ELT Required for France/Germany on G reg aircraft ?

[Hover Bovver]

Pretty much as the title suggests , what is the requirement for an ELT in G registered helicopter flying in FRance or Germany ?
Cheers
HB

[biggles99]

None, HB,

you are flying on CAA rules and regs. The rules go with the nationality of the aircraft, not the nationality of the air molecules.

Silly, but that's the way it is.

Big Ls

[biggles99]

Hi Eddie,

you make a fair point.

I was referring to EASA compliant States, for aircraft that have a ARC, or C of A, a C of R and for pilots with JAR licences.

In practice, this pretty much means virtually anyone in the EU flying a EU-Reg (no it doesn't exist yet but it will) aircraft.

If you are flying a permit-to-fly (experimental) or ULM type of machine, you don't come under the same rules, so the above doesn't apply.

And if you have a NPPL or equivalent, then again, different rules apply.

hope this helps,

Big Ls.

[EESDL]

.............so does same logic apply for Mode S requirements for Dutch airspace , for example?

[puntosaurus]

And yes, from around march this year you need an ELT to fly in French airspace.

[Bertie Thruster]

And quite handy for the water crossing before you even get to the other side.

It is quite distressing to find the pilot from a successful water ditching, 24 hours after that water landing, uninjured (apart from being dead). A beacon could have been his life line. He looked ever so peaceful floating in his lifejacket, shirt and trousers.

[It Gets Worse]

Regardless of whether an ELT is required to achieve certification of the helicopter design, or required to achieve an ARC or CofA, there may also or instead of, be a requirement declared by the operational chaps!!

If so, the requirement for ELT is an operational one.

Operational requirements relating to operating in French airspace will be declared in such documents as France's "Rules of the Air" and in their AIP etc etc.

As such, these requirements will be applicable to anyone operating in French Airspace, regardless of State of Certification, State of Registry, CofA, ARC etc etc.

It is no different from the old French requirement for cars to have yellow headlights!!! These were not required for design approval outside France, nor required by the UK on UK registered cars. However, if you wanted to drive your UK reg car in France, you had to have yellow headlights!!!

Do you remeber those little bottles of yellow paint with a brush in the lid..like tippex!! Those were the days.

Best regards,

It Gets Worse!

[Hyds Out]

Here is a link to the French AIP detailing requirement for an ELT or PLB, so at least there is a cheaper option.

www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr/dossier/aicfrancea/AIC_A_2008_10_EN.pdf (http://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv.fr/dossier/aicfrancea/AIC_A_2008_10_EN.pdf)

In some countries, having an ELT can negate having to submit a flight plan for VFR flights (Italy springs to mind).

HO