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dogcharlietree
20th Apr 2009, 22:37
Just browsing the Nov 08 edition of Aeroplane and on page 60 there is an amazing photo of a Lincoln doing a low pass on one engine.
Any further info please. Thanks.

john_tullamarine
20th Apr 2009, 23:33
If my recollection is correct, TP Bill Herbert was the pilot ?

Apparently he was somewhat bemused by the flashier displays of other aircraft.

First run AEO .. then one out .. then two out .. then three out ... with a rapid restart following. By all accounts it got everyone's attention.

Subsequently flew for Ansett.

Centaurus would have known him from Lincoln days; Milt from RAAF TP work .. and, no doubt, both can add to the story ?

No chance of your scanning the photo for the benefit of all ?

donthaveone
21st Apr 2009, 08:06
Try to find a copy of the book "Lincoln at War", that photo appears inside with the name of the pilot. I believe this configuration was used quite often at air displays (with a procedure for "fast starting" the feathered engines during the pull up).

Centaurus
21st Apr 2009, 11:40
The photo is published as part of the Contents page in "Lincoln at War" by Mike Garbett and Brian Goulding. It shows a RAF Lincoln doing a low level beat up with No's 1,2, and 4 engines (props that is) feathered. The caption states:

"It needs nerve to take a picture like this! With three props feathered and barely eight feet off the deck - less under the HsS radome -the near -30 ton RF 346 is an awesome sight as she bears down on the cameraman at TFU Defford, September 1949, flown by New Zealander Flt Lt Alan Gibson DFM. Very low flying (usually on four engines) was part of experiments involving proximity fuse testing." The photo came from the Royal Radar Establishment.

Certainly a brilliant picture although a probable case for a Courts Martial for the pilot if he pranged trying to get the remaining props unfeathered. One wonders if the photo was worth risking life and limb..

john_tullamarine
21st Apr 2009, 22:08
.. and I had been under the impression that it was a once off ... quite amazing stuff.

Brian Abraham
22nd Apr 2009, 01:47
Seems it was a party trick on the Shackleton as well. http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/307771-shackletons.html Vaguely recall a photo of a Shack in such mode beating up a beach on a Proon thread but can't find.

Blacksheep
22nd Apr 2009, 07:18
Four engines running was a bit of a party trick for Shacks! ;)

Centaurus
22nd Apr 2009, 13:15
Four engines running was a bit of a party trick for Shacks

Lincolns too -particularly in the tropics.

Warmtoast
22nd Apr 2009, 22:50
There's a photo in the link below of a Lincoln doing a flypast with all four Merlin's feathered - albeit with the help of another engine!

File:Rolls-Royce Tyne Avro Lincoln Farnborough 1956.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Rolls-Royce_Tyne_Avro_Lincoln_Farnborough_1956.jpg)

Jeff Glasser
26th Jan 2010, 20:05
I'm new on here, and not very bright with this p.c. thingy, but someone might be able to identify this Lincoln that appears to have suffered an undercarriage collapse. It was amonst photos' taken by my father when he was in Malaya circa 1951 though I do'nt think that is where the picture was taken. I hope I've posted the picture o.k.


http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr145/Glasser2008/AvroLincolnMalaya1951-2.jpg


Jeff

Lightning Mate
27th Jan 2010, 11:59
Jeff,

Here you go mate:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/AvroLincolnMalaya1951-2.jpg

Jeff Glasser
27th Jan 2010, 13:47
Lightning mate, thanks for sorting that for me, much appreciated, I hope I can find the info' on here that explains how to post pics'.

Jeff

henry crun
27th Jan 2010, 18:15
Jeff: Towards the top of the forum page there is a sticky titled "Image Posting on Pprune--Some Tips For You."

tinpis
27th Jan 2010, 18:34
By the look of the props, it hadn't given up trying to gather a bit of forward momentum while in contact with the ground :hmm:

Jeff Glasser
27th Jan 2010, 18:35
Henry crun
thanks mate, I'll check it out. I need all the help I can get!!

Jeff

Jeff Glasser
27th Jan 2010, 18:38
Tinpis,

Odd how they are bent forwards though, The other side can't be seen, but it's almost like it was ground looping at the time!

Lightning Mate
27th Jan 2010, 18:46
tinpis,

"By the look of the props, it hadn't given up trying to gather a bit of forward momentum while in contact with the ground"

Does this describe a "silly old git" ?...... :confused::confused:

LM

JW411
27th Jan 2010, 19:32
I remember going up to the tower to file a flight plan at Gibraltar in the early 60s. They had a photograph of a Shackleton sitting on its belly in front of a large crowd.

The story I was given was that it was a Battle of Britain air display. The party trick was to go behind the Rock, build up some speed and then feather three props followed by a quick flypast on one and then rapidly unfeather the other three.

Unfortunately, one generator was u/s before take-off and guess which engine they kept running! It must have been very embarrassing having to belly land in front of the AOC et al.

dakkg651
28th Jan 2010, 12:44
I remember as a small boy at an air display at Shawbury, a Shack dropping a lifeboat (with chutes of course) on the airfield before gaining height to perform a single engine flypast. I even remember it was the number two that was still burning and turning.

I am pretty sure this was the last public airshow at Shawbury. It must have been circa 1962/63. Anyone confirm?

Noyade
1st Feb 2010, 07:02
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6757/wren.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/wren.jpg/)

TheChitterneFlyer
3rd Feb 2010, 21:36
It's perhaps this image that you're looking for?

http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab107/cortonflyer/scan0009.jpg

Herod
3rd Feb 2010, 23:14
To quote the tail-gunner from "Dambusters", "this is bloody dangerous". Brilliant picture though. :)