe since using locos I only see 20-something girls.

I once applied for CC job/open day, but realised later on I'd rather work on getting to flight deck :-D I wouldn't see myself retiring as CC, though.
All the best with picking fun, reasonably paid and giving satisfaction.

[Smileybird1]

Mona

I worked for BA. I joined in 1997 on the new contract (although I believe there is a newer contract existing now as well). I had a couple of years at LH LGW and then moved LH LHR. After a couple of years there I went part time.

I had a fab time and saw the world whilst being paid for it. There are so many happy memories of my time there but eventually the good times began to fade and I started hating going to work and I felt I wasn't giving the customers the service they deserved.

I feel lucky that I had the opportunity to work with BA and feel that at the time they were the best company to work for. There are negatives in any company and then there are negatives just simply flying. Missing friends weddings/parties started to annoy me. I asked if I could have leave following my own wedding and was told "No but you can have unpaid leave".

When I got married I knew that I would want to try for a family. My husband also flies and I didn't want both of us flying with kids. It did help knowing that my husband would be there to support us financially if my career in the ambulance service had not worked out, so that helped the decision to leave.

As I said in my previous post, leaving flying was the best thing I could do. Now I only have memories that are happy, I think this is important because flying gave me so much that it didn't deserve to be thought of in the negative way I had become to think of it.


For anyone else interested I was 29 when I left flying.

Smiley
x

[bogus1]

Hi
I've stopped flying after 14 years, and i'm almost 37. I found a job in the services department of an international school, and must say i'm enjoying the fact that i can still use my people skills but my brain too...
:) ..
Theres so much we learn to do at 37000 ft and its not only about serving tea and coffee. You would be amazed at how much more experience you can bring on a job after flying.

Good luck with your search

[crewmeal]

After BA ruined everything for Maersk and Duo a few years ago I decided to use my training skills by teaching English as a foreign language. I trained and obtained the basic teaching qualification in 2003, and 6 years later I'm working for the British Council based abroad with my own flat paid for and managing to save 50% of my salary each month towards my retirement.

Although working abroad is not for everyone, working for an airlines for nearly 30 years helped overcome homesickness and made me realise I could settle almost anywhere in the world, because I've experienced the travel life style.

However all that will shortly come to a close as I've decided to return home with my new partner who I hope will keep me in G&Ts for the rest of my days!!

[ArthurBorges]

TRANSLATION
If you have language skills and enjoy writing or even just crosswords and anagrams, translation is one definite option. For better or worse, the profession is unregulated and you have two advantages: knowledge of a specific field with all the jargon plus contacts who can connect you to clients as well as tell you where to put targeted ads that will reach the right sort of clients. One website is http://www.translatorscafe.com and a second is www.proz.com (http://www.proz.com;).The first has a greater concentration of friendly helpful folks while the second is for the mercilessly competitive.

JOURNALISM
Freelance journalism is a second option, especially if you've a flair for photography. Travel magazines are obvious potential clients for your insights into various destinations. Contact magazines and wire services directly -- the latter are always hungry for good feature articles.

TEACHING ENGLISH & OTHER SUBJECTS
A third option is to do an ESL or EFL certificate. The acronyms decipher into English as a Second Language and English as a Second Language. Courses vary in quality and duration, but a good one can be found that will take 90 days. Demand is high across the globe. Although salaries may appear disappointing, they usually enable a nice standard of living. Although education ministries and reputable private employers may require a four year university degree, this is not always the case and China is one exception where people skills, maturity, work experience and ability to adjust to new cultures weigh in as heavily as academic credentials. Some schools advertise with age limits and minimum degrees, but few apply them. They also really like it if you are not looking to save souls through the almighty powers of your favourite imaginary friend.

In my case, I've been with a university in Henan, China for the last four years. The salary equals USD 700/mo.taxfree x 12 months, with free 55 sq.m. flat, utilities, Internet link and one international air ticket per year against 16 x 45-minute teaching hours per week with about 15 weeks paid leave per year. In short, the entire salary is disposable income; breakfast costs USD 0.30 off a street stall or USD 2.00 at KFC -- the street food is also tastier and healthier. In first and second tier cities, expect to find Walmart, Metro, Carrefour and Spar outlets, with Metro having the best selection of European food and beverages.

The kids are also entirely endearing -- lots of culture bumps to laugh about as you get to know each other. The most important rule of thumb is to secure a government school as your primary employer because, if there is any dispute, you can appeal to a specific bureau of the provincial education ministry that will come down hard on the school if you have a case. Private schools tend to be dodgy and should be used only for moonlighting: you have been warned!

One website is Dave's ESL Cafe (http://www.daveseslcafe.com). Pay no fees to anyone. In China at least, you'll be hired on the strength of a CV (résumé) and a 10-minute telephone interview. You might also be on the lookout there for universities that offer three year degree programmes in tourism studies.

C.V./RESUME
Your CV is important. Beryl1 gives excellent advice about breaking down your job into a list of the detailed skills it involves. The art of a good CV is to be both detailed and brief: it is not an application for a security clearance but very very exactly the piece of cheese in the mousetrap. There is a selection of good templates for CVs on the Microsoft website: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT101043371033.aspx.

[nog84]

Hi everyone,


I have noticed from this post that some people may be thinking about leaving flying to start an new career and that Office Concierge may have come up.

I am thinking about working for this company, have an interview this monday but a bit unsure.

Iv been crew for nearly 5 years and think it is time for a change. Does anyone have any info on this company? I know they are offering £22.000 but having to commute into London I dont think this would be enough?

I live in Scotland, have always commuted to London so not much experience with commuting within London as I would have to relocate/

Any advise would be great! Just dont want to make the wrong decision you know.

[GlobalGirl]

Just to let you know, I saw on aviationjobsearch.com that No 1 Lounges are advertising for staff at their new Gatwick VIP lounge, various positions with salary around £15-18k. Sounds to me like a nice easy position in clean new surroundings so might suit some who have stopped flying? (Just saw that the salary for the cleaner is £14,500, I'm guessing that's pretty fab for a cleaner??)

Has anyone made the transition from cabin crew to working in the offices of an airline? As crewing, sales, catering, HR etc? If this is a good option, should we be looking to study or get new skills whilst we're flying as our 'pension' for when we stop? If so, what courses or training would give the best return for work behind the scenes of an airline?

[flying clea]

Hi,

I have been flying for 19yrs now for the same company and thought that was me until god knows when. Being in the bubble for this length of time made me sit up and think, realising that something must be out there for me.

Over the past year I've been doing my HNC/SVQ in social care which I must admit is enjoyable although sometimes difficult to fit in during the summer. I have the added bonus of getting paid for this and also getting practical experience.

Once qualified I have been given the opportunity to work sessional in this area and still work in the airline. Maybe even go part time in both which gives me the best of both worlds. Our experience in the airline industry gives us a wealth of experience from all areas and you should put this to good use and just keep plugging away until the right thing comes along. Good luck to you all who have left and made a life outside flying although I'm sure you do miss the job in some way or another.I'm sure I will if I take the big step away from flying


Cheers

[hana-86]

hey i am a new user and i have only just read your message, im an ex cabin crew member and i am thinking of making a career move too, i would be interested in having a look at the website you recommended. thank you hana:ok:

[easy6826]

I flew for easyjet for nearly seven years, but reluctantly accepted redundancy upon my base closure last year. I had previously worked for a train company, and have now since gone back there in a different role and am loving every minute. there is definately life after flying.

[chipmunkj]

I worked as cabin crew for over 36 years for a major UK airline , retiring last year.
In the 90's when my 3 kids started full time scholl, I re-trained as a swim teacher with the ASA while flying part time (Job Share).
Since retirement last year, i have been a full time student (BA Hons).
Folks love to run cabin crew down, IMHO because they know they would not have the stamina or the innate ability to do the job.
Dont sell yourself short - there is life after flying what ever your age and cabin crew have far more ability than they are ever given credit for !:)

[Off Stand]

I have been flying for 10 years and looking to change careers. I have been for quite a few interviews for recruitment consultant and having flown as cabin crew is definitely not a minus point. We already have the core skills (such as communication, team work, interpersonal skills, flexibility) that can be adapted into so many different jobs.

[Floaty]

I am 39 and I only have some Open University studies but three languages. Before flying, I worked in an office, then became a sports teacher. In 2003 I started flying. Seven years and 2 airlines later, I left BA with a miserable severance package, but 2 years of staff travel in my pocket.

After a bit of travel and a lot of spending, I decided to put my CV on Totaljobs.com. At the beginning, I was offered rubbish stuff, like 7.50 £ an hour to work 4-5 hour early/late shifts at LHR check-ins for a sub-contractor. I also considered working in London as a receptionist for 17K a year, but the journey was ridiculously expensive and depressing... :uhoh:

Several weeks later, I was approached by a luxury brand of mobile phones, belonging to a massive multinational. I was not seriously interested in anything other than flying at the time, but they were adamant I had the right background in customer service and the languages they were looking for... so I reluctantly said yes. When I started, I thought 'I won't last a week!!'. Fact is, I immediately started earning 30K, compared to my 18K when flying... and that was a biiiiiig jump.

I work long hours, but it is self-inflicted. I picked up a lot of self-drive and motivation from my flying experience, which means I'm constantly challenging myself and others to find new ways of doing things, increasing performance and developing better processes (blah blah blah). Apparently I am an escalation manager, but I never liked the word 'manager', so I just do my best, respect everyone and think outside the box, whilst remembering the dangers of complacency.

For as long as they appreciate me, I stay, otherwise I can always join another airline. I'm happy either way. To my advantage, I now know that there is always something around the corner that I can do. I feel resourceful and skilled, despite my lack of qualifications on paper. :\

[Jillytots]

Hi All,

I've recently finished flying and am just about to start college studying beauty therapy. After all these years of having my nails done etc., I've decided to do it myself.

One of the great things is that all my flying buddies are hopefully going to be my new clients!

It's also amazing what a manicure and pedicure can be swopped for as well!!!

Tots. :ok:

ps. I'm 36

[acchaladka]

I kind of got engrossed in this thread for some reason on my day off, so pardon this SLF intrusion.

Chin up! Speaking as someone who hires and fires and also plays SLF to your wagon dragon (tit for tat!), I have to say there are excellent diligent hardworking CC and then there are...louts. You all know what I mean I believe.

The previous poster who ran through the "you have skills, emphasize those" routine regarding applying for work elsewhere, is bang on. I would be very glad to hire some of the (especially multilingual) FA's who I've seen at work who have been professional, on time, have thought in advance about what I might want as a customer, hit their marks at the right time, etc. As an interviewer I'm going to think that you are pretty good at managing personalities in customers (from drunks to grabbers to prima-donnas) and workmates (from demanding to just mean). I could see a lot of qualities to hire.

What I would be looking out for is the mean FAs, the one who have stayed in a job they hate and become meaner and meaner over the years, as well as the ones who can't cope on a routinely bad day - people who really should change jobs in other words.

Accha

PS. I'm 39 in two weeks! [Because everyone else was putting up their age eh? :} ]

[mooguy]

Gosh you have all given me food for thought-yet again. I was thinking of studying acupuncture, yet recently an old friend of mine with loads of Airline and VIP flying exp got a job at a Handling agency at Schipol which she enjoysno the job of her dreams, but she's happy. I was feeling I had no options....

All these messages-from way back, are great to read again, there's a lot of you out there making sense. I now feel in a better position to make a choice.

Cheers:D

[wannabecc]

I've always wanted to be cabin crew (and still dream about it at 42 :)). I've got accounting, administrative, PA and advanced spreadsheet documentation experience (preparing reports for Analysts). You think an airline would want to hire someone like me as Cabin crew, with barely no customer experience at all. I think not (and especially not at 42!!) := Ah, but one can dream can they not!! :O

Back to the topic! The best thing you could do is get some basic Microsoft Office Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Outlook training asap! With your already great customer experience, alongwith these basic office computing skills you could be on your way :ok: Some great customer service jobs out there are Client Service Representatives, Bank Tellers in the Finance Industry and of course tons of other jobs in the Hospitality Industry. But I know, having worked at 39,000ft who wants to work on the ground :hmm:

[gallie girl]

I quit flying in 2003 after 7 years.. I went back nursing which has been good, but I am over it again, and I am sick of paying top dollar for holidays! Thinking of going back flying ;-)

[homesick rae]

I quit 9 years ago and started my consultancy helping companies with training and recruitment - a bit of luck and opportunism took me into the Sales and Leasing and Business development, the latter which I am still doing now. I have had some great experiences and have learnt the hard way in some respect. I am now employed full time doing Business development for Financial Services Change Management company, working on the resourcing side and managing a small team. Couldn't be happier!

Cheers

HR

[DollyM]

Hi I have read with interest the posts. I myself took the opportunity while flying to study with the OU. I graduated with a BSc (Hons) and in effect got paid to study often on a Caribbean Beach. The OU offer a host of flexible courses that are great for those who work especially fliers. I also obtained a Fitness Qualification at a time when unpaid leave was given. So my advice is enjoy your time flying and if you are not staying forever use the time to pursue something else. My first course for my degree I did out of interest in the subject, it was just something to do while I sat on Stand by an hour from the Airport, (pre mobile phone contact).

When the time came after 13 years of flying I was recruited in to the role of a Health Club Manager. I now run a business with a turnover of over half a million and 4% growth month on month in a recession. My paper qualifications were there but I was appointed because of all the various skills I had acquired during my flying time. It is true being an FA gives you a whole host of skills that you don't realise you are acquiring until you stop and mind map it. There are very few jobs that expose you to so many different skills. HR, First Aid, Problem Solving, Project Managing, Customer service, sales, Working under pressure, Working to deadlines, Thinking on your feet, Dealing with a host of personalities, Building a Team Quickly, influencing skills, working to procedures, organisation skills, prioritising. The list goes on and on!

Don't sell yourself short! Early in my career a disgruntled passenger said to me "You are a glorified waitress in the sky" At the time I had no answer and was upset as in a way he had a point. I would love to meet him now to thank him as it was his caustic comment that spurred me in to action and got me to where I am.

I wish you well and if you have doubts as to where to go next why not speak to a life coach. They have a way of making you think out side the box.

Good Luck!

[20yearsexcrew]

After reading the replies I though I would post my experience !! 20 years with emirates bmed and ba,hit 40 and flying back from Glasgow to heathrow breakfast service on my hands and knees 5 miles up and pushing plastic trays into a trolly !!!! Well that was it,my mind was made up I had fun but it was over the fat lady had sung ,What could I do I had to leave no idea what until a polish plumber came round to quote on a small plumbing job ,and wanted £2.500, soon as he was out the door on was on the Internet and booked a plumbing course.every body who knew me laughed and I don't blame them,still I did the course and ended up with carillon amassive construction company,did it for 18 months,then went travelling for 10 months,didn't like the job good money but not me, so I put myself on another course this time barbering ,I've now ended up in one of londons oldest barbers shops and love it, still get to work in a team,and talk to people,also lots of part time work and very flexible ,it's been a total roller coaster ride but worked out in the end.There is life after flying it just takes a while finding what it is :rolleyes:

[nesboy 1976]

I spent 10 years flying as cc and thoroughly enjoyed every minute. Unfortunately i was made redundant and the decision to leave was made for.

I was lucky enough to work for some smaller carriers and got exposed to different elements, such as training, auditing and management. I've recently moved in health and safety in what is classed as heavy industry (steel) and even though initially i hated it with every bone in my body i put what i learnt from flying into it. I took a lot of stick about being crew from everyone in my current organisation until they realised what i brought and now they want to hear 'stories' of my time within aviaition

I'm now on the final stages of my post graduate diploma in OHS and even though i still miss the buzz of passengers and service i don't think i could go back to being crew. I do miss aviation and would love to get back intoit but within a health and safety role.

I remember my father giving me some advice was i was a cocky 16 year playing football and i was offered a contract with a different club and i didn't take it because none of my mates (at the time) played there....and his reply was if you don't try son, you'll never know. That's stayed with me since. Have a go, if it's not for you, move on.

I hope this helps anyone looking at changing careers.

[luckyescape]

After 25 years in the air I have requalified as an adult education teacher, I am having the best time ever and I cannot believe that I thought flying was so amazing. Once you stop you realise that flying is full of shallow and narrow minded people, no fault of theirs, we just become isolated in our little bubble. I am happier and more fulfilled and guess what...so much fitter as my sleeping regime has normalised. I was 47 when I had my big career change...don't let anything hold you back...think outside the leisure industry too!

[myt]

Hi, this is on a slightly different note, I left flying and have regretted it ever since,

I was a nurse, got a job as cabin crew and flew for 5 years I was unsure wether to leave or go part time and I unfortunately made the wrong decision and left. I then had 2 children and spent a couple of years looking for a p/t flying position to no avail and reluctantly resigned myself to the fact that I would never fly again. I am still nursing and have my own ebay business which does really well.

But.... you got it!! I want to go back flying, I am 42 now (eeek) but I know airlines still employ people of this age, I am not very flexible, I need to be based at Manchester or Liverpool, no long haul, prefer to work week ends, not asking a lot I know! both my children will be at school next year so I have started looking at different airlines, I quite fancy Flybe although if I had to be away for 5 weeks training it may be difficult as I do not have help with my children. I would probably get another cc job as I am a nurse children's and adult it's just finding an airline that would best suit my lifestyle, for example early morning flights would be great as I am then home late afternoon.

If any one has any ideas please let me know, as I think I have now come to terms with the fact that I will never get over the flying bug and would like to try again.

Thanks

[Dolley]

myt

I doubt very much that you will find an airline to be accommodating you in the way you need it.
All will need you to go on a several week-long training course. And as far as I know, all of them require you to start full-time, and then you will probably need to join a long waiting list for part time. They will all expect you to fly all times of day, 24/7/365 no matter if you are part time or full time.
If your home life restricts you that much in how flexible you can be for an airline, you will probably not have a good time returning to the industry. I would even go as far as saying it's near impossible!

Having said that, that shouldn't discourage you! If you really want to return, see what you can do about your private life, and if it's not working now, try again in a few years time when the kids are a bit older and your circumstances have changed! Good luck either way!

[L2X]

I was a flight attendant for 7 years. At times I loved it, at other times I hated it. When the thought of spending another weekend (or birthday/wedding/nye) away from home became too much I thought, what else can I do? I thought nursing could be for me. I studied for 4 years whilst still flying full time, graduated as a nurse and went straight into the OR. My years of flying taught me how to interact with people and helped me get a job in my chosen field with no experience. No, it wasn't all smooth sailing, it was a steep learning curve and there were many times I though I'd made a mistake. But 2 years on I couldn't be happier. I am at home every night, I am no longer fatigued, I get to see family and friends more often and most of all I do a job that I find challenging and rewarding in so many ways, and for me that is worth more than a paycheck! Don't be afraid..

[123Beez]

Hi ya, I hope you still read this forum. I was havin a nosey at the discussions on what to do next after flying. You mentioned a company that employes ex crew as receptionists? Could you give me the website please.

I'm in 20 minds as to what to do, leave flying or not!

Many Thanks
Zoe

[outsidethebubble]

Hi all,
This thread seems to have died in 2012. Does anyone have any idea of what's going on for ex crew - especially in Asia - as age is such a big factor here. 'The younger the better' is the motto here :ugh:

[Courtney87]

Hi you said to reply if interested in the agency dealing with jobs for people after flying I was wondering if you could send me those details please my email address is [email protected]. Thank you

[riotanga]

Im with you outofthe box! Where did this thread dissappear to? How can it be revived? Due to a unfortunate accident I had to leave united airlines after over 20 years of flying. Im so sad as ive been racking my brain over the past uear and a half as to what I could possibly do at 52 ...that would compare at all to flying. Im all healed now and cannot fathom starting at the bottom again at this age. This forum has given me a couple of ideas perhaps but nothing that pulls at my heartstrings. I loved my career and spent so many years getting to the place I was in the company...finally a senior crew member off reserve and able to hold an international sked and finally making decent money..now all gone..where do I even start to begin. One good piece of news is that I still have passes...I have been a flight attendant my whole adult life and never got married..anyone have any ideas out there. I have thought of working in another country...but what would I do? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. ;)

[DoorsAreArmed]

Hi All! Remember it is 4.2 times harder to get a job as a Flight Attendant than it is to get into Harvard! (source: Bloomberg).
If you are thinking of leaving flying as I did (stupidly without another job lined up) then think about exactly what you want to do next!
You need to consider the "factor X" that got you the the job in the first place, keep that heads ups attitude and get some additional training. I'm luckily in a role now with a Digital Marketing/app development company after doing some study in Marketing and Public Relations. We have the personality for these types of roles. Don't get all misty eyed about going back to flying, the conditions have changed, you will be junior to a 20 year old with 6 months flying experience, it will hurt, especially the lower pay scale you once had as well as the staff travel benefits or "tickets".
You have some brilliant "transferable skills", find those types of companies that want them, corporates that hire ex army/navy/airforce/emergency services, people that know process and procedure. Train up in the Microsoft Suite, it looks good on your Resume (Word, Excel, PowerPoint etc), everything that you would use day to day in a corporate role (assuming that is what you want to do). Get a job as a Sales Representative in companies you can use your personality or a Marketing or Public Relation job. You are cool, you are edgy and none of your new office buddies will ever understand that crew party you had in that hotel in LAX, that movie star you met on the flight to Paris or that passenger in 23A that whispered that offer made you blush! Think twice about leaving flying because the people you will be working with next are your pax and believe me they are dull :ugh:Having said that, I am loving having every weekend, Christmas and Easter off, life is predictable, sleep patterns are regular and money is better. 14 years with Qantas and I now realise that when I travel regularly for work, I still critique every safety demonstration, service standard, boarding procedure, meal without a bread roll, that will drive you to want to work for the inflight product department, you have to let go, LCC is the future! Unfortunately accountants are running the show, this will not change in our life time. Good luck in your next adventure!

[rigpiggy]

I just hired a 36 yo low timer x FA. If you really want it, you'll find a way. Btw ka100/1900 FO

[nity]

Hi, Thanx for the information..it was really helpful. Although even I am staying in London and have more than 6 years of flying experience but little confused of what should I pursue further. could you please share the liverpool hotel details so that I could try my luck there.
Thanks in advance ;)

[CoExGal]

To Riotanga:

Delta is hiring, and they do not have reserve! They have six A Days a month, which are when you are on call. You can do all six days at once or split it three and three. That is fair and beats being on reserve for twenty years.

I live in England now and used to fly for Continental/United Express. I started at age 48 and flew for ten years. I am now 61, look 45, and was just invited for an interview with FlyBe Airlines, the largest regional in Europe. I am very excited, as I miss flying.

I also applied to Delta, as since they don't have reserve, and they don't have a minimum hourly flying requirement per month, I had planned on trading most of my trips, flying as little as possible, and commuting from England. I made it to the video interview, and that was it. I will reapply in six months.

Keep us posted on what you decide, and I hope you see this post!

[EK_SFS]

Hi all, I am 36 years old male, and I am from the USA.

I flew for Emirates for over 8 years and, after quitting, worked in a couple of customer service roles ( call center sales support, customer account management), but I came to conclusion that all job that have an element of directly dealing with customers suck.

So I decided to go back to school, now into my 3rd year of undergrad degree process ( yes at the age of 36!) and I have had several job offers, chose one, and now interning for a major insurance company in IT applications development role.

It is important to calculate your next move when you are still thinking about quitting, as it took me 3 years of well-paid Emirates job to save the amount of money required to pay tuition and board at the US public university. Choose the field which will give you the *guaranteed* job: computer science, technology, engineering, teaching ( esp bilingual etc), nursing.