Flying N-Reg a/c with UK CAA licence?

[Pretzel]

I have looked through the forum but unable to find an answer to my question.

Can a UK CAA frozen ATPL holder fly an N-Reg Aircraft outside the states? If so what are the requirements? does flying the aircraft privately or commercially make a difference?

Any help would be most appreciated!:)

[saffron]

Unless you can get a validation from the FAA (words like snowflake & hell come to mind) you will need to get an FAA CPL & depending on the type a P2 rating.The CPL is easy & relatively cheap to get but don't go there unless there is plenty of work!

[NZ X man]

I believe that an FAA license is required to fly any N regestered aircraft from a legal standpoint. Does not matter where the aircraft is flying or located.

Cheers

[HS125]

I presume from the content of the question your talking about in the UK FIR.
Here the answer is YES under DAY VFR only.

To fly outside the UK FIR you will need written permission for each flight from the state controlling each and every other FIR the aircraft will be operating in... again limited to day VFR.

Basically then the answer is No. :ugh:

[BizJetJock]

FAR 61.3:
"However, when the aircraft is operated within a foreign country, a current pilot license issued by the country in which the aircraft is operated may be used;"
As far as the FAA are concerned, a JAA licence covers anywhere in JAA land.
I'd be rich if I had a pound for every time that's been asked on here.....:ugh:

[CirrusF]

You can fly a private N-reg with JAR licence in France, VFR or IFR makes no difference.

[Pretzel]

Thanks BizJetJock! very helpful! :O

[NZ X man]

I stand corrected. Humbly:}

[Pace]

FAR 61.3:
"However, when the aircraft is operated within a foreign country, a current pilot license issued by the country in which the aircraft is operated may be used;"
As far as the FAA are concerned, a JAA licence covers anywhere in JAA land.
I'd be rich if I had a pound for every time that's been asked on here.....

Are you saying that I can use a JAA qualified pilot with a C500 type on his licence as a first officer with me on a N reg citation operated in Europe?

When the said pilot made enquiries he was told it was not legal.

What would happen if he was NOT C500 rated in Europe. In the USA he can get an SIC onto an FAA licence but not onto a JAA one.

Pace

[farmer jo]

I asked the New York FSDO followind question - " I am current on BD700 (Global Express) on my JAA ATP licence, I have valid FAA ATP but not an FAA check on the BD700 - Can I ferry an American Registered aircraft to Europe " This was the reply !!

[I]You can use your FAA ATP (with the BD-700 type rating) to fly an airplane in a private operation such as an aircraft ferry. However, you will need a current FAA Class One Medical to be able to use the FAA ATP. You will also need to be FAA current to fly the BD-700 as pilot in command (proficiency check, IR competency check).

If you wish to use your FAA CPL validation it would have to updated and
re-issued at a FAA office in the US. Ratings for an IR (written test) and
a BD-700 (paper transfer) would have to be added to the FAA CPL. Please
note that, under current FAA rules, the IR would be added at the CPL level
but the BD-700 would be added at the PPL level. You would also need to be
current to fly the BD-700 on your JAR license. The referenced UK license
number would have to be changed to that of your current JAA license.
Before these items could be done you would have to request (and receive) a
Letter of Verification of Foreign License. The letter confirms the details
of your JAA license and the inquiry can take up to 60 days to complete.Regrads,

Mary Barker
Aviation Safety Inspector
NY IFO


So there you go - simple !!

[coffeelovesmilk]

Last month I tried to get the same information from FSDO. My company wanted me to copilot an N-registered BBJ commercially in Europe – the question was if I could do this without an FAA license but with a JAA CPL IR frozen ATP.
Their reply kind of went like this:
Private operation of the jet would not be a problem. I could have my JAA PPL verified by the FAA FSDO and then fly privately.
Commercial operation is a different thing. In order to legally fly an N-registered aircraft, you need to have at least a FAA CPL. But, if you don’t want to do the FAA/IR, there is another thing you could do:
You do the FAA CPL and than add your JAA/CAA IR to the FAA CPL, all you would need to do is a Foreign Pilot Instrument Verification (paper) Test or something like that, which would give you the right to fly IFR with N-registered aircraft, based on your "foreign" CAA license.
However, the IR would then be restricted to your JAA/CAA license, which means you would have to keep both the FAA CPL and your JAA/CAA license current in order to be legal.
I hope this helps.
Cheers

[hum]

You may only fly a N reg in the country that issued the JAA license. You are not permitted to fly throughout the entire JAA member states.
This was re-affirmed a number of years ago by FAA Legal Counsel.

and here:

http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Agusta%20A109A%20II,%20N2NR%2011-11.pdf