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Rollingthunder
5th May 2009, 20:05
I'll admit. I post a few piccies.

If anyone has a problem with size of said piccies. please contact me. Don't go bothering a mod.

I have a 15.4 inch widescreen laptop and don't post anything larger than 800x600.

Is 800x600 a problem for anyone?

puzzled in the rain.

isi3000
5th May 2009, 20:38
Has someone actually complained about something so trivial? :ugh:

I have one of those teeny-tiny laptops, so I usually have to scroll across to see full pictures but it doesn't bother me at all.

gingernut
5th May 2009, 20:43
Inn'it some'at to do with people who don't have broadband?

And the people who don't, are likely to recieve the winter fuel allowance. So post whatever size ya'want. They'd be better wearing wooly hats.

8 thousand by 6thousand, we don't care.:ok:

Whirlygig
5th May 2009, 20:47
And the people who don't, are likely to recieve the winter fuel allowance.
a) My mother receives the winter fuel allowance yet has broadband for all her surfing needs.
b) There are still some areas of the UK that don't have (and likely never will except via satellite) broadband. Some of these areas are not that rural and quite affluent.

Cheers

Whirls

gingernut
5th May 2009, 20:52
Oh Okay, I apologise:)

west lakes
5th May 2009, 20:57
As far as I can see in the advice in the Nostalgia Forum 800x600 is the preferred size.

I have my photobucket account set to resize to this as I upload from my PC

tony draper
5th May 2009, 21:09
My broadband is now so fast I can download coal, therefore do not need winter fuel allowance.
:)
Fiber optic,one understands some poor people are still surfing on copper.

ChristiaanJ
5th May 2009, 21:25
RollingThunder,
A fair amount of people still use 1024x768 monitors (800x600 ones now have virtually disappeared, I would say).

I do, can't afford one of them fancy 21" Ģ400 flat screen, and for an ancient like me, 1024x768 is about the 'readability' limit on a 17".

So IMHO 800x600 for forum pictures is fine, taking the left-right margings and sidebars into account. On some forums even 960x720 is just about OK.

CJ

Rollingthunder
5th May 2009, 21:34
You reading this Flaps?

lomapaseo
5th May 2009, 22:16
Picture size affects, download time to display, screen size and adjustments including word wrap in the text that you wish to read. Having a giant screen like mine (2560x1600 pixels) does nothing to help in reading forums. I still get PO when my text disapears off the text box size that I have chosen for my speed reads of the forum. I do however appreciate access to higher resolution pictures of a technical nature that I can pick out details of interest. Links help this as long as a lower resolution picture is displayed in the thread.

I recognize that the 800X600 size is a compromise that keeps most of us happy so I try and obey it when I post pics.

many forum boards software are set up to limit the pic size in order to keep most happy

bnt
6th May 2009, 00:16
Be aware that image size is not the only factor that makes an image file big. There's also a JPEG Quality that makes a huge difference. A picture straight out of a camera might have that set to 95%, but you can drop that to about 80% if you're creating a copy for the web.

PPRuNe Radar
6th May 2009, 00:22
It's a worldwide site ... so accept that not everyone has the same privilege.

Some people post pictures which don't suit everyone and are way too big for screens all over the world.

If you want to display your wares or promote your pics, then accept the fact that we don't want huuuuuuge resolutions. Take a few moments to put them in an acceptable resolution of 800x600.

Whoever you are :ok:

Dushan
6th May 2009, 00:32
Oh for ****'s sake has it come to accommodating the 3rd world again? I surf the forum on my iPod Touch or a tiny NetBook and the picture size is not a problem. Yes I know speed, but there is an option on your browser to NOT download pictures and go to them selectively.

SoundBarrier
6th May 2009, 04:46
I use a small screeny thing too! 800x600 is just fine. I have no idea why that size would be a problem for anyone, even said IPOD users.

Come on, be realistic, we're all on broadband, even Drapes has dropped copper. Stop complaining, enojy the piccies and I'm always up for more!

Loose rivets
6th May 2009, 05:25
see what you mean now RT get fastStone photo resizer it's free and very good. aim for about 125k file size. That fits okay.

Rollingthunder
6th May 2009, 05:28
The jury seems to be split.

Is 800x600 max.......good enough or not?

Answers, yes or no on a postcard please.

Rollingthunder
6th May 2009, 05:55
"Rolling,
I do believe I have asked you before, but in case I haven't... Would you please please pretty please make sure that the myriad pictures you post are small enough to fit the page? So that people are not forced to read a page by continually scrolling back and forth?
We get a lot of complaints about picture size.
Some people, out of inexperience, don't know any better, so we fix their pics.

You do know better, so I honestly donīt think copying, storing, uploading and resizing your pictures almost every day should be part of my unpaid job.
You can and should do that yourself, wouldn't you agree?


Please don't take offense, none is intended, but I admit I am getting a tad irritated with this.

best regards,
flapsforty"

Irritated and no offence, but not private anymore
nothing over 800x600 and you complain.
tell me appropriate sizing, please
Never mind, no more pics.

hellsbrink
6th May 2009, 06:29
Lost:-

Toys from RT's pram.

Last seen being hurled at high speed in an easterly direction.

If found, please return to.........

Blacksheep
6th May 2009, 07:21
And the people who don't, are likely to recieve the winter fuel allowance. I just got mine. In May. When I applied for it last September. I think the Department of Pensions & Social Security haven't got broadband yet.

BS
Silver Surfer
On-line since 1990 (when a bulletin board was exactly that)

henry crun
6th May 2009, 09:29
SoundBarrier: As Whirlygig has pointed out, not everyone is on broadband, and that does not just apply to the UK.
There can be valid reasons why some people are still on copper.

Perhaps you have always been on BB or have forgotten what it is like, so let me remind you.
It is slooooooooooooooooooooooow, particularly with photos, even if they are are at the recommended resolution.
If I post pics I will try resize them down to 30kb or under so they will load quickly; the reduction in definition is small.

If there is a page containing a lot of photos my dialup doesn't load each one in turn, it tries to load the whole damn lot together, which results in a few pixels of each being downloaded at a time.
There might be a post of text lower down the page that I want to read but it is no use scrolling down to that because as soon as I read part of it the screen jumps back further up the page to where a another line or two of the photos has appeared.

The result is that I will skip those pages containing a lot of pics becauseI cannot be bothered waiting for 15 - 20 minutes just to view photos of dogs.

Having said all that, I accept that those of us unfortunate enough to still be on dialup are probably very much in the minority so we just have to grin and bear it.

Rollingthunder
6th May 2009, 09:33
No more piccies.

Will talk to Girl With A Stick instead.

She's nice

vonbag
6th May 2009, 09:48
Good day all!

Hi Rollingthunder,
No problems with me! 800 x 600 dpi (with pic dimension smaller than 100 Kb) sounds fair enough.
On the other hand, as pointed out earlier, if there is a really high definition
picture one wishes to present,
for instance to show the smaller details of a certain object (etc.),
one can always resort to link it as an URL.
(As I told you yesterday night, I frequently post on another Forum
where 600 x 600 is the max.
If I exceed, my insertion is automatically refused).

As a (preventative) escamotage, when there are very large pictures being posted or there is suspect that will happen,
to make so that one doesn't have to scroll horizontally on the screen
in order to read the text, one can make many lines,
as I am doing now. ;-)

Greetings!

kiwi chick
6th May 2009, 10:03
That's right Henry, we are not all on Broadband. Having said that, RT I have no problem viewing your photos and I think as someone mentioned, you can disable images.

Keep them up, I say. :ok:


Oh, and what the heck is a fuel allowance? Are you referring to the cost of the dial-up bill being akin to a total month's power bill? :confused:

Rollingthunder
6th May 2009, 17:30
Thank you, PPRuNe Towers, Appreciate the message.

No piccies until I hear from Flaps and her reasoning on the subject. Still irritated.

Wholigan
6th May 2009, 18:31
Hey RT - I consider you to be a bit of a mate, but if some people have problems, then personally I would be nice and make it so that no people have problems. It is not exactly difficult to ensure that pics fit the page for everybody. I wouldn't get hung up on the fact that 800 x 800 (or any other size) "seems to be OK for most people". As I said, if it is not OK for some, then simply reduce the size a bit. Who will care if it is 600 x 600 (or 500 x 500 for that matter) after all? We are not entering a photo competition here, we are merely showing people some fun stuff either in our life or stuff that has amused us. I personally don't need to be able to examine every single pixel and compare the quality with stuff in the Tate gallery. Incidentally - and it's not only your pictures - I am on broadband and I still have to scroll left and right sometimes to read all the other posts on the page that has a large picture on it.

Also - and this is my opinion only of course - I would be seriously peed off if someone publicly posted a PM I had sent them. Incidentally, and again personally, I don't see anything in that PM to cause a major upset.

You may now be peed off with me for expressing my opinion on this (and I certainly didn't intend to pee you off), but I am - after all - entitled to an opinion.

Rollingthunder
6th May 2009, 18:34
You are entitled, i'm not pissed off (about that)

No more Pics

lomapaseo
6th May 2009, 20:51
Trust me, boys, size matters!

Who's:confused:

RiscOS
7th May 2009, 04:56
Henry Crun, I believe your "due south" is not too far from my location.

Don't know who your ISP is but I well remember downloading pages exactly as you described until I signed up to my ISP's (slingsh*t) "Xcelerator" service, a cunning compression routine, I think, which increases dial up download speeds between 5 and 12 times, and costs peanuts. Worth checking whether your ISP has a similar service.

Highly recommended. :ok:

RiscOS

Howard Hughes
7th May 2009, 05:42
Trust me, boys, size matters!;)

And this picture taken from another thread, seems to be about just the right size...;)

https://www.mylifetime.com/files/images/a%20week%20with%20dds.jpg

kiwi chick
7th May 2009, 06:40
Those undies need pulling up, she's showing some builders crack :confused:

MagnusP
7th May 2009, 11:00
At home, I use FireFox which seems to resize pictures to fit the frame, unless you specify the full resolution. Doesn't help with the bandwidth issue, though.

Talking of resizing pictures, and at a risk of thread drift, why is it that, while I have A4 and 4x6inch photo paper in the printer, my wife insists on going to Ikea and buying picture frames with mounts cut for 5x7? :{

bnt
7th May 2009, 12:39
Why not do what I did in this post (http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/353600-really-really-boring-totally-pointless-snippets-information-thread-mk-xii-422.html#post4906818)? Embed a small version of a picture and link it to the full-size version? I'm using an online photo gallery that automatically generates the smaller picture on demand, but you can also do it manually if you have to.

That JPEG is 400x300 (16kB), while the full size is 1600x1064 (138kB), both at JPEG Quality at 85%. So, if your 800x600 file exceeds 100kB, or even 80kB, you ought to be looking at the JPEG Quality setting. I don't mind 800px wide, but I find 400px wide is enough to get the message across for embedded pictures.

Baldur
7th May 2009, 12:56
For most fora the optimal size to avoid scroll bars on 15inch screens is 640x480.
800x600 will fit normal webpage on 15inch screen but will cause scroll bars in most forum formats due to built in margins.

In 2005 almost 20% of all monitors were 15inch but this figure has changed considerably and the "average" monitor was 17.6 inches by November 2007.

The problem with larger size photos in fora is that text will follow the expanded margins and you will therefore often (if you have 15inch screen) have to use vertical scroll bar to read full text on following posts.

Personally, I try to use 640x480 out of courtesy to others.