a 1966 Cine film featuring a Javelin & Vulcan

[stevew62]

Hi Guys,

I managed to get an old Cine film, that my Dad was involved in the making of, digitalized.

Filmed in 1966 at RAAF Butterworth ( Malaysia ) It features A Gloster Javelin ( XH722 ) being sent out to check an unidentified plane ( which turns out to be a Vulcan ).

If anyone out there knows who the navigator / crew are, I will gladly change the comments in Youtube.

I have the original film & sound track & will see if I can get a better quality digital version.

Anyway here's the link. Enjoy the film

YouTube - Mission 66 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=uL0ILSGR8MI)

[Jamie-Southend]

Steve,

Should PPRuNe not have the answer for you may wish to try the guys in the Historic section over on Key Publishing Ltd Aviation Forums - Powered by vBulletin (http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/index.php)

They are a knowledgable lot and will go out their way for you.

Good luck.

Jamie

[NickB]

Great clip - many thanks!

My father-in-law was a back seater on Javelins for a short time - he'll love to see it I'm sure. Will let you know if can provide any details on the aircrew in the film - I guess if alive, they'd be in their late 60's now if not older?

Nickb

[BOAC]

What a fantastic find! Loved the 'artistic ipression' aspect of scrambling for a low-level sight-seeing trip before - oops! Better go up and visident the bogey.:)

Good to see the squadron tech 'library' being used properly too...... Thanks 'steve'

[dakkg651]

Excellent film thanks.

I'm sure that 60 Sqn would love a copy of that!

[NutherA2]

If anyone out there knows who the navigator / crew are,

In 1966 I was on 60 Sqn at Tengah and so didn't know all the C Flight (Butterworth) crews, but I knew the pilot,Dave Waddington, quite well. I think the navigator might well have been Paul Woodward.

Thanks for posting the clip, Steve, ain't nostalgia wonderful!

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2 shots here of 60Sqn Javelins.

http://www.davidtaylorsound.co.uk/share/Aircraft%20pics/Javelin%20XH717%20about%20to%20touchdown-Changi%20Sept%2062-S083.jpg

XH717 about to touchdown on runway 20 at Changi 1962.

http://www.davidtaylorsound.co.uk/share/Aircraft%20pics/Javelin%20XH724%2060%20Sqn-Changi%201963-SS011A.jpg

XH724 on the Western dispersal at Changi in 1963.

David T.

[WASALOADIE]

Having just spoken to the Sqn history rep, Sixty would love a copy if at all possible. Please PM me for further details. Maybe if we can put some sort of date on it we may be able to find out who was crewing from the archives.

[stevew62]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies. I'm amazed at the interest in the film.

I've been in touch with my mum. She's checked my Dad's log books & we have some more Info.


I quote my Mum

"The navigator for Mission 66 was a guy called Paul Woodward. The log book shows that the filming for Mission 66 took place on 2 Feb, 3 Feb and 7 Feb 1966 and the bomber part was filmed on the 7th. ....A chap called Bert Foley was the other cine film taker and I think he flew in a 2nd Javelin to help with the filming. Bert was also a navigator."


The sound is terrible. I'll try to get it improved, but Mum also makes a few comments about the sound track ....


"Bert Foley ~ is the voice of Airfield Control, I bet you hadn't realised that I [Mary Waddington] am the voice of Ground Control. The bell at the start is the large Camel Bell ! and the aircraft sound was my hairdryer and the whole thing ~ splicing, sound etc done in our lounge after you and Simon had gone to bed!!!!"

I was 3 at the time & my brother 1.

I will gladly make copies abvailable for the Sqn History rep. ( Joe Warne, I assume ? ) I'll send a PM in a couple of Mins.

All the best
Steve

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<<The sound is terrible. I'll try to get it improved, but Mum also makes a few comments about the sound track ....
"Bert Foley ~ is the voice of Airfield Control, I bet you hadn't realised that I [Mary Waddington] am the voice of Ground Control. The bell at the start is the large Camel Bell ! and the aircraft sound was my hairdryer and the whole thing ~ splicing, sound etc done in our lounge after you and Simon had gone to bed!!!!">>

I'm a TV post production sound mixer so obviously find it fascinating!
Funny that he should be 'Bert Foley' as the originator of the 'art' of adding sounds to silent movies was an American 'Jack Foley'. Thus there is a breed of person working in the film industry called 'Foley Artists'. There job is to recreate all the sounds that were either unusable or were covered with dialogue, usually to enable foreign language versions to made. Also of course to heighten the action etc in a movie...just like your mother was doing!
David Taylor

[donthaveone]

This is great!
Having seen this clip, I vaguely remember the film contest as I am friends with the Foley family.
My Father was a pilot on 52 Sqdn at the time; Myself, Micheal & Peter Foley used to go to boarding school together in Singapore and when we returned to UK, both families ended up living in Norwich.
Bert Foley is 80 now and still plays golf twice a week. I'll let him know about this since I don't expect he reads pprune much!

[stevew62]

Hi Guys,

About a week ago I posted a link to some Javelin footage that I added to Youtube. Here's a link to the original post


http://www.pprune.org/aviation-history-nostalgia/359772-1966-cine-film-featuring-javelin-vulcan.html

I found some more footage & Jahn Parsons also sent me a digital version of a film he made in 1964.

Here are the links :-

Out takes from the Mission 66 film above => YouTube - Mission66 Outcuts - Gloster Javelin footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83nEoeUVDII&)&


John Parsons 1964 film about the 60 Sqn Javelins based in RAAF Butterworth => YouTube - Borneo Escort - featuring Gloster Javelin 60 Sqn footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMvXaAEt0I4&)&

I put a music track on the Mission 66 Out takes. It was chosen because I like it & it's the same length as the footage. I realize that it won't be to everyones taste, so if it annoys you, turn the loudspeakers down.

John's film has an informative commentary made by himself.


Enjoy !

Steve

[Fitter2]

Thanks, Steve

Happy (mostly) memories.

The Borneo Escort shots at Kuching must have been very late 64 or 65; since the QRA pan was concrete. For most of 64 it was PSP, and we had to stop the aircraft on the runway and back onto the pan with the David Brown to avoid shredding the tyres. I remember painting the 'Borneo Jet Force' squadron notice. I had a few boxes of slides of the Javs from Hastings and Beverley taken when going on airdrops for jollies, but thay have got lost in too many house moves.

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Steve- thanks for uploading those. Very enjoyable.

Here's a couple of 60 Sqn 'en masse'- doing an '8 ship' at Changi's B of B show Sept 1963.http://www.davidtaylorsound.co.uk/share/Aircraft%20pics/60Sqn%208%20ship%20-BofB%20Sept63-S723A.jpg

http://www.davidtaylorsound.co.uk/share/Aircraft%20pics/60Sqn%208%20ship-BoB%20Sept63-S722A.jpg

David Taylor.

[herbie123]

Hi,
I actually made the film and, of-course, was the Navigator. I was not the regular Nav for your father, Pete, but I enlisted his help to make the film. We had great fun making it and as you know it went on to win a Five Best award in the Asian Film Competition. I wrote the "script" and we met in my married quarter to put the soundtrack on to tape. The tape was then synchronised to the film using an Eumig 8mm projector. A couple of years ago my son, also a Peter, put the film on to a video so we can play it through the TV.

Best wishes to you.

[Sultan Ismail]

Sightseeing Intercept

A very interesting film for one who also was seriously into 8mm in the '60's, Eumig camera and the Eumig projector, even had a Bolex 18/5 at one time.

But back to the story, the low level shots of the Javelin passing a coastal town looked very familiar. Well much has changed there, it is in fact Georgetown on the Island of Penang in the Malacca Straits, and of course only a stones throw from Butterworth.

The sheds of Weld Quay and Fort Cornwallis are very clearly seen exactly as they are today, but the rest of Georgetown has come a long way from 1966.

A very good home movie, no doubt due to the really authentic props. Back in Blighty we made such films with Keilkraft balsa models and Jetex.