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skylarker
12th Oct 2008, 20:09
Sad news today of an s/o found dead in the LAX crew hotel.

Condolences to his family and friends.

RIP

Keg
12th Oct 2008, 20:41
Your intentions were probably honourable but please keep in mind that many of us have friends in town and like me may be quite startled by such news and not sure of whom you speak. I've just spent the last 30 minutes trying to track down a S/O mate trying to make sure he was OK. He is but my point is that until the details have been released publicly by family/friends/company then such posts as yours can cause quite a lot of distress.

Ron & Edna Johns
12th Oct 2008, 21:52
Keg, mate, you really need to stop being so precious. This is no different to hearing the news through the TV, radio or hearing the scuttlebutt on the flight deck or in a crew room. No name was mentioned, only that this has happened. I'm assuming it is true. Yep, death is sad and distressing, and sad and distressing news spreads rapidly in this interconnected world. That's reality. If it actually encourages people to touch base with friends, say "Hi, was thinking of you, are you ok?", well maybe that's a small positive to come out of a tragedy?

Provided family/close friends don't learn of someone's death via PPrune I really don't see the problem in mentioning this here. If you do see a problem, well you'd better start banning people talking about it at sign-on, or at FL370, Fatties, etc.

This is one of the saddest things I can think of - dying in a slip port hotel. I'll be thinking about this all today....

Keg
12th Oct 2008, 22:19
R&EJ, we'll have to agree to disagree. Until there has been some sort of public announcement from either the company or the family- and the fact that people are not using names and only posting initials indicate that it is not 'public' knowledge yet- then I reckon it's not appropriate to be either startling others due to lack of information or putting initials into the public domain.

I'm more comfortable than most with the issue of death and I don't shy away from it as a part of life. I just reckon it needs to be dealt with sensitively than what it has been thus far on this thread.

Jet_A_Knight
12th Oct 2008, 22:27
I'm with Keg. I've got a SO mate that I got worried about too.

No need to choke on my coffee first thing in the morning....

Kangaroo Court
12th Oct 2008, 22:28
Nah, I'm with Keg on this one. That's totally low. We don't need rampant speculation as to cause of death or circumstances.

Moderators, please do the right thing and can this whole thread.

Tidbinbilla
13th Oct 2008, 02:02
I have reinstated this thread as details of the person concerned have been publicly released. Please think carefully before hitting the submit button.

TID

Lefthanded_Rock_Thrower
13th Oct 2008, 02:20
I'm with Ron, its relevant news, proves how well the pprune bush telegraph works.

Condolences to the family.

Kangaroo Court, what are you talking about, "Rampant Speculation".

Learning to cope with death is a part of life, don't be so precious.

Agree'd, this is one of the saddest things I can think of - dying in a slip port hotel. I'll also be thinking about this all today....

av8trflying
13th Oct 2008, 02:33
I put this up before but it got wiped.

Playing devils advocate.

What is the difference between putting this up or putting up a plane crash, say "5 minutes ago a cessna 206 crashed in Townsville". This type of post goes up all of the time.

You would then get people worried because they know someone who flies a 206 in Townsville.

It just seems to be hipocritical to me.

By the way, condolences to family and friends involved.

Veruka Salt
13th Oct 2008, 02:35
This is an absolute tragedy .... the S/O in question was a great bloke, superb operator and will be sorely missed.

Have only just heard the news myself, am struggling with it a bit.

Keg
13th Oct 2008, 02:47
Av8tr, there probably is no difference but then again I reckon the posting of those types of news items aren't great either.

That said, a possible subtle difference is that often the news of the 206 prang has also been concurrently reported by the media and thus is already in the public domain. This information about the QF S/O was not in the public domain and hadn't been confirmed by any reputable source. In short, we expect journo's to be bottom feeding scum who leap at any unfortunate event that occurs. I'm not sure that we can use that to justify that kind of behaviour in ourselves.

My condolences, thoughts and prayers to the S/O's family and friends. My thoughts and prayers also go out to the S/O's crew- particularly the other S/O who knew him quite well.

Dagger
13th Oct 2008, 03:45
What a horrible tragedy. A true gentleman and a great guy. My heart goes out to his family.

ding duck
13th Oct 2008, 06:32
Have to agree with keg on this one.
A mate passed away recently in a chopper crash, was posted on pprune very shortly afterwards by someone flying thru the area and well before anything had been confirmed. friends of the deceased pilot saw it on pprune, worked out who it was from details given and then proceeded to call the wife, who had not been notified by police or the company. please be very very careful what you write and think about it before you hit submit, as there are proper channels to go thru to notify next of kin without someone calling to offer their condolences before that occurs. imagine if you or your loved ones were in that position. my two cents worth.
My condolences to the family of the s/o
ding

flyhigh744
13th Oct 2008, 08:01
His intentions nevertheless, were most likely honourable and I'm sure that he did not mean to cause any harm.

OCTA
13th Oct 2008, 08:47
Could we get the initials of the person please for those of us with friends over in LAX.

Little_Red_Hat
13th Oct 2008, 09:13
I too know a few S/Os, condolences to the family and friends. Really hope it is not any of my friends, but a sad thing for anyone... :(

landof4x
13th Oct 2008, 09:30
Initials please anyone - concerned for several friends.

BUSDRIVER200
13th Oct 2008, 12:02
M M you will be sorely missed mate. RIP

Silent T
13th Oct 2008, 20:49
Was he an ex military guy at all?

eaglerock
14th Oct 2008, 01:37
No he wasn't

justdrinkit!
14th Oct 2008, 12:04
He was ex GA. Couldn't get a better bloke... He was one of the good guys always looked out for his mates!! Its an absolute tragedy and we are all still in shock and cant believe it....One of the most reliable genuine guys I have known...miss you buddy...hope your at peace now mate...

laut
14th Oct 2008, 12:24
If he was your "Friend" like so many of you claim you're worried about you would have a phone number to call, text or email him. More like someone you met through someone else who now flys with QF. These are not "mates" but rather acquaintances Most of you are just wanting to know the story so you can gossip some more, just like the bottom feeding scum that Keg talks about. I had many mates in LAX at the time and I will tell you the last place I would go to find out details is PPRUNE. When someone alerted me to this thread I was truly disgusted. As for being "precious", if that is what you get called for being respectful these days you can call me precious till the cows come home.
Grow up people and stop with "Condolences to friends and family" when all most of you care about is the personal details of a death.

Binoculars
14th Oct 2008, 13:34
His intentions nevertheless, were most likely honourable and I'm sure that he did not mean to cause any harm.

And precisely what were those intentions? To prove he was the first with the latest?

Sprite
14th Oct 2008, 13:39
Stop it you pr!cks, a good man has died here, leave it alone, have some respect.

Blueyonda
14th Oct 2008, 13:44
Life is precious and taken for granted. Appreciate your friends while you can regardless of the circumstances. For those of you brave enough, let them know it.

Binoculars
14th Oct 2008, 13:46
Sprite, I couldn't agree more, and it's only when I see these attention-seeking thread starters that scream "I'm the first to post it" that my hackles go up. Condolences to the family? Bull****, they don't even know them.

The whole forum would be better off without these premature threads. That's who should be showing some respect.

Spikey21
14th Oct 2008, 13:54
I will second Sprite.

Much Ado
14th Oct 2008, 14:19
Going to agree with laut and Binos.

Those who really knew the young man concerned don't need this thread to grieve and the rest of you are not grieving but something more akin to watching the Jerry Springer show...its just the same ghoulish curiosity that tabloid journalism attracts.