727F and 737F F/O Sliding Window Ext Release

[BelArgUSA]

The original cargo 727 and 737 airplanes (in fact, 707Cs as well) have an external release of the F/O cockpit sliding window permitting access from the outside of the airplane. I remember this feature for the PanAm's 727-21QC and 707-321Cs that I flew in the 1970/80s. All 707, 727 and 737 cargo airplanes which were "real cargo" from Boeing had this feature.
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Now, my question is regarding the many "passenger" 707, 727 and 737 airplanes which were fitted (later) with a cargo door and converted to cargo configuration.
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Did the conversion (at times very "crude") include installation of this feature on the outside of the F/O sliding window...? These airplanes (many 727 and 737s) were called 727-100F, 727-200F or 737-200F (rather than using the letter "C"). It is possible that they did not include that feature.
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I am assisting a 727/737 instructor and sending him copies of my 727C and 727QC material, publications and notes, but he asked me whether these converted planes did indeed include the feature as required in the original cargo airplanes. My manuals being the original Boeing and PanAm 727 books include the external F/O sliding window release handle.
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Likely that flight crews or technicians of "small package airlines" would know about this, UPS, DHL etc... I know that IAI in Tel Aviv did a lot of these conversions in the 1980s, but "did they" include an external release...?
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Thank you for letting me know.
As you see, this "old fart" does not know it all...!
:rolleyes:
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[helldriver]

I was working on X Lufthansa converted B727F with DHL and at no time was aware or saw any external release handle.

[nbairlines]

goedemiddag meneer!,

I can only inform you about the B737-300 u/i 900 aircraft.
As far as I know (and seem to recall) the pax version of above mentioned types are already equipped with a F/O sliding window that can be opened from the outside (so no need to add this feature when converting into 737C )

All the best,

NB

PS, For some detailed reference I find http://www.b737.co.uk/ very usefull.

[727gm]

Our B727F's in the USA had to have"security tape" bridging from the interior of the sliding window to the aircraft structure when the aircraft was secured, for this reason.

[junior_man]

I flew 737 200, 300 and 400 pax versions and all had the external release on FO sliding window.

[Chille Con Carnie]

I,ve seen many external release Flap,s etc
for the F/O,S sliding window on the classic
Part of the daily check ?

[MarkerInbound]

I've flown 727-214s, -222s, -223s, -224s, -232s, -234s, -243s, -251s, -259s, -287s and 2JOs, all converted to freighters (by three different STCs) and as I recall, all had the extenal right window release. I think they came from Boeing that way before the cargo conversion.

[BelArgUSA]

I thank everyone of you, for the info provided.
Guess it is better to assume that all Boeing 727 or 737 cargo airplanes have the F/O window EXT handle.
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Had to supply a few test questions, so I worded one this way...
What provision for cockpit windows opening exist on cargo airplanes...?
a. Both captain and F/O sliding windows can be opened from outside
b. Only captain sliding window can be opened from outside
c. Only F/O sliding window can be opened from outside
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Again, thanks a bunch to all of you.
:D
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