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Peter Brady
6th Nov 2008, 02:33
Some time ago there were reports that Ozjet had acquired a B727F and were also looking at a few B737-300s.

Does anyone have any news on these acquisitions? Am surprised the B727F is not flying yet and does not seem to have been added to the CASA register. Same with the B733.

Skystar320
6th Nov 2008, 04:29
VH-VLH is sitting in melbourne and is currently up for sale

sayallafter
6th Nov 2008, 06:14
Didn't they buy two 727-200F?

Did see that VLH was listed for sale though, believe that it us up for a C Check as well.

727ace
6th Nov 2008, 11:13
believe ozjet now own VLH currently in JHAS Hangar readying it for overseas check .Heard that the other one VLI (i think) will join it soon at Ozjet and then will join the Toll fleet of 737's

Skystar320
6th Nov 2008, 22:45
I believe both of these aircraft are up for sale...... I dont think any will join the fleet [though i can be wrong]

Grivation
7th Nov 2008, 06:05
Anyone else think the minimims for Ozjet employment are a little out of touch with the current market?

8000hrs for a 737 skipper + 3000 jet command
4000hrs for an FO + 1000 jet

Tell 'em they're deamin'
No wonder they have to keep advertising :confused:

Square Bear
7th Nov 2008, 06:42
From their site:

*Minimum total aeronautical experience of 8,000 hours.
*Minimum In-Command medium or Heavy Jet time of 3,000 hours.

Have to ask why you would bother appying for a 737 - 200 line job with them if you had those requirements!

My guess is that they would loose quite a few current skippers if they made those requirements retrospective.

Grivation, I agree with your thinking.

Alice Kiwican
7th Nov 2008, 06:57
Maybe there chasing ex Air Force jet drivers because with those minimums they've got little to no hope finding guys in this country!
I think you'd find that most guys with those hours (that want to) are already driving shiny new jets!

Square Bear
7th Nov 2008, 07:41
Alice

I doubt you would find many (if any) Air Force Jet drivers that would make those minimun requirements.

Maybe they are looking for OS retirees looking for a bit of extra retirement cash.

SeldomFixit
7th Nov 2008, 09:29
Or perhaps insurance minimums for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,such an operation, demand it

sayallafter
7th Nov 2008, 10:31
Seldomfixit

tell me you are joking, Ozjet have been running RPT, ACMI, CHT (domestic and international) and code sharing with a major operator for quite some time with Captains with less command time that they now require.

Can't believe that the insurance companies are now driving the recruitment minimuns.

That insurance furphie gets dragged out all the time!!!!

SeldomFixit
8th Nov 2008, 02:08
More to ANY operation than the polers :ok:

volare_737
9th Nov 2008, 00:52
Any ideas of how much an F/O and CPT gets paid, and how long to upgrade if you start as an F/O ?

Green gorilla
9th Nov 2008, 03:48
The hours have increased since I last looked 18 months ago must be the overseas drivers they are counting on coming home.

cunninglinguist
11th Nov 2008, 02:41
Just over a year ago they employed a DEC chap with zero jet command, how things have changed :confused:

With CPT pay around 130K for 700hrs/year, good luck Ozjet :hmm:

Frank Burden
12th Nov 2008, 09:06
Would they be a good long term employment prospect in the current economic climate? Who owns them? Do they have deep pockets?

Skystar320
12th Nov 2008, 11:48
Heavylift, and that says a 100 words

Mach E Avelli
13th Nov 2008, 23:11
Deep pockets - unknown. Short arms - definitely.

OpsNormal
13th Nov 2008, 23:22
4000hrs for an FO + 1000 jet
Tell 'em they're deamin'
No wonder they have to keep advertising

Try reading their advert again, here it is....



FIRST OFFICERS

Currently flying Jet or Turboprop operations.
Australian ATPL and current First Class Medical Certificate..
Current Command Instrument Rating
Minimum total Aeronautical experience of 4,000 hours including Jet or Turbine time of 1,000 hours.


It must be a little to subtle for some...

Trojan01
14th Nov 2008, 06:26
Does OJ own Heavy or viceversa?
Heard today that the Heavy aircraft arnt doing much flying
Whats happening?

Skystar320
14th Nov 2008, 09:18
Heavylift own OzJet.

Whiskery
14th Nov 2008, 11:05
Oh well, that's the end of Ozjet then. :E

Kangaroo Court
14th Nov 2008, 11:19
Their website is pretty cool. If the price of fuel keeps going down, they just might have found a niche to be profitable. There is a market for a good charter airline in Australia. I think that it's interesting they chose the -200. I have only flown the simulator which I got the type in; it seems like a nice flying bird if the real aircraft flies the same way.

mauswara
15th Nov 2008, 09:31
The -200 is an exceptionally nice aeroplane to(hand) fly.Better than all the other types,(according to those that have flown all the types!)

Kangaroo Court
15th Nov 2008, 20:47
Yeah, they've got me kind of curious. I used to be one of the naysayers of OZJet, but it appears that they've proved us all wrong. It seems like the adhoc market, together with the niche RPT market is still alive and well.

So I might fire them off a resume. 11k tt, 5k turbine and 2k PIC jet and see what they say. Might be time for another Ozzie to look at life back at home. 18 years is a long time to be gone.

Square Bear
15th Nov 2008, 23:04
Kangaroo Court

Looks like you will have to apply for an F.O's slot with those hours, as you don't have the OZJET Command minimums.


Minimum In-Command medium or Heavy Jet time of 3,000 hours

feenix
15th Nov 2008, 23:10
What is it that Ozjet do that requires all these pilots. They seem to spend more time on the ground than in the air and reading of some of the previous posts indicates they are selling aircraft ,not buying. The 200 certainly was a lovely airplane to fly but like the 727 unfortunately its days are over.

sayallafter
16th Nov 2008, 00:15
Must not be too long before Oz's Norfolk Island contract finishes.

Would have thought that was a large part of their flying.

feenix
16th Nov 2008, 02:58
I think their norfolk ops finish early next year. I imagine Bali isn't doing too well either with the shootings of the bombers scaring off traffic

down3gr33ns
16th Nov 2008, 22:30
I had just landed at MEL on Saturday and an all white, no titling, B737-300, reg VH-NLK arrived around 1800 local time and went to the John Holland hangar. Have Ozjet finally got the -300 they were crowing about?

feenix
16th Nov 2008, 23:34
Down and 3G's I think you might find that a/c belongs to Our Airline and not Ozjet. Maybe someone else can shed some light

Skystar320
17th Nov 2008, 00:15
I had just landed at MEL on Saturday and an all white, no titling, B737-300, reg VH-NLK arrived around 1800 local time and went to the John Holland hangar. Have Ozjet finally got the -300 they were crowing about?

The -300's were to operate the Tasman routes. I believe Our Airline was getting another 737-300, this could be it.

Although the registration VH-NLK means something? Could they have picked up the Norfolk contract? This is speculation on my side because of the rego

feenix
17th Nov 2008, 02:16
Surely someone from Ozjet must know what's going on

witwiw
17th Nov 2008, 03:48
C'mon feenix, no-one at Ozjet knows what's going on there these days.

Tried a search on the CASA a/c register, -NLK draws a blank. Intriguing.

tourismman
17th Nov 2008, 06:44
Yes VH-NLK will operate the norfolk services and will be painted in Norfolk Air colours.Our Airline apparently will do all Norfolk routes soon mayby as early as late January however i believe Ozjet may also continue operating those services as well in their own right ?.

tourismman
18th Nov 2008, 01:01
Yes VH-NLK is 2nd 733 for Our Airline.

727ace
18th Nov 2008, 01:55
hear that another 733 will be on its way to Our Airline to be here in the new year,so they will now have a total of 3. looks like getting back to those days of AirNauru with a descent fleet!!! will we see a return of Chief Nobob!!!! C2-RN7:eek:

Flying Monk
18th Nov 2008, 06:43
Does anyone know if OA are recruiting Tech Crew if - as it seems - they are increasing their fleet of 737-300 aircraft?

feenix
18th Nov 2008, 07:32
I think they have just hired more crew. They usually put on fo's then promote from within their ranks. If 727ace is correct they should need more soon and may even need direct entry captains. Not bad for a bunch who ithinkso and ohers were righting off not long ago

Trojan01
19th Nov 2008, 08:09
Why are all the H/L aircraft parked? It it the RAAFs new aircraft that are making them redundant?

Flying Monk
19th Nov 2008, 08:36
Trojan01

Appeciate if you could elaborate on the role of the 'RAAF's new aircraft' and the parking of H/L aircraft please.

Trojan01
20th Nov 2008, 21:06
Dont know reaaly but thought it might be the Raaf getting the c17 and something to do with this

"..............The Philippine Government approved the creation of a new civil aviation authority (CAA) as part of an effort to improve the country´s aviation safety standards. The action came as a result of the FAA´s safety assessment programme (IASA) downgrading the Philippines from category one to the less safe category two...........".

Trojan01
29th Nov 2008, 07:18
Heard on the grapevine that things are unravelling rapidly......

11percent
29th Nov 2008, 07:28
care to expand?

witwiw
29th Nov 2008, 12:18
care to expand?

Is exactly what OJ/HL wanted - expansion.

But what have they got -contraction. And accelerating by the day.

Poor old Paul Stoddart must be SO sad that his original operation is about to fold.

Then again he might be SO glad he sold it to a wannabe who was happy to part with his money for something that wasn't worth much at the time.

Bluff and bluster can only go so far, and that is about to be realised by Mr Aggresive.

SeldomFixit
30th Nov 2008, 03:45
What is the Australian history and " form " of the HJ/OJ Principals ?

Mach E Avelli
30th Nov 2008, 21:59
Do a Google search into DC3 amphibians and Belgian-Russian-African connections.

Trojan01
30th Nov 2008, 23:32
wonder why they are getting such special treatment by Casa, HL aircraft rego in philippines, no Aus AOC etc

Trojan01
1st Dec 2008, 20:40
Very interesting read! So are some of the other google searches. Is it the same company UK / Sierra Leone / Australia? can see why they moved from Sierra Leone but why are the aircraft in Philippine regos if it is now an Australian airline?