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helicopter-redeye
25th Apr 2009, 01:09
With due regard to the ANO and EASA, who owns the engine and airframe logbooks for an aircraft/ helicopter? The owner or the maintenance organisation?

If the owner wishes to have the logbboks in his/her possession for a period of time is this allowed under EASA & the new maintenance regulations or is it forbidden to release the documents from the maintenance organisation?

ericferret
25th Apr 2009, 08:29
Property of the aircraft operator.

Perfectly acceptable for owner to hold them and provide them when maintenance is due.

nodrama
25th Apr 2009, 11:25
Indeed, the logbooks belong to whoever owns the hardware. If an engine is sold, for example, the logbook is part of it.

As for the owner holding the logbooks, fine....just remember that someone has to keep them up to date. Hrs, landings, cycles have to be recorded. It's no use handing a logbook to a maintenance organisation with a pile of tech log pages attached and saying, "Just add them up, would you!"

matkat
25th Apr 2009, 12:53
We could & would do but for a not small cost.:ok:
Red-eye I was tasked with doing the books for one of your now departed companies at the terminal, total air services.

md 600 driver
25th Apr 2009, 15:17
who pays for replacing and searching records when the maintence dept looses them ?

topendtorque
25th Apr 2009, 21:57
Property of the aircraft operator

who is also responsible for the aircraft maintenance, well in this country anyrate.

I know that one goes nowhere by threatening to hold log books against unpaid maintenance work, better to use a workmans lien.


who pays for replacing and searching records when the maintence dept looses them ?

surely that would be the person who is caring for the books at the time, unless there was a placard such as seen at vehicle garages, 'vehicles stored at owners risk"

most of these records are backed up on hard disk, but I would venture that in an extreme case where extensive time-life part replacement ensued because of record loss, then the maintenance operators 'Hanger keepers liability' would be proceeded against.

Stan Switek
26th Apr 2009, 06:31
I was an aircraft owner at one time. I always maintained possession of the aircraft logs except when maintenance was documenting work that was done.
In addition to the originals, I always maintained 2 up to date copies of the log books just in case.