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Euclidessn
30th Mar 2009, 21:10
Hi..
Im a beguiner in this forum, and it is very intersting

I have some doubt about the number that indicates the power of the B737-NG

An 27K engine. What does mean the "K"
Its the same of "pounds" or something eles??

Thanks

timothy taylor
30th Mar 2009, 21:23
27000 lbs thrust i would think.

Euclidessn
30th Mar 2009, 21:42
Right, but what exactly "K" instead of "Lbs" ?? :ok:

Rainboe
30th Mar 2009, 21:44
K means thousand.

Rigga
30th Mar 2009, 21:51
Kilogramme = 1000 grammes
Kilometer = 1000 meters

Euclidessn
31st Mar 2009, 00:51
:confused: I dont understand that logic, because we can have 1 kilogrammes and 100 kilogrammes, 1000 kilogrammes and so on :confused::confused:

What do one thing have to see with another one???

Bullethead
31st Mar 2009, 05:16
G'day Euclidessn,

The letter 'K' is the standard metric abbreviation for one thousand, I'm sure you already know this. 1 kilogram being 1000 grams, 100 kilograms being 100,000 grams etc.

The abreviation you mentioned An 27K engine is a little incorrect in that it doesn't state the unit of measurement but in the aviation industry it is accepted to mean a 27,000lbs thrust engine.

Regards,
BH.
(B767 driver with 60k engines :ok:)

Eng AW139
31st Mar 2009, 05:45
I always thought that the "K" was a spin off of the resistor code 470,000 Ω or 470 kΩ....

Maybe yes or maybe no?

jxk
31st Mar 2009, 06:00
Just to confuse things even more in computer terms K is = 1024 (2**10)
As in 1 KB = 1024 bytes:-)

Eng AW139
31st Mar 2009, 06:26
SI prefixes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix)1000m10nPrefixSymbolSince[1]Short scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales)Long scale (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales)Decimal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal)100081024 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1024)yotta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotta-)Y1991SeptillionQuadrillion100000000000000000000000010007102 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1021)zetta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zetta-)Z1991SextillionTrilliard1000000000000000000000100061018 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1018)exa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exa-)E1975QuintillionTrillion1000000000000000000100051015 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1015)peta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peta-)P1975QuadrillionBilliard1000000000000000100041012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(numbers)#1012)tera (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tera-)T1960TrillionBillion100000000000010003109 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000000000_(number))giga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga-)G1960BillionMilliard100000000010002106 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000000_(number))mega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega-)M1960Million1 000 00010001103 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1000_(number))kilok1795Thousand1000

and k is lower case.......

Dual ground
31st Mar 2009, 06:33
I would hazard a guess that it is only in the last 20 to 30 years that a 27,000lb thrust engine has become known as a 27K engine? The increased use and commonality of PC's has meant that the use of K to represent 1000 has now become widespread. As for K coming from the resistor colour code that comment is slightly skewed. The resistor clolor code uses k as that is the Scientific Notation for 10*3, as Mega (M) is SN for10*6, Giga (G) 10*9and Tera (T) 10*12 etc.

deltayankee
31st Mar 2009, 08:17
and k is lower case.......


To technical people there is a difference: k (lower case) is the SI prefix for 1000 while K (upper case) is the computer geeks abbreviation for 1024.

BUT since the eighties it has gradually leaked from technical jargon to a more widespread use by normal people, so that today you see job ads mentioning a salary of "50K". Non technical people informally use K (upper case) to mean 1000.

TURIN
31st Mar 2009, 08:57
Just to add another sausage in the pan.

K or 'Kay' is often used by sportsmen to abbreviate distance. As in 'a ten kay cross country' (XC) run/glider flight/cycle ride etc. :\

Have to admit though that having been in aviation for most of my life it's only in the last couple of years that the term 'k' has become common slang for gas turbine thrust rating. Certainly in this part of the world. :ok:

Euclidessn
31st Mar 2009, 13:09
G'day Euclidessn,

The letter 'K' is the standard metric abbreviation for one thousand, I'm sure you already know this. 1 kilogram being 1000 grams, 100 kilograms being 100,000 grams etc.

The abreviation you mentioned Quote:
An 27K engine
is a little incorrect in that it doesn't state the unit of measurement but in the aviation industry it is accepted to mean a 27,000lbs thrust engine.

Regards,
BH.
(B767 driver with 60k engines :ok:)To technical people there is a difference: k (lower case) is the SI prefix for 1000 while K (upper case) is the computer geeks abbreviation for 1024.

BUT since the eighties it has gradually leaked from technical jargon to a more widespread use by normal people, so that today you see job ads mentioning a salary of "50K". Non technical people informally use K (upper case) to mean 1000.Hey People...
Thanks every body
Very intersting the explanations. Now I understand the relation between K and 1000 :ugh:

I am a 737-700/800 NG - SFP beginer co-piloto in Brazil :E.... and no one here know how to correctly answer me

I did quote 2 of more intersting explanation, but I thanks for all answers.
Soon I will bring another questions

Thanks again :ok:

dubh12000
31st Mar 2009, 21:33
I am a 737-700/800 NG - SFP beginer co-piloto in Brazil .... and no one here know how to correctly answer me

I did quote 2 of more intersting explanation, but I thanks for all answers.
Soon I will bring another questions


Nobody training you knew? This doesn't bode well.......

Euclidessn
1st Apr 2009, 00:31
We have good professionals here.
I didnt ask for every one, just for one or another person, one or another pilot.
Ive never asked it to an instructor, in fact :ok:

HAWK21M
12th Apr 2009, 04:40
23K = 23 x 1000 = 23,000lbs of thrust.
regds
MEL

Dual ground
12th Apr 2009, 07:37
HAWK21M

Did you actually bother reading the rest of the posts in this thread? :ugh:

IFixPlanes
12th Apr 2009, 08:12
HAWK21M

Did you actually bother reading the rest of the posts in this thread? :ugh:
No, it is HAWK21M :E