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Rollingthunder
30th Dec 2008, 10:14
I had it once and let it slip. and never had it again. I regret that to this day and in all my dreams.

The calliope crashed to the ground.

Mac the Knife
30th Dec 2008, 10:22
Yep, it happens. I can think of two. Met a third and she went and died.

I console myself by saying that it would have all turned to crap like the rest of 'em but don't really believe it.

Unfortunately life is not a dress-rehearsal :(

Drive on and don't look back...... :ok:

traveler
30th Dec 2008, 11:22
At least you have your dreams. I do too.

Mac's got it right ... Drive on ... focus on the next smile.

Shack37
30th Dec 2008, 11:53
Found it in 1980, still have it.

Then again, I never win at cards:ok:
s37

Bucket
30th Dec 2008, 13:28
Sorry folks, I feel a little behind the drag curve here (not had my morning coffee yet). What er, exactly are we talking about? :O

Partners; the love of our life?

future.boeing.cpt
30th Dec 2008, 13:31
:}Maybe Kiera Knightley in the movie?

mmmm

603DX
30th Dec 2008, 14:43
And then there are those, termed "celebrities", "Blinded by the light, revved up like a deuce", who are, and remain, deeply in love with themselves.

We know who they are .......

Storminnorm
30th Dec 2008, 15:14
Met in Oct 66, Married in May 67, Still together in 08. :ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok::ok:

merlinxx
30th Dec 2008, 19:00
Once met, once loved then lost, never forgotten and still loved:{

If only we knew then, what we know now:ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Love is not lost, but tis cherished:ok:

brickhistory
30th Dec 2008, 20:00
The soulmate who abruptly decided seven years later that she wasn't.

V2-OMG!
30th Dec 2008, 20:04
Rollingthunder, if you carry the memory and desire for love -
it has not slipped away.

I know the haunt of something which could have been, but never was.

It is hard to understand those whys. Leonardo da Vinci devoted his creative genius to those mechanical and mystical questions. Did you know that he was also mesmerized by thunder, and I quote:
"I roamed the countryside searching for answers to things I did not understand. Why thunder lasts longer than that which causes it, and why immediately on its creation the lightning becomes visible to the eye while
thunder requires time to travel."

I see an analogy there. Lightning is akin to lust. Both are superficial - a flash. Love, like thunder, endures - but its roar "requires time to travel."

Both have their own kind of "static," but it is a homonym. Lust's static is only that quick burst. Love's static is electric, and is everywhere.

I hope I have not embarrassed you with a literal interpretation of your handle. I can't help myself. I tend to wear those epaulettes on my heart - not on the shoulder.

Thank-you for giving me the inspiration. You are very courageous to express your emotional vulnerability. Many men can't - or won't.

V2.

MMEMatty
30th Dec 2008, 20:47
Kids, your Uncle Billy has something to say to you; Don't buy drugs...





...Become a rock star, and they give you them for free!:ok:

henry crun
30th Dec 2008, 21:18
The bard knew what he was talking about.

Love comforteth like sunshine after rain;
But lust's effect is tempest after sun;
Love's gentle spring doth always fresh remain;
Lust's winter comes, er summer half be done.
Love surfeits not; Lust like a glutton dies;
Love all truth; Lust full of forged lies.

mdt001
31st Dec 2008, 05:41
She's just told me, after 4 years in our relationship, that she doesnt want a bloke in her life anymore.

"We can still be friends, tho".

Just friends? Bollocks.

I'm not very happy, me.

Track Coastal
31st Dec 2008, 06:01
Met in Oct 66, Married in May 67, Still together in 08.
Congrats Stormin. Nice work.

87 met, 89 married...From love in public places to more visits to the doghouse than my Jack Russell.

Would do it again tomorrow.

BlueDiamond
31st Dec 2008, 06:06
"We can still be friends, tho".
Rubbish. Men and women can certainly be good and loyal friends but usually never when there has been romance between them, or when one person would like there to be romance between them. What she probably means is that you can possibly maintain a civilised and friendly relationship ... and that is not the same as being friends with someone.

Just friends?
"Just" and "friends" are not words that should be used next to each other.

arcniz
31st Dec 2008, 07:54
Bluey says,

Men and women can certainly be good and loyal friends but usually never when there has been romance between them, or when one person would like there to be romance between them. What she probably means is that you can possibly maintain a civilised and friendly relationship ... and that is not the same as being friends with someone.

I agree entirely, Bluey. (Merry Xmas!)

Had a green envelope arrive a few days back, bearing an address not unreachably far away and a name unfamiliar in one's current circle of acquaintances and associates. Could not puzzle out the source, except for a brief moment thinking it might be a once young female chum with whom I enjoyed a warm but largely innocent relationship many decades back while attending a certain University. She was several years older, a beautiful, slim, perky English lass of considerable charm and sophistication, and a poignant sense of humour.

Though I did not know so then, her sibling a few years elder was (and still is), a widely admired personage of global reputation as an adventurer, scientist, and environmentalist pioneer - a name everyone here would instantly recognise - but was little known and very much in the thick of a risky situation during the time we were pals. C's occasional crying spells and sad days I took for the moodiness of a normal 20-something female, (not really being wise in the subject) when they were actually a very tempered reaction of hers to the sibling's immediate & ongoing circumstance of increasing danger in a wild remote place many thousands of miles away.)

Against this (unimagined & undiscussed) backdrop we enjoyed most of a very sweet, friendly and pleasant summer, socialising together and with others and taking longer and shorter trips, including quite a number of overnights, and going to movies and making improvised meals out of very eclectic ingredients at her little flat across the track from a small-town rail station; doing most all the other things that one sees or reads about in idealised and uncomplicated storybook boy-girl relationships. I would have gladly escalated our very friendly connection into a symphony of fervid escapades, but her charm and resourcefulness, combined with a few years greater experience in managing such situations, kept the connection quite friendly but short of boiling point for the duration, until finally that brilliant summer ended and circumstances quickly propelled us toward opposite horizons, never to see one another again.

For now, I have left the unopened green envelope on the entry table. Am not sure that I will ever open it, lest the sweet insouciance of those good times fall prey to review and interpretation by reference to more contemporary, more complex, and more intrusive realities that bear no relation, deserve no connection.

Rollingthunder
31st Dec 2008, 08:08
open it damn it. Regrets are worthless.

arcniz
31st Dec 2008, 08:39
Rollingthunder says:

open it damn it. Regrets are worthless.


Point Taken. But I have no regrets! That episode was, perhaps, the last simple, absolutely uncomplicated moment in a compoundingly turbid life, with ample subsequent opportunity, need and occasion for swimming in regret, were one so inclined.

Complications, the more likely denouement of opening the envelope and possibly reopening that thread, tend to be troublesome, dangerous, and variously painful or expensive. By contrast, idle memories are immutable if left cast in the resin of time long past.

So... unhappy regrets worthless... warm memories rare and invaluable.

(OK, I'm not going to toss the letter out right yet, either. 'Tis a puzzle.)

hardhatter
31st Dec 2008, 08:54
@arcniz:

please, open it! Now you make us all very curious, taunting us, but you will not open it!

We need a "4 weddings and a funeral"-type end to this year of misery!

:D

Rollingthunder
31st Dec 2008, 08:55
This thread is starting to become evocative. Who'd a thunk it?

arcniz
31st Dec 2008, 09:06
hardhatter says:

@arcniz:

please, open it! Now you make us all very curious, taunting us, but you will not open it!

We need a "4 weddings and a funeral"-type end to this year of misery!



Sorry! My goal in telling was to share an interesting perspective, but not to taunt. Besides, this year is already over in my book..... will just hold my breath till the bell dings, hoping no further calamities boil out of the telly.

Seems like 2009 will be longer than most, so maybe there's yet time to sort it right.

Curious Pax
31st Dec 2008, 09:10
Do I understand correctly that you only think the green envelope might be from the lady in question? It could of course be a new colour used by the taxman when sending substantial refunds, or by the Premium bond people when sending cheques greater than 10,000.

If you send it to me I'll check for you. A sample of your signature would probably be handy too ;)

Sallyann1234
31st Dec 2008, 11:10
You selfish [email protected] arcniz.
The lovely lady has (you think) taken the huge step of writing to you after all these years, probably after much soul-searching. She's sitting there wondering how you will respond, and you can't even be arsed to open it.
:mad:

Storminnorm
31st Dec 2008, 14:38
Chuck it in the bin Arcniz.
If it didn't work out then, it damn well won't now.

Rwy in Sight
31st Dec 2008, 18:36
Yes, by all means open it. It would solve the mystery and something good might come from it. And as Sallyann1234 said that the lady took the pain to send a card.

And my answer to the thread (if the orginal issue is still being discussed): It took me several years to understand what it takes to consider a lady as suitable to be referred to as Mrs. Rwy in Sight (and not my future ex). There have been 5 ladies in the last 10 years and for the 3 of them I was not in a position in life to handle it seriously. In September 2006 I got back again with one of those ladies. Instead to make everything possible to help us being together, I just stated that I only care to have fun (little voice telling me wrong things to say). She promptly did find someone else and I suspect she is married with a young child.

Then in August I met a lady that I would like very much to present as Mrs. Rwy in Sight. I refrained from telling her how much I liked her (fro fear of being rejected) and nothing happend. When we met last November I explained everything to her and she stated that would welcome my move but she is in a complicated phase with someone she knows in the last 20 years. We keep talking daily for the last month or so but I can't "pull" her close to me.

Apologies for the long somewhat irrelevant post (which I hope is clear) but yes when we found love we need luck to see it. At least I can go back believing that ex's are very important.

Rwy in Sight

OFSO
1st Jan 2009, 09:09
NEVER LET MORALITY STAND IN THE WAY OF DOING WHAT IS RIGHT !

RaF

ShyTorque
1st Jan 2009, 10:46
Had a green envelope arrive a few days back, bearing an address not unreachably far away and a name unfamiliar in one's current circle of acquaintances and associates.

Well, it's not your letter then, is it? :rolleyes:

:p

Beatriz Fontana
1st Jan 2009, 11:44
Rwy in Sight. What a top bloke! That's absolutely the way to approach life. But do tell a woman what you think about here. Goes for the girls, too. What's the worse that can happen? Disinterest, usually, so say something!

arcniz. My dad has a saying. Nothing gets better the longer you leave it (even a good stilton has its day). And he's right, about both life and the stilton. Open the envelope!

traveler
1st Jan 2009, 12:55
You still have the choice to reply or not. Aren't you curious about the words ?? Or is there a current relation that hold you back ?

cockney steve
1st Jan 2009, 14:04
Presumably the address concerned, is a "return" one?
Also, presumably, the "to" addy. was correctly addressed toMr. Arcniz.

So, I think you're being an egotistical, self-aggrandising ,selfish knob of the highest order.

(OK, i'm holding back, cos it's a public forum:E )

How do you know that this isn't an announcement of the passing of an acquaintance?....a plea for help from a third-party, for a forgotten contact.

a conciliatory note from someone who's realised life's too short to poison daily life with bitter grudges?

there are a million reasons why a missive (we all ASSUME it's a card! ) should come from an unrecognised hand.

the originator obviously felt it important enough to put their return address, thus being certain it was delivered.

Stop being so bloody precious and selfish, do your respondent the courtesy of reading the contents and confirming receipt .
It may well not be a pleasant job and may shatter a few illusions...OTOH, it could open a new and rewarding chapter in your life.

stop being a cnut...open it.:\

Juud
1st Jan 2009, 14:39
Arcniz, what cockney steve said. To the power of 10!

Don't agree with some of you and the Bard.
Love comforteth like sunshine after rain;
But lust's effect is tempest after sun;
Love's gentle spring doth always fresh remain;
Lust's winter comes, er summer half be done.
Love surfeits not; Lust like a glutton dies;
Love all truth; Lust full of forged lies.
Love is wonderful and thrilling and valuable and pure and romantic and what we are all supposed to aspire to yes. But in a marriage it can also be bl##dy hard work, especially when trying to raise a family, making two careers work and striving to pay the bills.
I have found there were periods of time when love became a dim and distant memory. Something you could remember with a wry smile at best.
Lust on the other hand was dependable, easy to kindle and an excellent means of removing the burrs and sharp edges from the relationship.
It's hard to carry a grudge against somebody with whom you regularly share the most utterly satisfying and exciting sex. ;)

Almost in spite of yourselves, you look at eachother with a kinder eye the day after. It's a purely physical, chemical reaction but for my money, lust in a marriage does the trick when everything else seems to fail.
And if you're really lucky, love resurfaces regularly, and then you're so very glad you always 'settled' for mindless lust rather than a considered divorce.

Then again.......... we're not British ;)

Gypsy_Air
1st Jan 2009, 16:36
Love (unrequited) is painful and annoying. :ugh: It's too damned irrational, that's the trouble!

Storminnorm
1st Jan 2009, 17:10
Send it to me Arcniz, I'll open it for you. :ok:

G-CPTN
1st Jan 2009, 17:17
Love (unrequited) is painful and annoying. It's too damned irrational, that's the trouble!
The more so when you've spent 35 years together and raised two children to adulthood . . .

Rwy in Sight
1st Jan 2009, 22:59
Arcniz,

Back in late summer 2002, there was a thread running on the Agony Aunt forum about if it is better to have loved and get hurt or not to have and not to got hurt (I hope it makes sense). If I am not mistaken most members agreed that it is better to have loved and get hurt.

So do it. Open the envelope.

Rwy in Sight

mdt001
2nd Jan 2009, 02:47
Open it. You two really were friends. Youve got nothing to loose, and potentially, lots to gain.

Thanks for seeing it my way Bluey.