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M_Pilot
28th Mar 2009, 09:42
Bad news again huh!
Bodies found at Turkish helicopter crash site - CNN.com (http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/03/27/turkey.helicopter.crash.deaths/index.html)
Ghostrider203
29th Mar 2009, 11:45
Bad news :-( R.I.P
There is a rumor, that some helicopters from Switzerland and Germany
at the moment chartered and operated in Turkey, too.
Does anyone know which type is crashed there?
alouette
29th Mar 2009, 16:17
It is not a rumor, there are...:uhoh: The CNN website as usual does not provide any details on the aircraft.
However, a trusted source told me that the aircraft was a LongRanger, and the pilot was of turkish origin. Sadly enough all six occupants are dead:sad:
tecpilot
29th Mar 2009, 16:45
Accident type was a Bell 206L4.
No rumour, there are several german and swiss registered ships there among other foreign registrations. But none of them was involved in the accident.
Ghostrider203
29th Mar 2009, 17:08
Hello,
okay, thank you.
I wasn´t sure if it´s true, that some ships operated so far away from their countries.
/G203
tecpilot
29th Mar 2009, 17:19
It's of course not the nearest, but no special distance far from home. Have seen ships in Antarctica and Africa. Why not?
Yellow & Blue Baron
28th Dec 2010, 14:48
Ankara, 28 December 2010 17:32
CHARTER HELICOPTER MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAD TRACKING DEVICE FITTED
A government report released today has determined that the Bell 206L LongRanger 4 helicopter in which the leader of Turkey's Great Union Party died on 25th March 2009 may have had a problem being located due to accident-indiced damage or missing equipment.
http://aviation-safety.net/photodata/59023_49e100b72f98cTC-HEK.jpg
The Turkish LongRanger-4 TC-HEK which crashed on March 25th 2009 killing 5 people
Yazıcıoğlu, BBP Sivas Provincial Chairman Erhan Üstündağ, Deputy Provincial Chairman Yüksel Yağcı, Sivas city council candidate Murat Çetinkaya and İhlas News Agency (İHA) reporter İsmail Güneş, along with the pilot, Kaya İstektepe, were all perished while traveling from Kahramanmaraş to Yozgat for an election rally when their helicopter crashed in March 2009.
A team of three experts that were assigned to investigate the tragic helicopter accident in Kahramanmaraş by the Transportation Ministry's Civil Aviation General Directorate (SHGM) had reported that the helicopter did have the ELT device, but it had not send strong signals because its antenna was broken when the helicopter crashed.
However, a report accessed by the Toplumsal Hafıza, a news website, has revealed that the helicopter did not have the device at the time of the accident.
Referring to statements from pilot Ali İbanoğlu, from the Med-Air helicopter company, who used the helicopter carrying Yazıcıoğlu most frequently before the accident, the report said the helicopter did not actually have the ELT device.
Only one passenger survived the crash with injuries and made an emergency call. Due to harsh weather conditions at the crash site, the victims and the wreckage could be recovered only after two days, and the injured passenger was found dead five days later under snow.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/__dRpfF8qlVM/TRn_FgxuKfI/AAAAAAAABJo/4lQsLE0kioQ/tc-hek.jpg
TC-HEK was chartered by the local leaders of a minor political party, the Great Union Party to enable their leader Muhsin Yazıcıoğlu to join political rallies held the same day in neighboring provinces within the campaign for the 2009 local elections in Turkey.
Turkish party leader's helicopter lacked ELT device in crash: report [ WORLD BULLETIN- TURKEY NEWS, WORLD NEWS ] (http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=67878)
The ELT installations on the small Bells are notoriously un-crashworthy.
topendtorque
29th Dec 2010, 11:46
The ELT installations on the small Bells are notoriously un-crashworthy.
a common problem.
on the '47's we used to mount them out of harms way on the tail boom. now they are often mounted inside the xmon bay, with their own aerial folded and connected to a remote aerial which either gets whacked off in the crash, or the whole unit burns. A very fragile arrangement.
That's why we usually prefer to carry personal variants, guessing that if we survie, we can excite the ELT and throw it out.
We need a device invented, mounted externally somewhere, that is triggered either manually or atuo to eject aways a bit and go off on contact with terra firma.
No need to invent - they already exist.
Jim
tistisnot
30th Dec 2010, 00:34
And we all know that they have a very poor success rate in accidents. Aside from that ... CPI´s also drop off easily uncommanded! It does need a re-think if someone is looking for a challenge.
Runway101
30th Dec 2010, 10:18
Like what? Wrapping an airbag around the ELT? Or a helium balloon that gets released just before impact and keeps transmitting impact location, vital signs of crew and pax and some breakfast TV? :ugh:
Here is a picture of the CPT609 ADELT - Automatically Deployed Emergency Locator Beacon on the EC155:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_aYEKAAsb9TI/TRxuQzK6WXI/AAAAAAAAAVM/YAm5oWJYEoU/s400/ADELT-EC155.jpg