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Buster Hyman
14th Jan 2009, 22:21
Cdr Tom Phillips suggests female sailors wear bikinis

Holly Byrnes
January 15, 2009 12:00am

A NEWLY appointed Australian navy submarine commander is in hot water for suggesting female sailors wearing bikinis might help to boost recruitment.
Cdr Tom Phillips, appointed to command Collins class submarine HMAS Farncomb last year, also revealed that the submarine equivalent of the "mile-high club" is the "going down club".
In an interview with Ralph magazine, he said the naval uniform worked to "either pull a chick or get in a fight".
He was asked, "If female sailors all had to be hot and wear bikinis, would that help recruitment?"
He is quoted as responding: "It would certainly get the right demographic of young men in. I'm not sure how feasible it is."
The Federal Opposition and feminists have called for disciplinary action over the article.
And Defence Science and Personnel Minister Warren Snowdon (http://www.warrensnowdon.com/) said the comments were "utterly unacceptable".
He said they did not reflect "new generation navy" and has called for an urgent review of the criteria for media approvals to ensure interviews "match the values of the ADF".
Opposition defence science and personnel spokesman Bob Baldwin (http://www.bobbaldwin.com.au/) said the remarks were "totally inappropriate and absolutely offensive."
"From a commanding officer of the Royal Australian Navy (http://www.navy.gov.au/) one would expect a bit more maturity and a respectful attitude to his fellow men and women in the services."
Eva Cox, chairwoman of Women's Lobby Australia (http://www.wel.org.au/), said the article reflected "the navy's limited view of women as bodies rather than brains".
Ms Cox questioned the wisdom of the ADF agreeing to the story and recruiting through magazines such as Ralph.
But navy deputy chief Rear Admiral Davyd Thomas defended the submarine captain, saying the offending comments were a response to a "flippant question and the commanding officer's response was not intended to be serious".

Beatriz Fontana
14th Jan 2009, 22:23
Aww, Buster, post that in the mil aircrew thread.... Please...!! :ok::ok:

Buster Hyman
14th Jan 2009, 22:29
No...they scare me in there!:uhoh: You're welcome to cut n paste it though....

tony draper
14th Jan 2009, 23:12
Dammit!! nautical standards are slipping in my day if a woman inadvertently wandered on to the bridge of a ship she would have been flung to the sharks the crew would have immediately abandoned ship after sending a marconigram to the nearest warship ordering them to approach at the best possible speed and send the cursed vessel to the bottom.
The same applied to Priests or Vicars,one of the laws of the sea, Vicars Priests and Women,never on the bridge allow.:=
:rolleyes:
They will allow whistling on board next.:suspect:

airfoilmod
14th Jan 2009, 23:28
and bikini clad women. But I won't submarinate until I learn how to breathe water.

BOFH
14th Jan 2009, 23:36
I have seen many things in my time, but I NEVER want to see Eva Cox in a bikini.

Unless she is on the deck as the fish submerges, that is.

BOFH

lowerlobe
14th Jan 2009, 23:44
No...they scare me in there!
Buster.....I forgot you're scared of the dark but then again I would have thought you'd be acclimatised to the dark with some of the bars you frequent.....:eek:
Eva Cox, chairwoman of Women's Lobby Australia, said the article reflected "the navy's limited view of women as bodies rather than brains".
That's right,how ridiculous....why on earth should women be contemplating serving on a submarine when they should be at home with the kids,cooking and washing...

Anyway Eva...there is not a guy on this planet that when looking at a girl in a bikini is not wondering what her IQ is....:E

After reading most of the rubbish in the media why would you take any of it seriously let alone anything in Ralph magazine.

con-pilot
14th Jan 2009, 23:46
But I won't submarinate until I learn how to breathe water

Agreed, also;

What goes up must come down, but what goes down, does not necessarily have to come back up.

lowerlobe
14th Jan 2009, 23:49
submarinate
Isn't that a term women use when preparing food for dinner?

incoming.....

ShyTorque
14th Jan 2009, 23:53
Gentlemen....UP PERISCOPES!

CR2
14th Jan 2009, 23:55
Hmmm Buster, what about cross-dressing former Loadcontrollers? :}

22 Degree Halo
14th Jan 2009, 23:59
A NEWLY appointed Australian navy submarine commander is in hot water for suggesting female sailors wearing bikinis might help to boost recruitment.



Great idea!

Perhaps to appease the feminists (:mad: ) the commander and his male crew will wear thongs showing off their tackle.

That way, everyday happy-go-lucky females [unlike the dreaded feminists :yuk:] read about this, decide to recruit, and they inturn eventually show their bikini bits.:ok:

Win-win!

Buster Hyman
15th Jan 2009, 00:26
the commander and his male crew will wear thongs showing off their tackle.

A whole new meaning to "Up Periscope" there....(oops! No prizes for second!)

Lobee...Haven't seen you at the Blue Oyster Bar in recent weeks. The "girls" :confused: were asking after you...

Ratty...From what I've heard about the Navy, I'd fit right in. And don't be shy, show em yer pins & you'll go a long way too!

Howard Hughes
15th Jan 2009, 00:36
the commander and his male crew will wear thongs showing off their tackle.
It would appear they have them on BACKWARDS!:eek: Show them how it's meant to go Buster!:ok:

I have always had an interest in being a 'submariner'...;)

bnt
15th Jan 2009, 00:51
Oh, that would be marvellous: all that temptation, but no space or privacy to do anything about it. Big nuclear submarines have some space in them, but Australia doesn't have those, so it's the cramped, smelly, diesel-and-battery jobs down they're referring to. If a bikini-clad girl walked past your (hot) bunk, it would be some time before you'd be able to unlock yourself, and using Viagra would get you court-martialed for dereliction of duty. :ooh:

Buster Hyman
15th Jan 2009, 01:10
Show them how it's meant to go Buster!
Are you referring to the "pluck n tuck" method Howard? Hang on...I'll trim me nails!:}
I have always had an interest in being a 'submariner'...
We're talking about the Naval version mate...

Ogre
15th Jan 2009, 01:59
22DH

Quote the commander and his male crew will wear thongs showing off their tackle. unquote.

You would certainly show off your tackle if you wore nothing but thongs, here in Downunderland "thongs" are rubber sandals you wear on your feet, AKA flip flops.

AntiCrash
15th Jan 2009, 02:28
God Bless Oz.:D

birrddog
15th Jan 2009, 02:53
The response just goes to show what a big bunch of Sheila's the Ozzy's are becoming in this new PC world.

When I read that phrase I would have expected a 'good on ya' response.

Sorry for all those manly Bruce's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA) that take offense to my statement, but you let it happen. As lowerlobe said, they should never have been allowed out of the kitchen. ;)

Ogre, as scary as either scenario is, I think flip flops would present a considerably less scary image than g-strings (on the men)... Never been impressed by the "budgie smuggler" look me'self... that's just cruelty to animals...

Buster Hyman
15th Jan 2009, 03:32
Nah, it's not so bad.

It's just that all the girls here have become imancipat... emancipate.. umanci... think they're blokes.

lowerlobe
15th Jan 2009, 04:06
Spot on birrddog.....

why we ever gave them the right to drive let alone vote is a question I will forever ask.....:E:E:E

Buster...if you look at the origin of the word emancipation,you will see that it stems from a latin origin firstly,
e .....meaning to efflectum or destroy....
man.....Latin for us....you know men....the boys...etc..
cipatus.....meaning to block or constipate....

That is their plan with emancipation ....to destroy men by making us constipated...and it can all be fixed with a good laxative.

Buster Hyman
15th Jan 2009, 04:32
Oh, so quite the opposite of giving us the shits?:ooh: How bizarre.

lowerlobe
15th Jan 2009, 05:01
Oh, so quite the opposite of giving us the shits? How bizarre.
Buster...Buster...Buster...Do I have to explain everything to you...?

What do you take for Montezuma's revenge????

Then when you take it too much what happens?

Buster Hyman
15th Jan 2009, 05:12
Then when you take it too much what happens?
Howard comes around with his wine cork collection.

Howard Hughes
15th Jan 2009, 05:28
Here's one I got from Mardi Gras, it's Busters fave...:ok:

Atlas Shrugged
15th Jan 2009, 08:30
Gentlemen....UP PERISCOPES!

I was going to say something about Seamen................but I won't :E

Buster Hyman
15th Jan 2009, 10:08
Hmmm...you know, it feels a lot bigger.

dead_pan
15th Jan 2009, 14:19
I was going to say something about Seamen


..as in, what's long, hard and full of??

Gawd bless Australia - they've got exactly the right attitiude to this willy waving.

Beatriz Fontana
15th Jan 2009, 14:56
He's got one thing right - all the nice girls love a sailor.... :O

Surely he can go in to hiding under the water. Is Oz that same as the UK in preventing women from serving on board submarines? It's elf and safety to do with harming an unborn child. Either that or no desire whatsoever to spend months on end with a bunch of hairy, smelly blokes in a confined space... I'm sure some girls would find that immensly appealing, but that's my line drawn, thank you.

sisemen
15th Jan 2009, 15:30
Yer can't run far in a submarine.........gerrum off darl :E

Foss
15th Jan 2009, 15:53
I don't care if the women wore bikinis 'cause I'd have my eyes shut and screaming that I want out, that submarines aren't natural, I didn't realise is was this small, I made a mistake, we're all going to die a horrible drowny death, or burn then drown, or burn, asphyxiate a lot, then drown. Above Us the Waves wasn't a great recruiting film since they rode in submarines which were even smaller.

Bikinis on a beach, nowhere near a submersible of any kind or description, great.

tony draper
15th Jan 2009, 16:14
Be glad when those dammed wimin go so we can take a pee indoors again.:uhoh:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a194/Deaddogbay/U21-1.jpg

dead_pan
15th Jan 2009, 17:44
submarines aren't natural


And aeroplanes are? Effectively the same thing, only the medium is slightly denser.

Santa bought me a copy of Silent Hunter III for the PC, seeing as the tellybox is now out of bounds with that confounded Wii. Excellent game - really tests the old grey matter, also brings home some of the sheer terror of being a 'deep'. Not really a fun profession by any stretch of the imagination.

eticket
15th Jan 2009, 18:45
Dual crewing was tried in the 1950's and this was the result !

http://www.fototime.com/F688DAE8741127B/orig.jpg

I believe it all came under the title 'Operation Petticoat'.

Foss
15th Jan 2009, 20:23
Aye Dead Pan, pretty similar.
If I was on a sub pound to a penny I'd be the one told to close a watertight door, with me on the bad side 'to sacrifice yourself and save the crew'.


Good quote in a book I have about HMS Coventry in the Falklands war, 'Four Weeks in May', an officer who abandoned ship was on his own in a life when it looked like the Coventry was going to roll on top of him. He went on to specialise in submarines because he preferred to serve in vesels that were designed to sink.

Blacksheep
16th Jan 2009, 08:36
Effectively the same thing, only the medium is slightly denser.
Its easier to come down when you're up than it is to come up when you're down.

That there submersible vessel appears to be a German U-Boat tony. Despite the armistice, our family have this inbred irresistable urge to ram or break out the depth charges. (I suppose its homing torpedoes these days...)