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Civil Disobedience
17th Dec 2008, 01:03
Hello. Just inquiring if anybody out there has done or attempted both Oz or JAA Atpl Performance papers. My questions to them would be:

which one (Oz or JAA) would requires the more comprehensive/in-depth study of aircraft performance especially in relation to take-off, approach, and landing;
which one is tailored to the whole gamut of aircraft type and does not specifically focus on one particular type or model e.g. B727;
which one would benefit an Airport Designer (involved in Runway design) more, e.g. one project I may be dealing with pistons, the next could be turboprops and turbofans/jets.
do any of the two touch on or focus intently, on any aspects of Pans-Ops, RNP, PBN.I should qualify this by saying that I want to "beef" up my knowledge for Airport Engineering and have been told that a JAA ATPL Performance (A) credit would assist, but am hoping that a credit from someone a little closer to home would be just as impressive. As I want to start specialising more with the Aircraft side of Airport Design, and being a typical Engineer, I want to get back to first principles, especially covering the three bullets above.

I look forward to any advice - and yeah I'll take the good with the bad ;-)

For the record, ex NZCPL/MEIR, with frozen ATPL (now well and truly frozen !)

john_tullamarine
17th Dec 2008, 04:23
I'm not an airports man but have worked closely with such over a reasonable period. From my observations, the civil engineers prefer to whistle up a performance engineer when they require specific guidance .. along the lines of seeing a brain surgeon rather than cardiologist when you need brain surgery ..

Can't really see that the pilot exam credit would be of any use at all to the design side.

My suggestions would be

(a) get a copy of Worthington (which will give you a good background of pilot flight planning problems - somewhat dated, though).

(b) read the relevant sections of the FARs and CAOs to see what the rules require

(c) find a copy of a suitable flight manual and have a play with the charts .. while there is some variation seen in presentation, they are all airs and variations on the basic theme

So far as engine type is concerned, doesn't really matter other than in consideration of blast and geometry.

You might try sending an email to OverRun as he would be the best man here (being an airports man) to advise on what an airports engineer might best benefit from.