latest noise monitoring methods

[Bang Bus]

Interesting little website I came across, worth a look!! Once you have selected a location the "display" tab gives you the option of displaying aircraft info including, a/c type and alt.



Airservices Australia - Aircraft Noise - WebTrak Locations (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aviationenvironment/noise/webtrak/locations.asp)

[blueloo]

there was a big thing on the news the other night with someone (albanese i think) sprouting on about the new 20 million dollar website.......with a 40 minute lag due to potential terrorism!

[bensonC]

Very cool, thanks for sharing:ok:

[nick2007]

Actual data may be delayed by 40 mins, but the "point of closest approach" function gives you a disturbing amount of detail regarding the location of the aircraft (distance, angle of elevation), and thus, typical flight paths.

The only thing it lacks is an option to display lead deflection angles. So much for aviation security. :ugh:

What an extraordinary waste of public money.

[No Further Requirements]

How many Air Traffic Controllers could $20 million attract/retain? Why are we pumping money into video games that less than 1% of the public would ever have a use for? How about solving the staffing issues that effect a lot more people!

Cheers,

NFR.

[Awol57]

I thought it was so we could do it from home?? :bored::}

[FFG 02]

The Age, 12 Dec 08.

Communities get online tool to monitor aircraft noiseDecember 12, 2008
People living near Australia's major airports will be able to monitor aircraft noise and flight movements around their homes using a new website.

The Australian-first WebTrak site will allow people to track a specific aircraft's flight path, get information on what type of plane it is, its height and distance from their homes and its noise output.

Extra portable noise monitors will also be rolled out and more than 40 existing monitors will be upgraded under the $20 million initiative.

Using air traffic control surveillance radars, WebTrak tracks aircraft movements within 55km of eight of Australia's busiest airports - Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra, Sydney, Brisbane, Cairns and Coolangatta.

The information is provided almost in real time, with a delay of 40 minutes for security reasons, and people can also access the previous week's data.

Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese launched WebTrak at Sydney airport on Thursday, saying it was important to balance the needs of communities with the economic benefits generated by aviation in Australia.

He said aviation generated more than $6 billion for the economy and provided 50,000 direct and 500,000 indirect jobs.

The program would give communities concerned about noise more information than ever before, making airport operations more transparent, Mr Albanese said.

"Part of the frustration that has been felt in the past has been a lack of available information from these communities," he said.

"This will change that."

The 40-minute delay in the data was "commonsense" and had been implemented on advice from security experts, he said.

"You wouldn't want people to be able to track precisely the trajectory of planes in real time," he said.

But the NSW Greens criticised the scheme, saying it wouldn't achieve anything.

Greens councillor Max Phillips, from Marrickville Council in Sydney's inner-west, which is under a flight path, said residents already knew very well where aircraft were in relation to their homes.

"Webtrak is fiddling at the edges," he said.

"It is the kind of PR stunt you do when you aren't prepared to address the main issue.

"We want real action on aircraft noise."

WebTrak can be accessed through Airservices Australia's website at Airservices Australia - Aircraft Noise - WebTrak (http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/webtrak)

[undervaluedATC]

absolute WOFTAM : like most projects unrelated to AsA core business (which is actually separating aircraft - would you believe - not publishing glossy brochures or spinning media releases, although you could be forgiven for thinking it is the latter.)


AsA "negotiations": we cant pay our controllers any more than 4% (and even then only if they give up several existing terms and conditions - so it's not really a payrise, just changing the mixture of reimbursement)
but on a seperate, totally unrelated note, here's a website that cost $20,000,000.

[cattledog]

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For an organisation with staff falling over themselves to leave, and who are now crying poor from the rooftops, this latest extravagant waste of money is truely appaling.

I feel sick :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk::mad::mad::mad:

[South Park]

Plane Plotter... PlanePlotter from COAA (http://www.coaa.co.uk/planeplotter.htm)

I dunno how this stuff can be let into the general public. I have it and anyone with a ADSB box shares the data over the net. You can download the maps for Australia

You have to pay $40 to get the internet stream but its once off and you can view everything and you need nothing but an internet connection and the software !

- speed
- altitude
- route
- sqauck code
- co-ordinates to the aircraft

etc etc

[jj232]

for all of you who work for ASA, I am suprised your suprised!!! There will never be a shortage of money for stupid ideas in this company.

[ER_BN]

jj232

It's just that the amounts of money get bigger and the ideas stupider!

[C-change]

Your all wrong, this is great. Public money well spent.

AsA asked a bunch of year 9 students at Manly High to design this so that the year 7 kids could have a go at being an ATC.
The idea is that you make it look like a game and the kids will love it. Once enough of them get Mum and Dad to upgrade to ADSL2 plans, they can do live traffic while watching TV and there is no longer a need for an ATC college or ATC centres.

See, now the staff situation is solved, wages are no longer a problem and everyone is happy.

And you guys didn't think things would be sorted out by the 21st Decemeber.

Money well spent !!! :ok: