FAA licence

[Welle]

hello aviators;

I will start a bizjet TR in the US next month, and I am planning to obtain a FAA licence additionally to my JAR ATPL.
Training Facility: Flight Safety

As far as I know, I have to take the following steps:

FAA class 1 medical
FAA Atpl theory test (mult. choice)
validation of Radio telephone operator licence
FAA SIM chechride
FAA oral TR exam

Anyone willing to give me some more advice on this issue?
Do I have to take a separate FAA checkride or can it be a combined FAA JAR checkride?

safe landings
welle

[BelArgUSA]

No problem, Welle -
xxx
You detailed your plans quite well. Getting FAA ATP quite easy.
Do the FAA Class 1 Medical. Takes 45 minutes, average $100...
Get the FCC Restricted Radiotelephone. Cannot recall the fee, maybe $10...
Take the FAA ATP written test, a 2 day preparation will cost about $200.
xxx
Do your training for type rating. JAR or FAA are same standards.
Your oral will cover FAA regulations and aircraft type knowledge.
Maybe will take 2 hours before your simulator check.
Simulator check to FAA standards. Might take 90 minutes to 2 hours.
xxx
That is it. Good luck -
:ok:
Happy contrails

[LRdriver III]

As above is correct.
JAA written exam on systems prior to Checkride, FAA does that as an oral exam instead in briefing room prior to checkride.
JAA and FAA check is the same standards, IIRC you get a circling approach and some GPS stuff to do additionally on the FAA one ..but that may have changed now.

So.. : written exam, oral exam and one combined checkride!

[inner]

Hello,

Later this year, when i'm going to do my recurrent i'm also going to go for a faa licence.

I would like to know where and how i can obtain this validation of my radio certificate. What steps do i have to undertake?

And what about the oral exam? Does anybody know a good book that will cover this oral exam?

thx a lot

[BelArgUSA]

Hola inner -
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FCC Radiotelephone Certificate is just a mail application. No test required.
Application paper available in schools/FAA offices.
The FCC certificate is "green" for non-US citizen and only valid 5 years.
Requires a renewal. I cannot recall the processing fee, but is not much.
xxx
To study the written ATP material, all available on internet.
Google it for AIM "Airman Information Manual" (is in pdf) and FARs...
Regulations - study FAR 1, 25, 61, 91 and 121.
Meteorology - See difference with USA TAFs/METARs.
That is about all you need to study.
xxx
:8
Happy contrails

[theWings]

Good thread, Welle!

Is there any chronology to these requirements?

And must they all be completed within a certain time period?

Finally, is there any requirement to attend an FAA District Office, either stateside or not?

Thanks all for the info.

theWings

[BelArgUSA]

Chronology
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Only requirement, ATP Written Test passed within the 24 preceeding calendar months of the oral and sim check. Generally oral exam is done the day before, or the morning of the sim check. If a failure, (sometimes happens) the sim check is performed one or two days later, after some more training.
xxx
Class 1 Medical (for INITIAL ATP issue) must be within preceeding 6 calendar months.
If you need another type rating, you can do it with Class 2 or 3 Medical.
xxx
For the oral, which is not necessarily easy, if you do not know the answer to a question...
(1) Say... "could you re-phrase your question...?"
(2) Or say... "I cannot recall that one, but I would check in the manual..."
(3) Or even... "Give me a few minutes to recall that one"..
Maybe the FAA examiner will forget that you... did not answer that one...
The more the FAA examiner talks, the less you have to answer questions.
xxx
FAA policy for simulators is - as follows -
As long as the FAA examiner does not stop the sim check, you are doing ok. So if you make a mistake, continue, or say "let me do this again"... If you mess-up an ILS approach, show good airmanship and decide to miss your approach, and do it again.
xxx
If the FAA examiner stops your sim check, you did fail... however all other maneuvers you completed earlier are "passed" and probably will not be repeated when you do your re-check. So, a re-check might only take you 30 minutes, say to do a single-engine ILS or, say ADF approach circle-to-land...
xxx
Remember that you have a co-pilot, and he can also fly the simulator...
And when you fly the simulator, use the autopilot... until "failed"...
Hope the above helps you to understand how it goes.
:ok:
Happy contrails

[Paradise Lost]

Welle, when you do your sim check there is a requirement to do the FAA bit at US airports and the JAA now require you to do their check at European airports.......so usually you do about 90 mins for the FAA ride and then another 45 mins or so to validate your JAA licence.
Cannot remember where to find the FAA ATP questions but someone on here (or Google!) will tell you. You then self study the entire question bank (approx. 1100 Qs, because you can disregard about 300 Part 125 Qs) and can then sit the exam at your nearest FSDO.

[Falconman]

I think you'll find you require two checkrides - one FAA and one JAR. The last time I added a type to both licences (March 2007) I did the FAA ride as a preparation for the JAA ride - the day before. FSI is very good with this - but it may not be the same examiner. Just let then know what you want in advance and they will make it happen.

As I recall the FCC fee was $50.00 - you can do it all online.

Good luck!

[Welle]

Thank you mates..

...for all the quick answers and hints, I really appreciate this.

rgds
welle

[muntisk]

Less than month ago I did may check ride for JAA, and airport was Dubai.....:=

[inner]

Anybody know a good book that covers this subject:
Regulations - study FAR 1, 25, 61, 91 and 121.
Meteorology - See difference with USA TAFs/METARs.

Want to prepare myself but don't kow where to start.

tx

[ITFC1]

Have you applied for TSA clearance, you WILL have to have this approved before they will do a check ride, if you have previously done the finger prints it wont take as long.

[Phil77]

...and don't forget that you need a visa (B-1 for example) to undergo training in the US. Entry under the Visa Waiver Program is intended for visitors (tourism) only, not for training!
Some people on this forum are still under the impression, that just because they got in and out (and got away with it), it is legal - it's not:

Extensive coverage here: http://www.pprune.org/biz-jets-ag-flying-ga-etc/355225-visa-needed.html?highlight=visa

[G-SPOTs Lost]

I'm almost certain that you dont need the Radio License portion as you are converting an ICAO ATPL and there are exchange agreements between the FAA and other ICAO countries.

You do need the FAA Written, checkride.com or google dauntless software, its agreat program as its NOT web based so you can play with it where no internet access is available.

I've said it before, please dont learn your answers parrot fashion. Yes you can learn them in 48 hours (36 is the record) but just give the ticket a bit of respect and take two weeks over it. Thats what I did and it paid off as before you do your ATP checkride you will be given an oral exam and your check airman can ask you anything he/she likes on any aspect of FARAIM he chooses this is more likely the case especially if the chk airman is an A$$hole. I was having to explain differences filed with ICAO on US runway markings and I'm glad I took my time over it, my check airman wasn't a knob he just wanted to know that I had the basic knowledge to get around in the USA and was interested in making sure I was aware of the differences in the USA

[Welle]

thanks again:

visa: I already hold a Crew Visa C1/D
TSA: approval in progress, all docs sent

radio ops licence: as far as I was told, licence is required to operate N registered aircrafts outside the US

FARAIM: already studying the book
oral exam: thx for the good hints!

rgds
welle

[Cowboy-76]

I think you will find that because you will be gaining a new Licence (FAA) you will need a Stsudent Visa to be issued as your C1/D1 Visa or a B1/B2 visa will not be sufficent.

If you are just doing a type rating in a sim only then you only need TSA (finger prints etc) for a new Licence Flight Safety informe me that I would need the student Visa also.

Check with your training provider everything else sound in order.

Good luck

[ITFC1]

https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/esta/esta.html?_flowExecutionKey=_c54F6B848-631A-6262-4BC6-EC5CD0D247DF_k566304F5-FCEB-C143-0E78-42883281BCD6

And dont forget that too, you deffinately wont get in without it.

Not much to think about is there!!!!!!!!!!!

[nautilusboats]

How about when you want to convert a JAA to FAA with 9000 hours on type ?
Does it still apply ?

[inner]

Anybody knows a book that covers this subject: FAR 1, 25, 61, 91 and 121.???????


Thx

[PicMas]

Yes, its called a FAR/AIM (Federal Aviation Regulations/ Aeronautical Information Manual)

You will probably also see 14 CFR which is the Code of Federal Regulations that contain transportation.

An example:

FAR/AIM Combined (ASA) - Sporty's Pilot Shop (http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?DID=19&Product_ID=9484)

[inner]

Thx, but it does not cover part 121.

[123567]

You must get your JAA license validated by the FAA first - this is different from the TSA training appoval and can take 45 - 60 days.

FSI forgot to check this for a friend of mine... he turned up for the checkride and guess what!!!!

Click the link to the FAA website

Answer (http://faa.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/faa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=93&p_created=1071244164&p_sid=uPO*IWsj&p_accessibility=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0 mcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZwX2N2PSZwX3BhZ2U9MQ**&p_li=&p_topview=1)

This explains it all.

[inner]

Thx a lot man!!! U prevented me to have a nice surprise.:ok:

[PicMas]

Why do you want part 121??

If its just a matter of getting an FAA ATP, sit a part 135 exam.... much easier

[inner]

You're right. I'm not going to do the 121 part.

Just the written test based on the far/aim book.

[muntisk]

Does this type will go to your FAA license when you do your ATP, or just FAA ATP?
If not then how to put type on it without doing initial again?
Thanks

[sonicpana]

Hi, I wondered if you may help me?
I am the holder of a UK issued JAA CPL ME IR & class 1 medical, (land Fixed wing) & would like to convert to a standalone FAA CPL ME IR. I already have a faa certificate (private SE & ME) based on my UK licence. Still finding it difficult to find out what I have to do to convert.
Thanks for your help in advance:ok:

[PicMas]

You need to do four things.

1) Take the IFP "Instrument - foreign pilot" written test.

2) Take the Commercial pilot written test

3) Take a ME Commercial checkride, based on previous experience. This basically means that with your JAR certificate, you meet all formal requirements and will need only training to proficiency.
You will need (minimum) "3hrs within 60 days" for an instructor to sign you off for the practical test.

4) Take an FAA 1st or 2nd class medical (ok, this you probably should be number 1)

[sonicpana]

Thanks PicMas, very helpful, will find someone to do the checkride with in UK? Anyone recommend without the hassel of travel to States /visa etc?
Cheers Sonic:ok:

[PicMas]

I think you may need TSA approval even for training outside the US.

You could give this guy a call:

FAA AND JAR FLIGHT TRAINING WITH TONY GUNN (http://flywatchtraining.com/)

I did a checkout with him a few years ago, nice and uncomplicated, he will know the answers.

[Kent BeTrue]

Not knowing how many hours you have, but if 1500, why not simply do the FAA ATPL checkride next time you take any type training.

[inner]

To do the atp written exam, do you need an endorsement of an FAA instructor ??? I only have a jaa licence and want to obtain an FAA licence.

Thx

[PicMas]

You do not need an endorsement for the ATP written or practical test.

[inner]

Strange!! I know someone who went for a FAA ppl and he needed to have that before doing his written exam. Ok it was for the ppl but i find this strange. If so, why this difference???

[dboy]

Hello

Someone did recently the oral exam for the FAA licence?

What did he/she ask?

I'm trying to prepare myself but i don't see the trees anymore in the wood. I have the far/aim book (it is a lot) and try to figure out what's important :ugh:.


grtz

[Welle]

hello aviators,


its now two months since I started this thread; I had my checkrided last week and I also received my FAA ATP.

thx 4 your help

welle.on.tour

[youngskywalker]

Dboy

Get a hold of a copy of the 'oral exam guide', some pretty good hints in there as to what the examiner may ask.

In short, know the aircraft and its sytems inside out, expect to have to describe various systems (electric/hyd) and maybe even draw them. Know the regulations, or at least the most important ones, if you can't remember during the oral exam you should be able to say, "I'm sorry i can't remember that but I know where to find it in the FARAIM", however if you need to use it for all the questions then expect to fail. If you have any weak area's on your written paper then again expect those area's to be questioned at some length.

Expect it to last anything from 30 minutes upwards to the whole day. A nightmare of which I have no desire to have to repeat! But if you prepare well and keep your cool then it should be relativley painless.

[dboy]

Welle

What did they ask you for your oral exam?

Perhaps you have some good tips?

tx

[youngskywalker]

Erm yeah, read the above and read the manual!

[PicMas]

He asks if the aircraft has Lycoming or Continental engine. Then you do a short break, he then asks how much antifreeze the engine holds, then you take a lunch break.
After lunch he asks you to plan a trip from Moscow to Dar-Es-Salaam, VOR to VOR, he may throw in some last minute changes where two extra passengers show up with 215lbs extra luggage, the trick here is to put the 115lbs piece in the nose locker and the other two in the wing lockers. This way the CG will be 154 inches aft of datum.

Good luck!