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Frank Arouet
10th May 2009, 04:35
Interesting reading.


ICAO Universal Safety Oversight Audit Programme.
Final Report- CASA. Dated January 2009,

http://www.icao.int/fsix/AuditReps/CSAfinal/Australia_USOAP_Final_Report_en.pdf (http://www.icao.int/fsix/AuditReps/CSAfinal/Australia_USOAP_Final_Report_en.pdf)

Joker 10
10th May 2009, 05:04
Frightening reading, our esteemed regulator does not score well at all.

denabol
10th May 2009, 05:30
If as 'Kyle' says this is a negotiated document the original report must have been red hot.

How to read the ICAO audit of air safety oversight in Australia - Plane Talking (http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2009/05/10/how-to-read-the-icao-audit-of-air-safety-oversight-in-australia/)

I read his follow up too and I'm surprised this isn't on the ABC.

Undertrained, underfunded & out of touch, the ICAO audit of Australian air safety oversight - Plane Talking (http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2009/05/10/undertrained-underfunded-out-of-touch-the-icao-audit-of-australian-air-safety-oversight/)

Wonder if the budget will bash the airlines with a another surcharge to pay for this or stuff things more.

airtags
10th May 2009, 05:59
the report is less than endearing and yet again underscores the weakness when legislative regimes are undermined by unaccountable and unscrutinized instruments.

In effect, we have a parliament endorsed system that prescribes oversight and control methodologies yet in reality downstream departmental process enables authorities to gold pass operators so as to bypass/downgrade/disregard these prescriptions through the use of regulatory instruments.

Would love to see what the Ministerial flunkies negotiated out in the prelim document!

Lets hope that the green paper wish lists are measured up with the report's findings.

Think it is time to stop using pollie motivated bilaterals to water down saftey standards and re-establish a totally transparent, accountable standard that is common to everyone that flies Australian skies...........

AT

Joker 10
10th May 2009, 10:42
AH Dream time if one thinks this govenrment will respond the Minister is a dill, professional aviators should be really concerned, we are but one lvel above Indonesia, really scary stuff.

Frank Arouet
11th May 2009, 01:19
It would seem Infrastructure don't see it as important enough to give more than a link to.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/international/universal.aspx (http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/international/universal.aspx)

trashie
11th May 2009, 03:51
While all FOIs and AWIs are required to undergo an ISO 9001 quality/safety lead auditor program, CASA itself does not comply with any quality system that would require appropriate training records and training programs and appropriate resources to function professionally..

What credibility does CASA have then when audits of organisations find similar discrepancies that have been identified in its own backyard. Sadly, there are many dedicated people in CASA who will be tarred with the Government, organisational and bureaucratic incompetencies that have created underperforming regulator.

compressor stall
11th May 2009, 13:51
Not trying to defend the regulator one bit, but Mr Sandilands has it well wrong in at least one part.

In his article (published yesterday) he quotes, "... CASA wouldn’t know if there was a problem with the twin engined long haul standards of an airline as defined by the current annexes or rules of ICAO, but has promised to fix this by the end of this year."

Reading in the audit report the Corrective Action Proposed from CASA is "Regulations have been amended to address the issue of oversight of reliability programmes. Under CAO 82.0 s 9, CASA requires the operator to provide a reliability programme prior to the issue of an EDTO approval, while amendments to s 11, requires that the reliability programme be reported to CASA. These changes come into effect from 1 July 2008." (my bolding).

So CAO 82.0 came into effect mid last year and that rectified the issue, hardly the "end of this year". The reg is here (HTTP://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/download/orders/cao82/8200.pdf) - scroll to page 27.

There is plenty of other damning stuff in there Mr Sandilands, why erroneously sensationalise the one that is already fixed, and in a timely manner? :ugh:

Lodown
11th May 2009, 14:13
Hopefully this report will encourage changes for the better, but I doubt it. Nothing really changes until a Royal Commission and a politician or two has his/her face on TV.

Joker 10
12th May 2009, 01:47
Word has it the FAA are looking very closely at the report and considering the status of Australia.

BuzzBox
12th May 2009, 02:37
Word has it the FAA are looking very closely at the report and considering the status of Australia.

They should have a damned good look at themselves while they're at it! Operate into any major US airport and it's like walking into a 3rd world dump.

Quokka
13th May 2009, 14:18
They should have a damned good look at themselves while they're at it! Operate into any major US airport and it's like walking into a 3rd world dump.

... not according to Mr Smith and his friends.