Finding a valid routing

[sander82]

Going more to Europe these days and had some trouble filing flightplans and finding the correct route/waypoints to file. Got a tip from a guy in Le Bourget, he was able to check on the Eurocontrol (or related) website which routes were filed before by other crew and had be accepted.

I am aware of the US version FltPlan.com Flight Planning & Flight Tracking for General Aviation. (http://www.fltplan.com) which gives you routes that are already filed and usually will get accepted and can be expected.

So far I have found a route validator on the website of Eurocontrol, anyone aware of another way of finding routes that will get accepted?

[BladePilot]

Fond memories of my days as an Ace flight planner. Traffic Orientation Scheme, otherwise known as TOS )or T** Off!) and Flight Information Bulletins, otherwise known as FIBS (FIB - a white lie!) and boy the fun we had tasking the newbies to find the 'waypoint' (sorry kids only kidding) TOD on the route charts:)

[LH2]

anyone aware of another way of finding routes that will get accepted?

This might or might not be of help to you, but there are at least the following two applications which will automatically work out an IFPS-compliant routing for you. Not sure if either of them covers as far as Kazakhstan.

AutoPlan (http://www.autoplan.aero/)

FlightplanPro (http://www.flightplanpro.eu/Home.html)

[plans123]

I've always found a knowledge of European airspace structure, a map, pen, paper (with a the smallest bit of trial, error and the CFMU validator) does the trick. But I suppose that doesn't help much does it? :ok:

Or you could try Jepps.......

[silly walks]

If you want you can submit a plan to the IFPUV validator.
Not only will it tell you if the plan is correct, but will also give you an error response.

Flight Plan Assistant - Free Text Editor (http://www.cfmu.eurocontrol.int/j_cia_public/cia_public/pages/ifpuv-free.jsf)

[ASCOT Ops Retd]

...or just below the free text editor on the menu is a structured editor. The trick then is to note the error, go to the latest Route Availability Document (RAD) and look up the FIR for the reason you got an error. That said, a bloke in Paris told me that the computer does generate errors that the manual editor people simply accept because they know they're wrong - LSGS arrivals for example. It's a bit of a pain in the ass, but quite satisfying when you eventually get a NO ERRORS.