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Matari
21st Apr 2009, 12:39
The Bloodhound vs. the Eagle vs. The Bullet.

The Bloodhound World Land Speed Challenger (http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/adventure/the_challengers.cfm)

Home of the North American Eagle - World Land Speed Challenger (http://www.landspeed.com/)

Australian Bullet (http://www.aussieinvader.com/welcome.html)

On the one side, you have a high tech, new design from a proven land-speed record team (UK).

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/bulamatari/Bloodhound.jpg

And then there's...well, basically an F-104 without wings (US/Canada).

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/bulamatari/21speed-600.jpg


And the Aussies (powered by Fosters?):

http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd332/bulamatari/shapeimage_2.png

Any bets? May the best team win!

tony draper
21st Apr 2009, 12:44
They dont look anywhere near as robust as the Thrust machines, one recons they will dissentermagrate at speed.
:uhoh:

sisemen
21st Apr 2009, 12:57
I heard Roscoe McGlashan (the Aussie guy) on radio the other day. The design of his vehicle is simple but incredibly strong - it's basically built around a tube (which hasn't been done before). He reckons it will be ready before the UK version. He seemed like a genuine bloke.

anotherthing
21st Apr 2009, 13:17
He seemed like a genuine bloke.
What, you mean he had meat and two veg and wasn't really a Shiela with a strap-on??:}

Ian Corrigible
1st Aug 2009, 17:23
Bloodhound: inspiring national interest in a "low carbon world" (using a carbon fiber vehicle with carbon fiber brakes powered by an EJ200). :hmm:

Bloodhound diary: speed record (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8176470.stm)

I/C

ORAC
1st Aug 2009, 18:04
British steam car tests again (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/242025/)

http://www.autocar.co.uk/contentImages//NonCar/31799111757607234x155.jpg

A British team aiming to break the 103-year-old land speed record for a steam powered car has given its car its first test on American soil. The British Steam Car Challenge is aiming to beat the record of 127mph set by American Fred Marriott in a Stanley steam car in 1906.

See the British Steam Car Challenge picture gallery (http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsGallery.aspx?AR=242025&EL=-1)

The team had previously successfully tested its “lean, green, mean machine” at Thorney Island in the UK, and now it has run at the Edwards Air Force Base in California, the base for its record attempt. It has confirmed its bid will take place on 17 August under the supervision of officials from the FIA.

Project manager Matt Candy said, "We reached 77mph over a very short distance of just 1km which was comparable to our tests at Thorney. We were due to do a high-speed return run but the gas rig had trouble refuelling and so we had to abort it.

The team plans to replace the gas pump and will continue testing today. On its latest test run in the US, the car produced more steam than when it ran in the UK, but the majority was wasted due to a valve being left open.

The world record attempt had been planned originally for 4 August but this has now been put back to later in the month to allow the team to sort out its technical problems.

“It's important that the technical issues with the support rigs are resolved before an attempt is made, and these things can't be rushed,” said Candy.

healewis
14th Jun 2010, 11:11
Hi all, I'm new to the forums and noticed this thread := I'm waving the finger because the Australian bullet is not the car you have an image of at the start of this thread:= that cat is Aussie invader and the Bullet or The Silver Bullet RV1 is another all Australian attempt to reach 1000 mph plus! I am Co founder of The Bullet Project and my initial interest in the forums was to place a notice on here as we will soon be searching for a driver for our vehicle. We thought a Pilot would be a suitable choice as the British driver Andy Green is also a pilot and you guys experience high g forces. Anyway back to the car, heres a video on youtube of our concept :ok: YouTube - The Bullet Project presents The Silver Bullet RV1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-E8-wRoaCs)
if you would like to be considered as a driver r have any questions about our project :eek:, you can send me a PM here if you like.

Thanks for reading

Cacophonix
14th Jun 2010, 23:41
Interesting thread!

On a lighter note it is good to see that we Brits lead the green speed stakes...

Land record challenge (http://www.greenbird.co.uk/land-record)

as well as having the fastest lawn mowers

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/5/24/1274660757223/Lawn-mower-driver-Don-Wal-006.jpg

World land speed record for lawnmower broken on Welsh beach | UK news | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/may/24/lawnmower-land-speed-record-wales)

I wonder what Parry Thomas or Malcolm Campbell would have thought?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:_L7KY_Ci-ds-pM:http://bp1.blogger.com/_2Pui2okD97Y/R8to8k_yW0I/AAAAAAAAAkY/RLBc7y0zo_8/s400/pt.jpg

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:EzOMW_OtZKEJZM:http://www.daytonabeachauto.com/user-images/Malcolm-Campbell-300.jpg

Dushan
15th Jun 2010, 00:56
How dos the conveyor belt fit into this. 1000MPH, that sounds like a "low" setting.

Say again s l o w l y
15th Jun 2010, 01:38
Good luck to anyone daft enough to try for this! However, given their past history (and national bias of course) then of the three teams the only one I see with a hope of succeeding is the Bloodhound team.

When they came up against the small problem of the thing wanting to backflip at high speed according to the modelling, they were asked why this hadn't been spotted before. "Well, this IS rocket science."

I simply can't see a hacked up Starfighter being a challenge and I don't know much about the Aussie effort. Good on you for giving it a go though and fingers crossed you get the things working as you want.

onetrack
15th Jun 2010, 02:20
Our ole mate Rosco is the MAN! They should hand out awards for speed achieved, VS outlay. Rosco would win hands down. So far, it's only cost him 2 cartons of booze to build the shell of the new race car. Now all he needs is a cool $300K to build and install the engine. They all laughed when he started, but they stopped laughing when he became the first man to crack the sound barrier on land!

Bloodhound SSC has an Aussie Invader to contend with in race to break 1000mph mark | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/technology/bloodhound-ssc-has-an-aussie-invader-to-contend-with-in-race-to-break-1000mph-mark/story-e6frfro0-1225875562366)

anotherthing - If you're gonna slag off... that's Sheila, not Shiela. And, Yes - Rosco doesn't wear a strap-on... but he does have cojones the size of footballs, and probably needs a wheelbarrow to carry them around in... :ok:


Rosco and the Aussie Invader...


http://i50.tinypic.com/nf0i1y.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/9lj3m8.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/2a763aa.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2vlvdw2.jpg

Say again s l o w l y
15th Jun 2010, 10:01
Errrr. Where does this "he was the first person to break the sound barrier in a car" stuff come from, because he didn't. That was Andy Green in Thrust SSC.

onetrack
15th Jun 2010, 14:55
My apologies - that was misreading on my behalf. You're correct, it was Andy Green that was the first to break the sound barrier.
Rosco came close to holding the WLSR by hitting 643mph, one way, when the record was 633mph. However, he was unable to do the return run, as required, to claim the record.

B Fraser
15th Jun 2010, 18:08
We thought a Pilot would be a suitable choice as the British driver Andy Green is also a pilot and you guys experience high g forces.

An Athens taxi driver should suffice. Seriously though, fast instinctive reactions are more important than G tolerance and a rally driver may be worth considering. I recommend you watch the Thrust SSC video to see what Andy Green had to contend with as there were occasions when he was not in control. I recall that at some points, he was applying full opposite lock. His underwear was probably written off in the process.

Stay safe and good luck Oz !

ShyTorque
15th Jun 2010, 19:28
Interesting that the Brit project is called "Bloodhound".

I take it that it's another Ron Ayers design then; surely no coincidence. It was he who designed the Bloodhound missile, which protected UK shores during the Cold War. :)

Edit: Ah, yes, just read Richard Noble's article and he says just that.

G-CPTN
15th Jun 2010, 20:03
Ron Ayers . . . (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Ayers)

ehwatezedoing
16th Jun 2010, 02:00
Well, I hope they keep the ejection seat serviceable on the wingless F-104.

And that is not an earlier version firing downward :}

Wallsofchina
16th Jun 2010, 02:27
my initial interest in the forums was to place a notice on here as we will soon be searching for a driver for our vehicle. We thought a Pilot would be a suitable choice as the British driver Andy Green is also a pilot and you guys experience high g forces

Thanks for the offer healwis, I do a lot of fox chasing in 4WDs and there's a log of G force there to, but once I heard old Roscoe was in the race I had to admit defeat.... and the photos only show the cans you can see, not the hi tec control ones.

RJM
16th Jun 2010, 02:54
http://i45.tinypic.com/4t66ww.jpg

Technicians from Moose Jaw check the location of the rocket engine as the Canadian DHC-5D Buffalo speedster undergoes further static tests, this time with a new Canadian spruce chassis. The team is considering steerable front rollers.

healewis
14th Sep 2010, 14:59
When they came up against the small problem of the thing wanting to backflip at high speed according to the modelling, they were asked why this hadn't been spotted before. "Well, this IS rocket science."


Hi:uhoh: This problem of the rear lifting moment has been around for some time now! the reason bloodhound had to redesign their rear end and swap the Jet and rocket engine positions so late in their development, was that the information on how to stop this lifting moment is unknown.:ooh: Both the Budwieser rocket and Sonic Wind had problems with lift as did Thrust ssc.
No doubt Rosco's Aussie Invader 5R will undergo changes and The Bullet Project's Silver Bullet-RV1 will too. If we can access the technology to assist us in our efforts, then we can lessen the risks involved and reduce the risks to the drivers, I just hope it can be done safely.:rolleyes:

There are various video's on our site including the video where it shows Sonic Wind tipping up on two wheels :uhoh: Craig Breedlove was the luckiest man on earth tah day.

The Bullet Project- The Young Australia Challenge in the News (http://bulletproject.com/history.html) here's the link:ok:

TURIN
3rd Oct 2012, 13:36
Bloodhound engine test at 1300hr GMT today.

BBC Bloodhound (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19810160)

On line telemetery if you are interested.

Bloodhound Rocket Test | BLOODHOUND SSC (http://www.bloodhoundssc.com/rocket)

TURIN
26th Oct 2017, 15:06
First public run of Bloodhound today.

BBC-Bloodhound (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41747995)

KelvinD
26th Oct 2017, 19:15
I heard Andy Green on t'wireless earlier today and he was saying the amount of oomph available to him was greater than the total of all the oomph for the whole Red Arrows team!

Simplythebeast
26th Oct 2017, 20:35
I heard Andy Green on t'wireless earlier today and he was saying the amount of oomph available to him was greater than the total of all the oomph for the whole Red Arrows team!

Lets just hope that he keeps all the components of Bloodhound in tight formation throughout the 1000mph run.

Martin the Martian
27th Oct 2017, 11:17
Last summer there was an exhibition on the project in the Royal Cornwall Museum in Truro, with a public talk given by Andy Green. A fascinating evening, with the admission that though everything has been planned to the nth degree, there is still so much that they will not know until the high speed runs in South Africa are carried out.