CPL + Ground School Or Self Study

[michael12g]

Hi Everyone,

I've taken your advice narrowed it down to a few places at Bankstown.

The going rate from Newbie to a CPL is abut 50 Grand ..rite...
This doesn't include ground schooling correct?
So i enroll at TAFE.
Flying by day and Tafe by night..
Or would you recommend self study?
:eek:

thanks:ok:

[TOPendFLYER]

self study use the bob tait books!:ok:

[michael12g]

Is that how most of the Lads do it?

:confused:

[bilko09]

Yep! And you better get used to it! :)

[Aviator500]

self study. Ground school waste of much needed cash!

[motivated68]

If you want to get through the theory quickly . find a good ground school. I managed 3 subject in 3 weeks and learnt more than what is in Books. Have done the other subjects home study .Find that it takes 3 to 4 weeks study per subject studying by yourself. Good luck

[SM227]

Depends on the time you put toward it, you can easily do HUF, MET, NAV and LAW in a week, may want a little extra for the others as they tended to be the more 'in depth' exams, but 2 weeks is more than enough for them. If your good at certain subjects you could even study them over a few days, one bloke i know is good with maths and did performance over a weekend!

[Di_Vosh]

I just posted in This thread:

http://www.pprune.org/d-g-general-aviation-questions/363189-ppl-theory-advice.html

with relation to PPL theory. IMHO, ALL the advice on that thread is just as relevant to CPL theory.

DIVOSH!

[palindrome]

You can't go wrong with Bob Tait's textbooks and his Cyberexams.

That's all you really need.

[kyandy]

Are you sure that the rate from newbie to CPL will cost only 50k ?
Anyway back to the topic, to be honest. I think study at ground school a waste of money. Since most of the study you can study by text book. Especially if you use bob tait books. You would found most of the cyber exams questions is similar or exactly the same from the text book. In general i would say about 30% or more of your cyber exams questions would be the same. The rest of the 40% would be up to you.
However one of the possitive side about ground school is that, they will make you to concentrate more on your studies. E.g. Bob tait ground school, they will help you finish 1 subject in a week. Whether if you study by yourself, you would tends to become slack and lazy.
In the end is really up to you, which method would suit you best.
Good luck with your training and study.

Regards,
Kyandy

[palindrome]

Are you sure that the rate from newbie to CPL will cost only 50k ?Probably a little more as you have to factor in and endure the on going costs while you're flying. ASICs, License, Medicals, equipment, charts, books, CASA exams ..etc

It all adds up and it isn't cheap.

As for the actual training side of things, It really depends on you. Some smaller schools are very expensive but offer much better training than some of the larger schools. I know someone who did an instructor rating recently and spent less than 40k for his entire training, that was without an instrument rating though.

[Jay Bo]

Self study is the way to go. However from my experience the Bob Tait books will get you to pass the test however in the last 2 tests i recently did for my cpl (Met and Gen Knowledge) there were a couple of questions in the actual CASA exam that was not covered in the Bobs books. One question related to isotachs and isotherms and the other was an in depth question on fire systems. Since i have both Bobs and also aviation theory centre texts, the ATC books even though they go into a lot more depth had the answers to the above questions where Bobs fell short on those two question.

[ReverseFlight]

If I had all the time and money in the world, then I would have sat a full ground school. However if you're short in either department, go for Bob Tait (as I did).

I wouldn't lose my confidence in Bob Tait just because there were a couple of questions in the exam which aren't in the textbook - Bob certainly did not write it as a test prep course (this is not the US-of-A).

As an aviator, we should try and read widely to expand our knowledge of aviation subjects. We want to keep learning as long as we fly.

[solowflyer]

Self study is the way to go in my opinion as you have to concentrate more on the subject than you would getting spoon feed the information. All the subjects I have studied so far have produced excellent results even 100% for one of them, wheres ground school sat subjects resalts have been marginal, but that's just me I guess. At the end of the day it depends on how you learn best.

[rodmiller]

self study is the way to go.

if you are only just starting your flying training you have plenty of time.

If you start studying now, aim for about 1 subject every 4-6 weeks you will have enough time before your CPL flight test to nail your KDR's.

I used BT for all my CPL including IREX and passed everything 1st time with great results.

For your ATPL's go for AFT in MCY. Im halfway through and finding AFT very good indeed.

Don't rush your study, spend the time and aim for more than just a pass.

[michael12g]

To all who replied, thanks for the help!
cheers
:ok:

[The Green Goblin]

I did 7 subjects in 8 weeks self study while doing a Nav a day also for my CPL.

You'll piss it in with Bob Tait, allow 2 weeks for performance and get as much info on echo as you can, I taught myself how to do it by working from the answers back, cross referencing the Bob Tait and ATC texts for that subject.

It will also be good practice for your ATPL's

GG

[Christo 123]

Firstly i agree with Jay Bo's post. I also received an Isotherm question in the Met exam which was not covered in Bob Tait.

I do however recommend self study and definitely Bob Tait is the way to go as he explains things in plain English and is mildly entertaining at times. ATC is always good if you want more in depth knowledge, however i don't recommend this for the exam as you may suffer a case of information overload.

Just work off Bob Tait back to front and front to back and you'll be fine. Read the CASA questions carefully as they tend to be out to trick you a lot of the times. You have plenty of time allocated so make sure you double check all your answers before clicking the submit button.

Good luck to all

[help me jebus]

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