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Orion Man
10th Jan 2009, 19:38
Some fairly unpleasant scenes were witnessed in London tonight after a demonstration to end the Gaza conflict, with police being attacked.

Gaza protest ends in violence - AOL News (http://news.aol.co.uk/gaza-protest-ends-in-violence/article/20090110125614176272453)

I'm a little surprised there's not any threads running on the situation or am I missing something ?

Regards

Orion Man

haughtney1
10th Jan 2009, 19:49
I think its because we are sooo used to the "rent a mob" mentality that these protests attract....
Typical IMHO of certain elements within the UK community of professional protesters

CUNIM
10th Jan 2009, 20:08
Surprised that the police didn't use a bit more force as they did with the Countryside Alliance people, there was blood everywhere then. Oh I forgot, the CA people were basically law abiding!!:ugh::ugh: They also didn't need to cover their faces:ugh::ugh:

BenThere
10th Jan 2009, 20:09
I'm a little surprised there's not any threads running on the situation or am I missing something ?


We're not allowed to talk about it anymore on JB.

AMF
10th Jan 2009, 20:29
The "protesters for peace" obviously went out looking for trouble with the intent to vandalize and aggressively confront. A few busted heads, rubber bullets, and tear-gassing is the appropriate response for face-hiding cowards such as these.

hellsbrink
10th Jan 2009, 21:05
Natch, the same thing happened here in Antwerp when they decided to have a protest here over Gaza.

pottwiddler
10th Jan 2009, 21:19
After watching the coverage on the BBC website, it seems to me that rent-a-mob had turned up later on, possibly egged on by errant journalists trying to make a story, but what I do not understand is the significance of Starbucks, they sell coffee don't they?

I also noticed that a few Socialist Workers flags flying nearby, could they have something against them. I not trying to insinuate anything but publicity is publicity isn't it just ask MOL!

Ten West
10th Jan 2009, 21:31
"London Protest Ends In Violence"

No, really?? There's a surprise. :rolleyes:

tony draper
10th Jan 2009, 22:19
Why the hell should we have to tolerate renta mobs howling through our streets protesting about events outside our borders?,such demonstrations should be banned and harshly put down by the forces of law and order.
You want to demonstrate about Council tax or your bins only being emptied once a fortnight or the price of gas,fair enough,that is our business, but for these yamming mobs send the Dragoons at them.
:suspect:

pottwiddler
10th Jan 2009, 22:56
Tony D reads the Daily Mail/Express! :)

How's the price of your house Tony? :eek:

tony draper
10th Jan 2009, 23:01
I dunno I finished paying for it twenty years ago.:E
It is my home, a roof over me noggin,I don't actually care a hoot what it's worth now regarding your house as a commodity is why we are so deeply in the sh1t now.
:E

pottwiddler
10th Jan 2009, 23:21
Too true, but my house is being paid for by someone else:E.:E

Anyway we digress.

Does anyone know why the protesters smashed up the Starbuck's or is it just another global success story that the deep-thinking anarchic thugs hate, but were in there buying their double latte just the other week to wash down the McDonalds they ate earlier?

LH2
10th Jan 2009, 23:45
You want to demonstrate about Council tax or your bins only being emptied once a fortnight or the price of gas,fair enough,that is our business,

I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Draper (which I find a bit worrying :uhoh:).

In the protestors' defence, though, in our younger days I remember we had a very good reason to do it: demonstrations were one of the best places to meet some of the finest (and IIRC, more receptive) examples of the fair sex. The end justifies the means and all that.

birrddog
11th Jan 2009, 00:07
Does anyone know why the protesters smashed up the Starbuck's

My speculation is that they believe Starbucks is a corporate supporter of Israel.

A Palestinian friend of mine informed me once upon a twice that was the reason he did not buy or drink Starbucks coffee.

lomapaseo
11th Jan 2009, 00:31
I'm a little surprised there's not any threads running on the situation or am I missing something ?

Regards

Orion Man

probably because any threads with the word Gaza in it have a very short life span

Low Flier
11th Jan 2009, 07:38
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/01/04/Riddell620.jpg

AMF
11th Jan 2009, 08:05
Seriously, if you fired a tear gas canister at close range against the head of some of these protesters, it could only raise their IQs to the point they might actually put down their ridiculous signs and do something useful like go find jobs.

viktor inox
11th Jan 2009, 08:45
Don't they use water cannons in London? Would be the right sort of response given the season.:D

BTW: would have been interesting to carry out immigration checks on this mob - hardly anyone there looked British

helimutt
11th Jan 2009, 08:51
viktor, you can't just open up water cannons on people. It's against their yoomin rights innit!!!

Surprised the overnment didn't allow the police to use the anti-terror laws though. They use them for everything else, ie against trainspotters etc.

sitigeltfel
11th Jan 2009, 11:18
BTW: would have been interesting to carry out immigration checks on this mob - hardly anyone there looked British.

Very, very few people in London do :hmm:

viktor inox
11th Jan 2009, 12:35
Very, very few people in London do

Strange place, the UK. It's fine to call an Austrailan an Ozzie or Aussie, or a New Zealander a Kiwi - but apparently it causes an uproar if you call a Pakistani a Paki. :mad:

Contacttower
11th Jan 2009, 13:11
but apparently it causes an uproar if you call a Pakistani a Paki. http://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/censored.gif

Something to do with the history of the word perhaps; in the past it's often been used in a derogatory way leaving the word with racist connotations.

BTW: would have been interesting to carry out immigration checks on this mob - hardly anyone there looked British

What exactly does a British person look like?

viktor inox
11th Jan 2009, 13:16
What exactly does a British person look like?

Like the average indigenous person born in England, Scotland or Wales.

crisso
11th Jan 2009, 13:23
Something to do with the history of the word perhaps; in the past it's often been used in a derogatory way leaving the word with racist connotations.

Yes, but we can guess the political leaning/background of the people who decided it was a derogatory term, as opposed to Aussie, etc. They have probably even made a career out of it in the public sector!

Back on topic, with the substantial number of pro-Palestinian supporters present at both the London and Manchester demos, regrettably this is another disadvantage of multiculturalism and enrichment, that appears to have been overlooked by the 'experts', when encouraging mass immigration to these shores.

capewrath
11th Jan 2009, 13:26
Strange place, the UK. It's fine to call an Austrailan an Ozzie or Aussie, or a New Zealander a Kiwi - but apparently it causes an uproar if you call a Pakistani a Paki.
It's a load of PC bollocks. It's only an abbreviation. Never met anyone who saw it as anything else.
I'm a Jock and see nothing remotely offensive about that name either.
In parts of Glasgow Paki has long been used as an abbreviation of the forename Patrick.

StaceyF
11th Jan 2009, 13:33
BTW: would have been interesting to carry out immigration checks on this mob - hardly anyone there looked British.


Ah but you can walk for hours at a time in Easton, Stapleton and St Pauls here in Bristol and not see a single white face; but most of the people you will see were born over here.

Contacttower
11th Jan 2009, 14:17
Like the average indigenous person born in England, Scotland or Wales.

The concept of being British is not attached to any race or colour...it's simply about being a British citizen or subject. Just because someone happens to be black or of Asian descent it doesn't make them any less British.

phnuff
11th Jan 2009, 15:10
One of the best things about living in this country is that we have a right to publicly express our views and to protest (peacefully). Thousands of British soldiers have died over the years to protect that right and yet we see posts suggesting that we should send the Dragoons at protesters which to me seems like flicking the bird at those thousands who have died to give us our admittedly Blair eroded freedoms ..

StaceyF
11th Jan 2009, 15:17
One of the best things about living in this country is that we have a right to publicly express our views and to protest (peacefully)

You've not been keeping up with events of the past couple of years in the UK, have you?

You could google Maya Evans. Or Walter Wolfgang. Or Samina Malik.

That's three off the top of my head.

Now do try and keep up at the back.

AMF
11th Jan 2009, 17:30
phnuff...One of the best things about living in this country is that we have a right to publicly express our views and to protest (peacefully). Thousands of British soldiers have died over the years to protect that right and yet we see posts suggesting that we should send the Dragoons at protesters which to me seems like flicking the bird at those thousands who have died to give us our admittedly Blair eroded freedoms ..

I think you'll find that the Dragoon-supporters...like me...are referring to protesters who forgot the "peacable" part of the "Right to peaceably assemble". You know, the unpeaceable ones.

I thought that was pretty clear.

tonker
11th Jan 2009, 21:08
Egyptian minister when asked about Gaza...



"If you can't kill the Wolf, but the Wolf can kill you.....don't pull it's tail!"

Standard Noise
11th Jan 2009, 23:11
you can't just open up water cannons on people

Nope, tends to leave them alive enough to sue you. Plastic baton rounds are much more effective................if aimed right.:E

Blacksheep
12th Jan 2009, 10:03
- hardly anyone there looked BritishThey all looked very British to me, I mean, they were walking the streets voicing an opinion and were controlled by unarmed policemen.

A lot of the people who live in our neighbourhood look very British as defined by the BNP but they're not. You can tell they're not because they hold down at least two jobs and go to church on Sundays.

IMNSHO, qualifying for citizenship isn't a matter of being born. rights are acquired by effort. Citizenship "rights" ought to be an acquired reward, dependent upon service rather than mere existence. As JFK put it "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country".

Apart from anything else, the protestors not only did nothing to advance their cause; by displaying unprovoked bad temper and violence, they tend to prove the opposing view is the moderate and reasonable one.

badabing
13th Jan 2009, 10:32
Some were calling for a boycott of Israeli goods and services. Perhaps they should watch this video first:

YouTube - Before you boycott Israel! (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c)

The hypocrisy stinks! Oh, and hilarious too.

pineridge
13th Jan 2009, 18:33
The Riot Act:



"Our Sovereign Lord the King chargeth and commandeth all persons, being assembled, immediately to disperse themselves, and peaceably to depart to their habitations, or to their lawful business, upon the pains contained in the act made in the first year of King George, for preventing tumults and riotous assemblies. God Save the King!"

This act of parliament was to be read to an unlawful assembly by a civic official such as a mayor or Justice of the Peace (high ranking officers in the Metroplitan Police were holders of the office of JP). The assembly was required to disperse within a short time or be guilty of a felony punishable by death. The authorities were absolved of any guilt resulting from death or injury to the rioters during their removal after the act was read out.
The act was repealed about thirty years ago.
The primary duties of the police force were to protect life and property, and to maintain the peace. Over the years the effectiveness of police forces has been watered down by successive ineffective Home Secretaries and their lacklustre appointees in the position of Commissioner of the Metropolis. The streets of London are no longer policed; the law abiding population no longer has the protection it should have in a civilised society.
What has happened to us?

ArthurSmith
13th Jan 2009, 21:15
Some were calling for a boycott of Israeli goods and services. Perhaps they should watch this video first:

YouTube - Before you boycott Israel! (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=saeky9I5T9c)

The hypocrisy stinks! Oh, and hilarious too.

I cant believe that was meant to be serious. If so it is so exaggerated that it failed miserably. But yes hilarious.