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Beatriz Fontana
8th Jan 2009, 12:54
Oh, come on, now, is this the best (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Expert-Theories-Reject-UFO-Sighting-After-Wind-Turbine-Blade-Damaged-In-Conisholme-Lincolnshire/Article/200901215199411?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15199411_Expert_Theories_Reject_UFO_Sighting_Aft er_Wind_Turbine_Blade_Damaged_In_Conisholme%2C_Lincolnshire) that the media can come up with?

McDoo
8th Jan 2009, 13:01
Looks to me like one blade separated and damaged the other on it's way south. Don't have to work for AAIB to figure that out.

Can't beat a good UFO story when there's no important news going on (wars in Gaza,Afghanistan,Iraq/global economic crisis/new POTUS about to be sworn in etc..).

Still, Sun readers will buy into it in their droves, no doubt:ugh:

Storminnorm
8th Jan 2009, 13:07
Someone hasn't given that cow that got hit by the Tiger Moth
some climbing equipment have they?

Obviously NOT.

Cast one blade, damaged the second one. UFO? Horlicks!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:

timmcat
8th Jan 2009, 13:08
I blame sheep.

Storminnorm
8th Jan 2009, 13:12
I used to blame sheep, now they won't talk to me at all!

Capn Notarious
8th Jan 2009, 13:33
Goats climb, but sheep cannot ascend turbine masts as
Unidentified
Foraging
Omnivores

angels
8th Jan 2009, 13:38
If aliens had perfected the art of flying in excess of the speed of light, you'd have also thought they would be able to avoid flying into wind turbines.

dead_pan
8th Jan 2009, 13:43
Has anyone checked to see if Santa returned safely to Lappland? I smell a cover-up - Christmas may have to be cancelled this year kids.

Beatriz Fontana
8th Jan 2009, 13:49
It gets better! Rival media company The Guardian reckons the lights were caused by the family (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/organgrinder/2009/jan/08/windpower-thesun) of one of their journos... :rolleyes:

Storminnorm
8th Jan 2009, 14:01
At least Louth,(Pronounced LowUth by the locals,) made it into
the papers. First time since Geoffrey Archer was told to "Fook
Orf" whilst campaigning for votes on a Darts Night. Tosser! 1965.

Now THERE be aliens!!!:ok:

dazdaz
8th Jan 2009, 15:22
I recon it was target practice by persons unknown using a 12 bore. Case closed.

CATIII-NDB
8th Jan 2009, 16:55
Is the turbine in a low flying area - Have the PVO Strany lost/bent a Tupolev - How close is Lowth to Hull ? -Lights in tthe Sky - Exploding Vodka Bottles - The last people to ask are the RAF - Are we looking at a game of Blackjack. Its on the cards. - Short field landing abort - bringing Vodka to the icy wastes of the Lincolnshire flat lands - UFO be buggered - A bunch of flat earthers more like - and Yes I listened to R4 Today prog on the World Service - Total Dos Vidania. (Renagade Turnip perhaps).

Must Go - The Saucer is getting cold - Its windy up here in the Fens of Ursa Minor.

Where's my Map.
Cat III

con-pilot
8th Jan 2009, 18:38
Naw, it were a meteorite. ;)




















(Under control of a UFO.)





:p

throw a dyce
8th Jan 2009, 18:45
I think they might know...UFO Series Home Page (http://www.ufoseries.com)

Krystal n chips
8th Jan 2009, 19:20
It's the alien life forms on the ground in Lincs that give me most concern :E

Nice lady with a horse on C4 news summed matters up perfectly, "Not much happens around here "......that would be from about the 12th century onwards then ?. :hmm::E

Noah Zark.
8th Jan 2009, 19:28
Further to the article in the good old Currant Bun was a photograph of a UFO in the sky, cunningly disguised as a Sun Dog!

Lon More
8th Jan 2009, 20:15
Can't have been a UFO _ no chemtrails

Sir George Cayley
8th Jan 2009, 20:33
Sorry to say that the UK has sat under huge High pressure system for 10 days with winds light and variable. So posting links to gale force destruction doesn't seem logical, Captain.

In any case, under normal rotation centripedal forces would shirley eject the blade before the next one arrived:confused:

And don't forget, that august journal The Stun reported there was no sign of the missing blade... doo do doo der doo do doo der der:eek:

There will be an entirely logical explanation, but why let that get in the way of a good rumour:ok:

Time for my tablets so must go...

Sir George Cayley

Desert Dingo
8th Jan 2009, 21:19
In any case, under normal rotation centripedal forces would shirley eject the blade before the next one arrivedhttp://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/confused.gif
Broken blade ejected vertically up.
Gravity gets into the act, and blade falls back down to where it started.
Blade gets hit by its mateThere. Sorted. :)

(I'm also available for other accident investigations, if required).

Sallyann1234
8th Jan 2009, 21:33
And don't forget, that august journal The Stun reported there was no sign of the missing blade... doo do doo der doo do doo der der

According to the BBC,
The broken blade has been recovered and is being examined.

HKPAX
8th Jan 2009, 23:08
You guys are forgetting the testimony of the worthy councillor: he saw a mysterious ball of bright light in the vicinity just before the incident. He had just come out of the George & Dragon mind you.....

Dushan
8th Jan 2009, 23:55
Are there any conveyor belts in the vicinity? If so, the turbine reached the "magic" equal speed and the bearing disintegrated. Neo-dude avenged.

con-pilot
9th Jan 2009, 02:14
Nope, it was a meteorite. An aircraft I was flying was hit by a meteorite once.





Well that was what maintanence told me to cover up some really bad inspections they had been doing on the aircraft. :p


I'm not kidding.

Selfloading
9th Jan 2009, 07:46
In any case, under normal rotation centripedal forces would shirley eject the blade before the next one arrivedhttp://static.pprune.org/images/smilies/confused.gifOnly if the blade broke away cleanly, probably thrashed about a bit before it was ejected, and don't call me Shirley :)

IFTB
9th Jan 2009, 07:57
Broken blade ejected vertically up.
Gravity gets into the act, and blade falls back down to where it started.
Blade gets hit by its mate

And the blade it goes straigth up and comes straight back down again?
Yeah, right, there is not twist in the blade and there is not wind on windfarms........... :rolleyes:

1DC
9th Jan 2009, 08:10
A bloke in Bridlington has even got a photograph of the UFO. Another local theory is a big lump of ice that fell off an aircraft.
The engineer says it happens now and then and they will know in a few days what the cause was.
I have seen serious brittle fracture on steel in freezing weather, happened not ten miles from this windmill.Wasn't a UFO that time cos it happened in daylight and everyone knows that UFO's only come out at night..

BlueWolf
9th Jan 2009, 08:53
Windmills are just dead dangerous. You don't get this sort of crap happening with nice safe thermal or nuclear plants, now do you? :suspect::suspect::suspect:

Igor Tupleez
9th Jan 2009, 09:02
Hello English!

I am very interesting in your story about these propellers on poles. Let me eksplain:

We kall to your Tsarina to wish her 'Happy Chrsitmas' but get only answer fone message. My boss Boris says maybe they take them into cellar and shoot them, but I say 'No, I do not believe this', so we make investigation.
We check with embassy in London, and they say family is in No folk. I say No folk - is like Siberia?' and embassy says 'Yes!'
This week is Russian Christmas, so we decide to have some fun, and send Ekranoplan to Great Britain to look at this No folk. Ekranoplan can fly under radar. You find all about this in Wikedpedia which you have. We can see only sheeps and this ugly bird which you eat at Christmas. Boris says it reminds him of the Foreing Secretay you used to have. So, anyway, we go down very low to look at this place, and pilot asks for co-ordinates from tracking device which we put in samovar gift many years ago. But pilot says he can only find scrapyard - is Tsarina now living in scrapyard with Corgi at gate?
So pilot lost concentration and hit propeller - is simple. Now English, what is purpose of propellers on sticks -maybe to blow you closer to Russia, so you can connect to gaz?
Anyway, we try to kall your Mr Frown to eksplain, but sekretary says 'Kabinet is in Liverpool'. I think maybe I kall removal company by mistake, or maybe is special kode, so try again. 'No, says sekretary, 'It's what we call awayday', so I speak to embassy again, and they say sometimes kabinet goes to other city, but makes big problem for us, because no-one in embassy understand local people. Boris says is special policy - last one in Birmingham, next in Newcastle.
Also, why your Prezident live in terras house in kul-de-sak, and work from home? Kredit Krunch is so bad in GB?
Finally, I must tell about Chelski problem. Mr Abramovich like to know new English words, and finds 'thrive' in diktionary. He sends message to Mr Scolari 'Tell Mr Drogba to thrive in box'. Mr Scolari does not understand and ask Polish toilet cleaner what is meaning of word. Mr Scolari speaks to Mr Drogba, and tells him to dive in box - this is cause of problem. Nobody in Chelsea speak English like Igor.
Igor cannot make many posts you call - da? but will be watching, and sending message sometimes.

BlueWolf
9th Jan 2009, 09:06
Good one Farrell :ok:;)

dead_pan
9th Jan 2009, 09:23
Saw the news report about this on the tellybox last night. The locals claimed they had seen a bright yellow orb tracking across the sky. We call it the 'sun' down here in the south.

Oilandgasman
9th Jan 2009, 09:53
...and the very bright light they saw in the early evening sky we call Venus.
Trust the blade heating was in service during the recent cold spell and was designed to protect the blades when OAT at -10C. If heating not in service or capable of maintaining the blade above 0C in recent cold spell then the possibility of a large sheet of ice forming on a blade then breaking free cannot be ruled out. I am lead to believe that a 20 metre sheet of ice striking one or more of these rotating blades is something that should only be observed from at least a mile away.

Sallyann1234
9th Jan 2009, 10:02
We can see only sheeps and this ugly bird which you eat at Christmas.

Thought I hadn't seem Camilla around recently...

Dushan
9th Jan 2009, 10:54
Windmills are just dead dangerous. You don't get this sort of crap happening with nice safe thermal or nuclear plants, now do you? :suspect::suspect::suspect:

I am with you Blue. Ugly too, they are. And they want to put them in water, just off the coast. Imagine sailing around these things, at night, or when the blades are popping off.

dead_pan
9th Jan 2009, 11:35
The Stun reported there was no sign of the missing blade


Thats 'cos they took it away on a flat-bed for 'inspection'. It was allegedly coated in a thin film of green ectoplasm (nothing like stoking a good rumour).

Airways B
9th Jan 2009, 11:39
How much electricity does the 'blade heating' consume? My guess it's more than the thing generates! :ok:

What a waste of resources these things are!:8

frostbite
9th Jan 2009, 12:03
What's all this talk of centripedes?

Useless things only been there five minutes and they're infested with bloody insects!

forget
9th Jan 2009, 12:15
How much electricity does the 'blade heating' consume? My guess it's more than the thing generates!

From Canada.

The airflow de-icing system, commercialised byEnercon, blows hot air into the blade. The heating is homogeneous but the efficiency decreases with blade length increase (Hau, 2006). Consequently, the system is not of interest for large blades and in extreme conditions. The electro-thermal de-icer is used in some sites, such as Canada’s Yukon and Finland’s Pori and Olostrunturi (Laakso et al., 2003). The system can be easily installed on existing blades. The significant energy consumption is its main drawback.

forget
9th Jan 2009, 12:33
PS. If you don't like Wind Turbines - you'll love THIS. (http://www.aweo.org/windconsumption.html)

It may be that each turbine consumes more than 50% of its rated capacity in its own operation. If so, the plant as a whole -- which may produce only 25% of its rated capacity annually -- would be using (for free!) twice as much electricity as it produces and sells. An unlikely situation perhaps, but the industry doesn't publicize any data that proves otherwise; incoming power is apparently not normally recorded.

Flap 5
9th Jan 2009, 12:59
PS. If you don't like Wind Turbines - you'll love THIS. (http://www.aweo.org/windconsumption.html)



I think this will amaze many who think wind turbines are all about free energy. Certain groups of people only wish you to know the good bits about energy derived by such methods. Clearly when there is no or little wind they end up actually using energy just to exist. Not what the green lobby want you to hear.

Blacksheep
9th Jan 2009, 13:00
How much electricity does the 'blade heating' consume? My guess it's more than the thing generates.Sounds like the Tyne Engines on the Belfast. (a freighter aeroplane, not a RN floaty boat thing...) Two 40 KVA alternators to an engine, one for aircraft power and the other for propellor de-icing. Left about 20 KW for driving the aeroplane. :hmm:

Dushan
9th Jan 2009, 13:48
Oh and I love this one:

"using the generator as a motor (to help the blades start to turn when the wind speed is low or, as many suspect, to maintain the illusion that the facility is producing electricity when it is not,‡ particularly during important site tours)






‡An observer in Toronto, Ontario, points out that the blades of the turbines installed at the Pickering nuclear plant and Exhibition Place turn 90% of the time, even when there is barely a breeze and when the blades are not properly pitched -- in a region acknowledged to have low wind resource.





Not me honest, but I wish it was....

forget
9th Jan 2009, 14:03
Dushan, Why ddin't you include this :hmm:

§"In large rotating power trains such as this, if allowed to stand motionless for any period of time, the unit will experience "bowing" of shafts and rotors under the tremendous weight. Therefore, frequent rotating of the unit is necessary to prevent this.

Storminnorm
9th Jan 2009, 14:07
I reckon that it's only a matter of time before HMG
force EVERY house in the entire country to have it's own
cycle powered generator to help save on ANY sort of
emissions, carbon or otherwise.
A meter will be fitted to each property to indicate IF the
household has achieved the required Kilowatt output as
dictated by the local council.
Failing to do so will result in severe penalties being imposed.

OFSO
9th Jan 2009, 14:18
Sitting on my terrace yesterday, dozing, eyes closed.

Sun goes in, open my eyes, large round flying object is hovering above my house, door open in underside.

Someone shouting something.

I cup hand to my ear, yes, I can make it out:

"Pliz, where we find Beatriz Fontana ?"

I shake my head, door in flying object slams shut and it whizzes off, knocking down half my garden wall on the way. (Honest, I have pictures).

Please don't annoy them any further !

R

Dushan
10th Jan 2009, 00:54
Dushan, Why ddin't you include this :hmm:

§"In large rotating power trains such as this, if allowed to stand motionless for any period of time, the unit will experience "bowing" of shafts and rotors under the tremendous weight. Therefore, frequent rotating of the unit is necessary to prevent this.

Forget,
because, ultimately, it does not mater what the reason for spinning them is. The end result is that they require electricity, generated by alternate means, to spin them.

It just sounds a more to the form of the entire movement, that it is the optics of the issue that are more important than the substance.
So spinning them to impress the public is a very plausible option.

Low Flier
10th Jan 2009, 12:18
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01235/matt10012009_1235660a.gif

603DX
10th Jan 2009, 12:40
IMHO, the main purpose of these wind farms is to be seen "to be doing something" about the looming vision of power cuts caused by inadequate forward planning, carbon emissions hysteria, and irrational fears of the nuclear solution. Forward planning went out of the window with the privatisation of our power industry. Thanks for that, Maggie!

So whole swathes of the UK have already been visually ruined by these ugly and hopelessly inefficient manifestations of wishful thinking, with many more in the pipeline.

One extreme case is the planned offshore installation in the Thames Estuary, the least windy part of the entire UK, for heaven's sake! Didn't anyone consult the UK isopleth maps of gusts, mean hourly and longer-averaged wind speeds before planting these scores of ship-collision hazards in harm's way?

Storminnorm
10th Jan 2009, 13:12
Personally I think they look quite nice.

frostbite
10th Jan 2009, 14:38
Personally I think they look as if they belong in a Disney theme park.

Storminnorm
10th Jan 2009, 14:44
Probably look better with a passenger carrying gondola
at the end of each blade. Good idea! :ok:

CUNIM
10th Jan 2009, 15:04
Better to have an MP strapped to the ends of each blade

Overdrive
11th Jan 2009, 03:29
The con goes on...

Tyres O'Flaherty
11th Jan 2009, 06:37
So if you can move rotate these things ( Just run with me on this one ok...), the Props that is, by leccy ? ?

So, juice the feckers up & move the country a bit further south to somewhere warmer

Anyone ?

Quite fancy the Med meself :ok:

(edit) It'll also make it harder for those Anal probing lot to find the place

Beatriz Fontana
11th Jan 2009, 16:09
"Pliz, where we find Beatriz Fontana ?"

Ah yes, the boys were wanting a few beers that night :}

Usually they start their greetings with "'Scuse me, old chap" so that's a little poor form. They didn't mention taking a chunk out of your wall, OFSO, so I'll have words.

OFSO
13th Jan 2009, 06:51
Don't mock the UFO theory - the collision site has now been sealed off by "security forces" (is that like The Force as in "may be with you" ?) to prevent people collecting pieces of the UFO...... See "The Register" for authentic details (or "The Sun" for other details).

Strangely enough, Beatriz, there is a piece of unearthly-glass mirror near my demolished wall, which may ACTUALLY be from a UFO wing mirror as they headed for cover after hitting the wind turbine...check with your friends please !

R

BladePilot
13th Jan 2009, 09:42
Ushering in of the New Year (2009) will be delayed by 1 second to compensate for the slowing of the Earths rotation caused by the multitude of wind farms around the globe.
Scientists warn that by 2050 the drag caused by large windfarms could slow Earths rotation by 1 minute annually. This theory is fully supported by weather man Michael Fish a well known authority on winds who majors in Hurricane prediction.

:)

FlyingOfficerKite
13th Jan 2009, 12:18
There's probably a jet tucked away in a hanger somewhere with 'a few bits missing'.

Security forces there to carry out the investigation and recover said 'bits'.

FOK :)

dead_pan
13th Jan 2009, 13:43
Scientists warn that by 2050 the drag caused by large windfarms could slow Earths rotation by 1 minute annually


If all of the ants in the world walked west at the same time they too would slow the Earth's rotation by a similar amount. I aired this theory a few years back down me local and bizarrely its now an accepted scientific truth in these parts.

Storminnorm
13th Jan 2009, 14:29
Surely if all the ants walked West it would speed it up?

dead_pan
13th Jan 2009, 19:22
Dammit - 20 years of research wasted! And I thought that Nobel laureate was finally within my grasp :{

1DC
13th Jan 2009, 21:10
If we could teach the ants to walk on treadmills and generating electricity then we wouldn't need the windmills..

the incivil beast
13th Jan 2009, 22:42
maybe the treadmills could be replaced by one large conveyor belt at the equator :E :E

BladePilot
14th Jan 2009, 14:32
So how about wiring up all the treadmills in all the gyms around the country to feed electricity back into the national grid:p

forget
16th Jan 2009, 12:25
Failed sensor caused ice shards


BBC NEWS | England | Cambridgeshire | Failed sensor caused ice shards (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7832655.stm)

The failure of a sensor to halt a giant wind turbine when temperatures fall is blamed for shards of ice crashing into nearby homes in Cambridgeshire.

The Cornwall Light and Power 80m (262ft) turbine was put up in August, near an industrial estate and close to homes in King's Dyke, Whittlesey.

On 29 November chunks of ice started crashing into gardens.

An investigation revealed a sensor had failed. Now the turbines will shut down if temperatures drop below 4ºC (38ºF).

Neil Harris, chief executive at Cornwall Light & Power, said: "We have conducted a thorough investigation into what happened and how to ensure the safe operation of the turbine during icy conditions.

"The sensor that we had been advised to rely upon in stopping the turbine under icy conditions did not perform as expected.

"We have proposed the turbine is automatically stopped if temperatures drop below 4ºC. :ugh::ugh::ugh:

"New equipment will then be installed which will detect the formation of ice on the blades, and which will stop the turbine operating.

"We have gone into great detail with the turbine manufacturer and have kept the Health and Safety Executive informed throughout.

"We have also met with local residents and businesses to explain this and to advise that the turbine will be operational again."


PS. It gets worse. From a related web.

A spokesman said the turbine should have worked at temperatures as low as -20C and the company wants to find out what caused the ice to form and what went wrong.

I can't imagine. :uhoh:

Storminnorm
16th Jan 2009, 13:40
How did people manage in prop driven aircraft, eh?

1DC
10th Feb 2009, 08:38
Sorry folks the aliens didn't do it..Report out today says material fatigue in the region of the blade securing bolts caused the bolts to fail.. Investigations continue..

tony draper
10th Feb 2009, 08:45
Probably fake poor quality tin bolts made in China,apparently the Aviation industry is worried about faked Chinese nuts and bolts holding the wings on 747s and such.
:uhoh:

Lon More
10th Feb 2009, 08:48
Metal fatigue caused by aliens urinating on it?

Big business is bogus aircraft parts. Loads of mullah being made there.
Those would be Jesus nuts Mr. D.

BladePilot
10th Feb 2009, 09:05
Well now that you mention bogus bits.
Back in the 80's we discovered fake brake pads had been delivered to our Engineering stores. They were taken away and tested to destruction alongside genuine parts.
Guess which performed best?

You got it give that man a coconut!


The fake parts came out best in four (4) out of five (5) tests:eek:


Unfortuantely we were unable to trace the source of the bougus bits and were therefore unable to set up an account with the dodgy supplier meaning that we had to continue to pay enormously inflated prices for inferior 'genuine' parts.:{

G-CPTN
10th Feb 2009, 09:34
As one who has been involved in manufacturing (and marketing) of 'pattern parts' for vehicle brakes (friction linings and pads) I can state that there is good and bad.
Our company did back-to-back tests on dynamometers and selected from a wide range of materials that were also supplied as original equipment to major vehicle manufacturers (where extensive vehicle tests by both ourselves and the vehicle manufacturer were carried out). Other suppliers fabricated so-called friction materials that were unstable when subjected to arduous use or used materials that were inadequate for the duty levels.

iws
10th Feb 2009, 17:26
Golly Gosh!

Windy Militant
10th Feb 2009, 22:17
Other suppliers fabricated so-called friction materials that were unstable when subjected to arduous use

Like the spate of vehicle fires caused by the hardboard brake shoes being sold by some ingenious entrepreneurs who discovered that the pattern embossed into the back side of the decorative building material to provide a key while gluing, matched the surface finish of a certain Brake makers product. :}