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fireflybob
26th Jan 2009, 21:12
I just don't believe it!

Sex drive link to prostate cancer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7850666.stm)

alfaman
26th Jan 2009, 21:44
"I just don't believe it!"

In the Victor Meldrew sense? Or don't trust the maths? Or doesn't fit with your experience?

I'm not sure I do either - but it got my Grandad, so have a bit of a vested interest...! But if they're trying to say he was a bit of a w****r, let 'em say it to me face...:mad: :ok:

bnt
26th Jan 2009, 21:54
Repeat after me:

Correlation is not Causation.
Correlation is not Causation.
Correlation is not Causation
...:rolleyes:

Reluctant737
26th Jan 2009, 22:06
Huh, I thought more orgasms lowered the risk of prostate cancer... now I'm real confused :ugh:

gingernut
26th Jan 2009, 22:18
Apart from demonstrating that there are at least 400 well practiced masturbators in Nottingham, the study proves little else.

On a scale of 1-5 for robustness, this work rates 4.

matspart3
26th Jan 2009, 22:44
Oh my God...I'm doomed! (unless the blindness gets me first):}

Desert Dingo
26th Jan 2009, 22:46
Probably it was the same mob who did some research and discovered that

"As ice cream sales increase, the rate of drowning deaths increases sharply."

and concluded that

"Therefore, ice cream causes drowning."

BeechNut
27th Jan 2009, 01:08
And I once read a study that showed exactly the opposite. Habitual and frequent wankers in their 20s had a lower rate of prostate cancer later in life. Theory being that clean pipes are healthy pipes and clogged pipes cause... trouble.

Beech

Buster Hyman
27th Jan 2009, 01:27
So, changing hands after 99 won't help?:uhoh:

ehwatezedoing
27th Jan 2009, 03:14
I guess one brilliant scientific will just have to do a "prostate cancer" survey.

And compare its results between France and UK.

:E

Loose rivets
27th Jan 2009, 04:17
Oooooooooooooooh BUGGER!


I suppose I can give up Sundays if it'll help:(





Mind you, with a name like Polyxeni Dimitropoulou, I think he/she/it might have been doing a survey of prostate problems in parrots.

Rwy in Sight
27th Jan 2009, 04:29
Loose rivets,

Polixeni is a female name although fairly old fashionned. Not sure if I want an old lady to be involved with such a study.

matspart3 great comment!

Rwy in Sight

Loose rivets
27th Jan 2009, 06:59
There, fixed it. But, but....."He said that it was...."

I'll keep me options open and say he/she


Funny thing for a lady to study. Mind you, I see that the definitive tome by Dr Peter Scardino M.D. is co-authored by Judith Kelman. He is the Chairman of the Department of Urology at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center.


My son presented me with this from his home library of jolly bedtime reading a while back. :\

Rwy in Sight
27th Jan 2009, 07:22
Loose,

Don't forget how many gyneco are male. I don't have access to the article from this computer but I will read it. I think we have to weather it (like so many other medical news) until a new study financed (maybe by the porn industry?) says that wanking is a good thing.

Rwy in Sight

PS.As I was typing this boss walks in the office, ask for an upated and it takes me ages to return to the office issues.

arcniz
27th Jan 2009, 10:35
There seem to be two basic flavours for prostate cancer. The one form is hormone responsive, the other is not.

Possibly the hormone responsive cancer - which fits the facts of the referenced article, is developed in the context of the same protein over-expression that causes lots of surging hormones -- a little slip of the genetic program that promulgates ones genes ever so much more efficiently, albeit at the cost of longevity.

On the other hand, har har, the second variant of prostate cancer might well come from components of sperm, or the critters themselves, migrating upstream out of sheer boredom when nothing else is happening, and munching on or otherwise altering the biome of prostate bits in such a way as to start the growth recursion that is cancer. Obvious preventative there is to keep them moving along down the pipes and thus otherwise occupied.

Beatriz Fontana
27th Jan 2009, 12:27
Panic ye not, gentlemen. According to today's Independent, masturbation can be good for the over 50s as it apparently removes toxins and helps reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

(apologies, I'm mobile and can't get the link insert to work)

Captain Speedbird
27th Jan 2009, 12:40
It certainly isn't good for your health if your wife catches you at it. Can you get a prescription?

Scumbag O'Riley
27th Jan 2009, 12:53
Masturbation is sex with someone you love.

Boom Boom!

Old ones are the best.

Utrinque Apparatus
27th Jan 2009, 12:59
In my case, on the other hand, it's good for arthritis ! :}

chopper2004
27th Jan 2009, 13:23
What a c*** up? And a balls up!!:ok:

Beatriz Fontana
27th Jan 2009, 13:28
"On the other hand". Brilliant! :ok:

Storminnorm
27th Jan 2009, 13:47
Cum, cum now Beatriz!

mr fish
27th Jan 2009, 15:31
do blowjobs count as masturbation???
mind you, after 20+ years of marrage i should be so f:mad:g lucky:(
these days, i know only one DIRTY BITCH, my terrier after a walk in the fields!!!!!!!!

OFSO
27th Jan 2009, 16:16
One of my retired colleagues, aware that a healthy sex life was conducive to a low level of prostate cancer (and also a more enjoyable way to spend his remaining years) seduced both his neighbour's wife and her daughter.

Unfortunately we shall never know the state of his prostate in old age as he never reached it, having been beaten to death by the neighbour when he found out.

I'm sure my fellow Ppruners can come up with a morale to this tale.

Beatriz Fontana
27th Jan 2009, 17:08
Keep your friends close and your neighbours closer....?

ShyTorque
27th Jan 2009, 19:23
mr fish do blowjobs count as masturbation???
mind you, after 20+ years of marrage i should be so fg lucky
these days, i know only one DIRTY BITCH, my terrier after a walk in the fields!!!!!!!!


Strewth, mate - that's sailing a bit close to the wind - my dogs only ever get a doggy chew after their walk :eek:

Loose rivets
27th Jan 2009, 20:03
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OFSO
29th Jan 2009, 08:57
An interesting post elsewhere on the net. Less than 5% of malignant prostate cancers detected by scans etc actually lead directly to death. There are a large number of men being "treated" for prostate cancer where the treatment really isn't necessary, and also the effect of being told one has cancer can be seriously damaging to one's general health.

And the PSA test is notoriously unreliable (as my own MD said when it goes up, might mean something, might not.)

This is a case of "keep using you prostate, then you don't have problems", and "if you pee the same quantity and frequency you always have, don't worry."

And for those down under, heed Dame Edna's advice.